**Unofficial Official 2011 PLO Cash Game Thread**

[cjatud2012]

Maybe this is bad but I'd float here and bet the turn if checked to (I don't need to have TPTK to do this). We won't be bet into too often imo, just because players don't double barrel a lot and this board almost never connects with him.

 

[vanquish]

im back baby baby

 

[cjatud2012]

Pretty sure the hand is standard but would like a quick check on it (would post in HA but I don't think there's that much to analyze). I wonder if a 3-bet pre is possible but am not sure.

full tilt poker $0.02/$0.05 Pot Limit Omaha High
Hand Converter provided by Line Checker

SB: $0.84
BB: $5.00
UTG: $5.17
HJ: $5.41
Hero: $5.00
BTN: $8.49

Preflop: ($0.07)
Hero has 8:spade: T:diamond: A:club: 9:club:
UTG raises to $0.11, HJ folds, Hero calls $0.11, BTN folds, SB calls $0.09, BB raises to $0.50, UTG calls $0.39, Hero calls $0.39, SB calls $0.39

Flop: ($2.00) A:spade: 7:club: 6:club:
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $2.00, SB calls $0.34, BB raises to $4.50, UTG folds, Hero calls $2.50

 

[Marginal]

You obviously have to get it in on the flop.

LuckyCHippy, that is way to nitty a fold, you gots teh positions yous needs tos calls at leasts ones flops

 

[Marginal]

Sup bros. I should post more PLO hands right?

 

[LuckyChippy]

Sup bros. I should post more PLO hands right?

Yes, you should.

 

[Marginal]

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $1(BB) IPoker
SB ($48.55)
BB ($280)
UTG ($127)
Hero ($144)
CO ($105)
BTN ($115)

Dealt to Hero 9:diamond: J:heart: K:club: A:spade:

fold, Hero raises to $3.50, fold, fold, SB calls $3, fold

FLOP ($8) Q:club: 6:club: T:diamond:

SB bets $8, Hero calls $8

TURN ($24) Q:club: 6:club: T:diamond: 4:heart:

SB bets $24, Hero calls $24

RIVER ($72) Q:club: 6:club: T:diamond: 4:heart: 3:heart:

SB checks, Hero bets $36, SB folds

Hero shows 9:diamond: J:heart: K:club: A:spade:

Hero wins $69

 

[OzExorcist]

Can you talk us through that one? The river seems like a weird card to represent since it only completes a low runner-runner draw.

Obviously the alternative (giving up on the pot) sucks too but I'm wondering what the thought process is.

 

[cjatud2012]

Gonna try to play 5000-10000 hands of PLO next month, probably at 5PLO. I'll move up if I can get 50bi's for 10PLO (too aggressive?). I'll of course still be playing SNG's, 250-500 of those, and I'll try to stay away from the RushOD's lol.

Have a hand I wanna post, but I'm not on a computer where it saves the HH's to the hard drive, so I have to wait for my request to be processed first.

 

[cjatud2012]

yay https://www.cardschat.com/forum/cash-game-hand-analysis-50/5-plo-6-max-2nd-nut-195078/

 

[Marginal]

Can you talk us through that one? The river seems like a weird card to represent since it only completes a low runner-runner draw.

Obviously the alternative (giving up on the pot) sucks too but I'm wondering what the thought process is.

He only checks back the river with missed draws whether it is straight or not. We can bet here because of that. We dont have to rep the straight hitting the river, by insta check calling both flop and turn we represent both draws and sets etc.

 

[Marginal]

meh, running good

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $2(BB) IPoker
SB ($318)
BB ($197)
UTG ($204)
UTG+1 ($718)
Hero ($267)
BTN ($942)

Dealt to Hero 8:club: T:club: A:club: A:spade:

UTG raises to $7, UTG+1 calls $7, Hero raises to $31, fold, fold, fold, UTG raises to $103, fold, Hero raises to $267 (AI), UTG calls $101 (AI)

FLOP ($419) 7:heart: T:heart: 6:diamond:

TURN ($419) 7:heart: T:heart: 6:diamond: 6:spade:

RIVER ($419) 7:heart: T:heart: 6:diamond: 6:spade: 7:spade:

UTG shows A:diamond: K:club: 7:club: 9:diamond:
(Pre 31%, Flop 34.9%, Turn 12.5%)

Hero shows 8:club: T:club: A:club: A:spade:
(Pre 69%, Flop 65.1%, Turn 87.5%)

UTG wins $416

 

[vanquish]

its crazy that he still had 31% equity preflop even with you dominating one of his suits and he has an A

 

[Marginal]

its crazy that he still had 31% equity preflop even with you dominating one of his suits and he has an A

Tis teh PLOs

 

[xdeucesx]

Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players - View hand 1255785
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter
Hero (BB): $10.00
UTG: $21.55
MP: $2.68
CO: $9.66
BTN: $30.63
SB: $2.55
Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with 4 :heart: 5 :heart: 2 :club: 2 :spade:
1 fold, MP raises to $0.20, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.20, SB calls $0.15, Hero calls $0.10
Flop: ($0.80) A :diamond: J :diamond: 2 :heart: (4 players)
SB bets $0.80, Hero raises to $2, MP folds, BTN folds, SB calls $1.20
Turn: ($4.80) 4 :diamond: (2 players)
SB bets $0.35 all in, Hero calls $0.35
River: ($5.50) Q :heart: (2 players - 1 is all in)



Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players - View hand 1255787
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter
CO: $1.66
BTN: $12.55
SB: $3.30
Hero (BB): $10.15
UTG: $9.90
MP: $16.39
Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with 7 :heart: K :spade: 6 :club: K :diamond:
1 fold, MP raises to $0.30, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.90, MP calls $0.60
Flop: ($1.85) K :heart: T :spade: 8 :spade: (2 players)
Hero bets $1.10, MP calls $1.10
Turn: ($4.05) J :diamond: (2 players)
Hero bets $4.05, MP raises to $14.39 all in, Hero calls $4.10 all in
River: ($20.35) Q :spade: (2 players - 2 are all in)



I obviously dont know what im doing here....but here it goes

hand 1: Not sure if I should even call preflop, but figured the odds were too juicy if I could flop a set, flopped it and then not sure if I did the correct move...

hand 2: I'm guessing it was a questionable turn call? I didnt want to give up top set, but I have flush redraw and only a bottom straight. I'm sure I messed up somewhere
EDUCATE ME MARGINAL

 

[cjatud2012]

In my uneducated opinion, hand 1 is a fold pre-flop, you're never happy flopping bottom set, and even if you flop a wheel, you'll either get no action or you'll get freerolled (actually you could potentially have some flush outs).

Hand 2 is not a hand I would 3-bet pre, but I'm not sure if that's just my style of because it's bad (obv I think it's bad, that's why I don't do it ). Also I bet pot on the flop, that's a really drawy flop. When that jack hits, it seems weak but we should probably check fold, the jack just fills so many draws. He could have a naked flush draw (which would be pretty awful imo) but even if he has that, I don't picture him potting the turn if we check to him. After he shoved we're getting ~2.2:1 on a call, and assuming he has a straight we have 10 outs, which is not even going to get us 3:1, so we fold.

 

[Marginal]

Hand 1, we cant fold for 10c but we should never ever raise the flop because even though we have a set, there are probably only 10 cards that look good to our hand, the board pairing is not a good situation either.

Hand 2, I like the 3 bet but Im a fan of pot 3 bets. Bet more on the flop and c/c the turn and reassess on the river. With top set, we have enough equity to try and see a river and if we miss the boat, we can fold, if we hit we get it in 100% of the time.

 

[xdeucesx]

hand 1 i was hoping to just iso SB since he only had 1.55 behind, so money was in on turn pretty much. He ended up flipping Kxs, but that's a standard spot (i think)?

2- Looking back, what hands can I actually beat on turn? Set of JJ, 1010, 88 and AxS...this doesnt seem to make up too much of villains range here though, or atleast enough to make it a profitable All-in call on turn. ( Don't have my stove)

 

[OzExorcist]

Just finished my first 10K hands of $5PLO and I'm break even (before rakeback). Better than I expected / not as good as I'd hoped FTW.

 

[cjatud2012]

Should we just shove here or is flatting okay (on both flop and turn) to keep the third opponent in?

Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha High
Hand Converter provided by Line Checker

SB: $21.05
BB: $13.32
UTG: $3.70
HJ: $3.90
CO: $7.00
Hero: $10.00

Preflop: ($0.15)
Hero has 8:spade: 7:spade: 9:diamond: 9:heart:
UTG raises to $0.35, HJ calls $0.35, CO calls $0.35, Hero calls $0.35, SB calls $0.30, BB folds

Flop: ($1.85) T:diamond: 9:spade: 6:heart:
SB checks, UTG checks, HJ bets $1.60, CO folds, Hero calls $1.60, SB calls $1.60, UTG folds

Turn: ($6.65) 4:club:
SB checks, HJ bets $1.95, Hero ???

 

[Marginal]

You could min raise here!!!

 

[cjatud2012]

The flop or the turn?

Also what if we had TT87 instead of 9987?

 

[Marginal]

Actually Im not min raising, a lot of bad rivers. Just try to get a ton in right now on the turn.

 

[cjatud2012]

Ah okay, so then are you fine with flatting the flop?

 

[Marginal]

yeah, if the pot was smaller, i raise but the size is pretty decent where you dont have to raise to get it in.