You asked me...“which schools offer poker classes? I’ve never heard of such a thing”.
I countered and corrected with the fact I had not made that claim and wondered why you were framing the question as if I had? What I had noted was various universities were studying poker from differing perspectives and provided links.
I didn't see it
You then ended with “or perhaps you wouldn’t actually have that experience...hmm)
Odd.
It's really not odd at all. I didn't think I'd need to spell it out for someone as intelligent and educated as yourself... but I guess I was wrong
Since I joined Cards Chat two years ago I have been completely open about how I came to poker. Which was late from a non-gambling background and after a period of only ever watching the EPT. I then had to learn on line with play chips (and I have yet to play a single live hand). With that underway I then joined Cards Chat and started to play several of the free rolls offered.
If I have never been embarrassed to offer my poker backstory then I would have thought it obvious I'd be fairly indifferent to snark concerning 'my game'. But funnily enough this is the second time I have been condescended to by a senior member. However, after 3K posts, I do not think I have once seriously discussed my game let alone bigged myself up as a player or authority.
I did not travel some manly-men route to get here and frankly hope I never will.
You don't seem to understand what I'm trying to convey re: play chip poker is not 'poker'. Of course it's the game of poker with the same basic rules but when money is not staked, the game is MUCH different..... so much so that in the playchip game you really MISS out on soooooo much of the game. It has nothing to do with bravado (or chest pumping manly-man stuff)... SIGH...
I had zero knowledge of your poker background &/or how you got to Cardschat. The snark remarks was geared towards "how would you know... you've never actually played 'real poker' "
Have you played chess? How about checkers?
Real poker vs. play chips is akin to chess vs. checkers.
One doesn't need to wager much to see how the game changes. 2nl plays much different than 25nl (as far as the regulars who play.... the fish play poorly no matter what level although they do tend to have much different tendencies). Some suggest that the highest stakes of play chip poker is much like 2c/5c poker. How could one be bothered to find this out? (plus I HIGHLY doubt it even comes close to 5nl... even 5nl has loads of regulars in it from Ukraine & Russia)
Perhaps to discover what I'm trying to convey you could give it a go? I'm certain you'd be able to express it much more eloquently than what I'm attempting to do (kinda like I communicate like checkers... where you communicate like 'chess').
fwiw Chess isn't checkers & it never will be. It's a game. It's played on the same board! There's Kings in both.
I learned to play poker at the age of 4 or 5. I played often. My mother loved the game.
By the time I was 10yrs. old, I played regularly with a group of guys. Sometimes I would arrive home late for dinner which would result in getting sent to my room for the night with no dinner But I didn't care because up in my room I'd be pulling out a roll of bills and counting them out on my bed (I was never late on days I'd lost $'s as I felt obligated to stay & continue to play if I was up a significant sum). Some nights it was hundreds of dollars. (48 yrs. ago where $350 would equate to $2,000 in buying power in 2021). There were many times I went without dinner as I would play regularly.
By grade 8 & 9 we'd play at one of our friends' home whose his father frequented Las Vegas regularly. They had a room set up in their house for poker & a craps table... their garage was much like a pawn shop
. I played there often but it was a tough game & I'd typically be losing. I also played in a few other games at some local pool halls & a couple years later at some after hours nightclubs downtown in Toronto.
I took a few years away from poker but picked it up again in my early-mid-20's, playing in games for large sums (playing $1,000 or more a hand wasn't uncommon). One evening I lost a particularly large sum of money & decided not to play again & chose not to for 20yrs.
The poker boom was happening... it was televised regularly where I resided, with
fulltiltpoker,
partypoker and AbsolutePoker running tv ads. constantly. I watched 'PokerAfterDark' religiously.
My partner began playing some games on Pogo with her mother. She wanted me to join them. I said I'd give it a go on her account. I saw 'poker' and told her to get that one running for me. She thought it was a stupid game "why would anyone ever play that?" Within a few hours I'd run her tokens up to amounts far beyond what she'd won in weeks while playing in other games. Two weeks later I was opening a 'Moneybookers' account to to facilitate depositing & withdrawing $$'s to Fulltilt &
pokerstars. Between the 2 sites I deposited $325, setting this amount as my one time deposit in which to play games with. I set myself a limit of max. $3 sng/MTT & 25nl cashgame. The first game I played on Fulltilt was a $1 MTT. I placed 2nd of ~1,000 entrants & won $114.00 Within 6mos. I was playing at 25 different sites... 6mos. later she was playing $500 sng's on Fulltilt but I rarely played anything over $100 online unless I'd satty'd into it. What I enjoyed was the challenge of the game. Chasing the money wasn't the draw for me.... even though building bankrolls was what kept score for me. I discovered many private games on offer (& there were MANY... sometimes on a weekend there'd be upwards of 30-40 mtt's per day, $2 to $10 buyins with from $25 to $1,000+ added to the prize pools). Aside from the great value they offered you also got to play against much of the same competitors (typically ~50 to 100 entrants). This is when I discovered Cardschat (they held a lot of $ buyin tourneys with $$'s added to the prizepool on a number of different sites). I hadn't gotten 'addicted' to the money/
gambling (
ie. Fred Flinstone "Bet Bet BET!!!") but I did get addicted to the game of poker (I'm certain I read over 50
poker books in 2008 alone).
Play chip poker is not like 'real' poker as you lose out on so much of the game although clearly I don't know how to describe it clearly.
Why don't you give it a try & find out? Perhaps it's because you don't trust
online poker??(if I'm not mistaken I believe you're of the belief that the rng is rigged in some manner & if that's actually the case than I can see why you would never consider to play 'poker'. That is another topic that I suck at explaining and only wish I could quote some other members who have written some fantastic stuff here on CC in the past (ie. dmorris68))
fwiw, I didn't know that DS3 was a female. It never entered my mind. I'm guessing you assumed otherwise...