**Unofficial Official 2011 PLO Cash Game Thread**

[Marginal]

https://www.cardschat.com/forum/learning-poker-57/beginning-plo-some-very-basic-ideas-190541/


Bumping this thread as well, I feel it has a better chance at the top of the cash game forum than it does in the middle lower end of the first page.

 

[vanquish]

see that sexy booty go bompbompbomp

 

[Colbefc]

I play a lot of PLO and although I have improved a lot
since I start but still find, post flop, then unless I have
the nuts I find it hard to where I am and I too play too
tight for my own good

whenever I flop top 2 pair I am always worried that
someone has flopped trips so I just bet or call although
I know this isnt the right thing to do I find PLO a hard
game to read, I am getting better but do play way too
tight

I read book and articles that always said raise and reraise
with AA pre flop and I used to do that, but when the flop
commes KKJ for example I dont know where the hell I am,
I either C bet and get called or re raised, or just call and
allow someone to hit

wow PLO is so complicated but I love it, I must be a
masachist



ps this is a great idea for a thread, thanks

 

[cjatud2012]

Overpair with nut flush draw and gutshot to the wheel good enough to get it in here? Sorry if it's an obvious answer lol.

Full Tilt - $0.10 PL Hi RUSH (6 max) - Omaha - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: $21.61
BB: $10.22
UTG: $4.25
MP: $13.31
Hero (CO): $19.82
BTN: $6.79

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has 2♣ A♦ Q♦ A♣

UTG calls $0.10, MP calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.55, fold, fold, BB calls $0.45, UTG calls $0.45, MP calls $0.45

Flop: ($2.25, 4 players) J♦ 3♥ 4♦
BB checks, UTG checks, MP bets $1.60, Hero ???

A tricky river decision here (also how gross is my bet sizing?):

Full Tilt - $0.10 PL Hi RUSH (6 max) - Omaha - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

UTG: $6.98
Hero (MP): $22.52
CO: $21.35
BTN: $1.80
SB: $16.89
BB: $14.59

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has 2♣ A♠ Q♠ A♣

fold, Hero raises to $0.35, CO calls $0.35, fold, fold, fold

Flop: ($0.85, 2 players) A♦ J♥ T♦
Hero bets $0.85, CO calls $0.85

Turn: ($2.55, 2 players) K♠
Hero bets $2.55, CO calls $2.55

River: ($7.65, 2 players) 8♦
Hero checks, CO bets $7.65, Hero ???

Sorry for another wall of text itt

 

[Marginal]

First hand, it is an easy raise on the flop. Against a set you have 42% equity and most times he shows up with a lot worse there. If he has 2 pair, we have 58% so its a get it in situation for me.

Second hand is a fold forme. I have no problem with how it was played but on the river villains virtually never bet anything other than a flush. I mean, if he has a straight he is either raising the flop or turn, most people also arent going to turn sets/2 pair hands into bluffs here, they would check those back on the river. I do not think you beat anything here.

 

[vanquish]

marginal's got it. i have no problems with calling the flop if it's going to entice the others to call though.



the others.

 

[SwiftDesire]

Sorry for the crappy quality hand history (It's from RedKings poker).

Seat 1: kill-bill86 ($15.64 in chips)
Seat 3: spavacation ($9.41 in chips)
Seat 5: srakso321 ($11.30 in chips)
Seat 6: SwiftDesire ($12.92 in chips)
Seat 9: OPOP123 ($13.85 in chips)

ANTES/BLINDS
kill-bill86 posts small blind ($0.10), spavacation posts big blind ($0.10),

SwiftDesire [ 5D,KH,5C,KC ]

PRE-FLOP
srakso321 folds, SwiftDesire raises to $0.40, OPOP123 raises to $0.90, kill-bill86 calls $0.90, spavacation folds, SwiftDesire calls $0.90.

FLOP [board cards: AH,5H,AD ]
kill-bill86 bets $1.80, SwiftDesire ??

 

[Marginal]

Ok the thing about this hand is that

1) if we raise and he has A and we get it in, we are still essentially flipping

2) If we call, there is no good turn/river card

I probably take the nit approach and call the flop and re evaluate on turn and river. You could probably call 2 streets but definitely not 3.

 

[cjatud2012]

Okay cool thanks guys, I did raise the first and fold the second. Word.

Sorry for the crappy quality hand history (It's from RedKings poker).

Seat 1: kill-bill86 ($15.64 in chips)
Seat 3: spavacation ($9.41 in chips)
Seat 5: srakso321 ($11.30 in chips)
Seat 6: SwiftDesire ($12.92 in chips)
Seat 9: OPOP123 ($13.85 in chips)

ANTES/BLINDS
kill-bill86 posts small blind ($0.10), spavacation posts big blind ($0.10),

SwiftDesire [ 5D,KH,5C,KC ]

PRE-FLOP
srakso321 folds, SwiftDesire raises to $0.40, OPOP123 raises to $0.90, kill-bill86 calls $0.90, spavacation folds, SwiftDesire calls $0.90.

FLOP [board cards: AH,5H,AD ]
kill-bill86 bets $1.80, SwiftDesire ??

Am I just really nitty/stupid or is the pre-flop call kinda loose facing a 3-bet, out of position, with two still left to act behind us?

 

[Marginal]

Nah, it is perfectly fine and in some cases can even be a 4 bet.. Oh and we were last to act so we know we arent getting 4 bet.

 

[cjatud2012]

oh, for some reason I thought we were kill-bill, my bad. Okay, now I can agree with the call.

 

[SwiftDesire]

Appreciate the responses,

My first thought was that there's no point calling this flop because any card on the turn will put me in a bad spot.

So guys what would do in such a situation?

Get it in on the flop? He prolly has AKxx, AQxx or maybe AJxx.
Call every streets? Though chances of him improving are high.
Fold on the flop? -Since it essentially a coinflip.
Shove turn? - He's gonna bet any turn with trips, right?

 

[GrimlyGrim]

Not completely a coin flip... Isn't it more like 60 40? And if he does happen to have a K it is like 2 to 1 or something. Although I guess we are drawing dead to 2 hands. Personally I just like to throw money around.

 

[ChuckTs]

:aetsch::aetsch::aetsch:

Pretty solid so far, and good timing too, I need as much help with this silly game as I can get.

 

[kleitches]

OMG I'm gonna download it

 

[kleitches]

K I just downloaded it but it's only 81 pages???

Chuck, can you confirm this?

 

[cjatud2012]

Hah my brother has that same keyboard!

 

[ChuckTs]

uh no, it's like 170+ pages, at least in physical form.

I don't suggest publicly posting that you're going to download it either!

 

[Marginal]

Chuck we dont want to see the book. We want to see you.

 

[vanquish]

i wanna see pix of chuck holding a lead pipe in one hand and his weener in the other

 

[jjbish]

Nova attempt update.
I'm no where near on pace, but knew I wouldn't be for now. I just cant pass up the $ of playing my normal tables and sites. But I've already earned more vpp's than all last year and the milestone bonuses also, obv.

Still 9-12 tabling when playing stars and playing at least 1/2+ $.25 table now, so winrate> being on pace imo. I did transfer a small amount and binked a a few decent small tourny scores. So rolled for 25 on site now, but still getting used to it. I've found I can AVG 200vpp's with minimal time invested. So I just need to devote more time.

So the attempt will go on. If I can progress as planned I'll be more than able to make up the vpp's I'm behind. I think tablenija is a must to get. It will just make things easier. And still going to look for a table mod, but am satisfied with the theme I'm using for now.

Anyone mass table using cascade vs tiling? I'm used to the tiling, but think cascade may eventually be a better choice. Any thoughts?

 

[Marginal]

This is me motivating people to play PLO

YouTube - Dev - Booty Bounce

 

[brank]

OK marg, I got one for ya.

I was playing some mixed games and PLO is totally my worst game.

CO is a maniac basically just trying to give me money. SB I dont have much history with. Is this OK 4 handed?

Obvs once I 4 bet I cant fold. I have a feeling its fine but, ya know, Im a newb at PLO.

full tilt poker $0.01/$0.02 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 4 players - View hand 1135152
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter


CO: $3.04
Hero (BTN): $2.11
SB: $3.65
BB: $1.76


Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BTN with K :heart: 9 :club: J :club: K :diamond:
CO calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.09, SB raises to $0.31, 1 fold, CO calls $0.29, Hero raises to $1.26, SB raises to $3.65 all in, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.85 all in

 

[Marginal]

No it is not exactly fine because CO is not the one raising you. It is a much better situation to call the 3 bet in position and play the flop. If he has AAxx which is the only thing that gets it in here, you are really badly crushed without much else in terms of draws.

 

[brank]

Hmm. Interesting, even 4 handed?.

So just call the 3 bet and play 3 way post flop. What kind of flops do I wanna see here?