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I like how I look. I'm proud.

lmao, I guess I still have a problem with reading below the line because it was not until I quoted you that I noticed the below part, lol



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But really, Im crying inside

I cannot even put what I was going to now, that whole line jedi mind trick thing just threw me, lol
 
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Well... I have been playing a lot better PLO, but I think I did a bad thing again lulz.

Full Tilt Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.10 BB (6 handed)

BB ($10)
UTG ($15.07)
MP ($6)
CO ($13.86)
Button ($11.78)
Hero (SB) ($11.53)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9
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, J
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, Q
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, Q
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4 folds, Hero bets $0.30, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.60) K
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, 10
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, 7
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(2 players)
Hero bets $0.30, BB raises to $0.90, Hero raises to $3.30, BB calls $2.40

Turn: ($7.20) 2
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(2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $6.40 (All-In), Hero calls $6.40

River: ($20) 2
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(2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $20 | Rake: $1.33

Results:
Hero had 9
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, J
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, Q
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, Q
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(two pair, Queens and twos).
BB had K
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, 9
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, 6
diamond.gif
, 8
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(two pair, Kings and twos).
Outcome: BB won $18.67
 
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OMG I actually run good for the first time this year!

IPoker Network $2.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players - View hand 1109835
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UTG: $5.21
CO: $4.92
BTN: $5.65
Hero (SB): $2.22
BB: $4.10
Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is SB with 9 :spade: 2 :club: A :heart: A :spade:
UTG calls $0.02, CO calls $0.02, BTN calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.12, 2 folds, CO calls $0.10, BTN calls $0.10
Flop: ($0.40) 2 :spade: 9 :diamond: 8 :spade: (3 players)
Hero bets $0.30, CO raises to $1.30, BTN folds, Hero raises to $2.10, CO calls $0.80
Turn: ($4.60) A :club: (2 players)
River: ($4.60) K :heart: (2 players)
Final Pot: $4.60
CO shows 8 :club: 8 :diamond: 9 :heart: J :heart:
Hero wins $4.30
(Rake: $0.30)


IPoker Network $2.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players - View hand 1109836
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CO: $5.07
BTN: $4.75
SB: $4.28
BB: $2.53
Hero (UTG): $6.58
MP: $5.30
Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is UTG with J :club: 9 :heart: 7 :diamond: Q :diamond:
Hero calls $0.02, 3 folds, SB raises to $0.08, BB calls $0.06, Hero calls $0.06
Flop: ($0.24) T :club: 8 :spade: A :diamond: (3 players)
SB bets $0.18, BB folds, Hero calls $0.18
Turn: ($0.60) 3 :club: (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.40, SB calls $0.40
River: ($1.40) 9 :spade: (2 players)
SB bets $1.40, Hero raises to $5.60, SB calls $2.22 all in
Final Pot: $8.64
SB shows 9 :diamond: 6 :diamond: J :diamond: 9 :club:
Hero wins $8.07
(Rake: $0.57)

I don't know if it was b/c i ran a bit better but i think i played my best PLO yet, thinking well about hands and trying to put villains on ranges a bit better, very happy with myself tonight :D
 
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Well... I have been playing a lot better PLO, but I think I did a bad thing again lulz.

Full Tilt Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.10 BB (6 handed)

BB ($10)
UTG ($15.07)
MP ($6)
CO ($13.86)
Button ($11.78)
Hero (SB) ($11.53)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9
heart.gif
, J
diamond.gif
, Q
club.gif
, Q
heart.gif

4 folds, Hero bets $0.30, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.60) K
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, 10
diamond.gif
, 7
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(2 players)
Hero bets $0.30, BB raises to $0.90, Hero raises to $3.30, BB calls $2.40

Turn: ($7.20) 2
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(2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $6.40 (All-In), Hero calls $6.40

River: ($20) 2
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(2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $20 | Rake: $1.33

Results:
Hero had 9
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, J
diamond.gif
, Q
club.gif
, Q
heart.gif
(two pair, Queens and twos).
BB had K
club.gif
, 9
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, 6
diamond.gif
, 8
diamond.gif
(two pair, Kings and twos).
Outcome: BB won $18.67
Im ok with the flop but the turn being a diamond makes this a slightly unprofitable call on the turn.
OMG I actually run good for the first time this year!
First hand is fine but the second hand is an obviously fold preflop and definitely not a utg limp
 
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Im ok with the flop but the turn being a diamond makes this a slightly unprofitable call on the turn.

First hand is fine but the second hand is an obviously fold preflop and definitely not a utg limp

:eek: didnt noticed i'd limped there, still improvements to be made!

Just been reviewing my marked hands from that session, the hand below, i feel like in this hand i played it well, putting him on a rough range (very rusty with PLO ranges), i have put my thoughts, how do you think i played it?

Guys 57/28 over 53 hands

IPoker Network $2.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players - View hand 1109890
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Hero (SB): $2.70
BB: $9.61
UTG: $10.56
MP: $2.75
CO: $1.57
BTN: $5.64
Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is SB with J :diamond: J :club: 9 :club: 6 :spade:
4 folds, Hero raises to $0.06, BB calls $0.04
Flop: ($0.12) A :diamond: 3 :diamond: 5 :club: (2 players)
Hero bets $0.08, BB calls $0.08

Now that i review i think that the cbet is a bit marginal, wet board against aggro dude that probs aint folding, but it is Ace high and it fits my actions so far i guess.

Turn: ($0.28) A :heart: (2 players)
Hero bets $0.20, BB calls $0.20

I bet out again here because i now put his range firmly full of draws, with some middling pairs. Is the ace enough to weigh his range more towards draws now? I planned on b/f'ing here so thats why the bet was a bit small but should i be betting bigger to charge the draws i think he's on at the risk of losing that extra 2/3bb's when i have to b/f?

River: ($0.68) 6 :heart: (2 players)
Hero bets $0.35

I bet half pot here i guess b/c i dont put him on an ace now, he would have surely raised at some point in the hand, poss straight draw has come in but theres more chance of him drawing at a flush, is it better to c/c a less than psb here rather than b/f?
 
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Im ok with the flop but the turn being a diamond makes this a slightly unprofitable call on the turn.

I almost check folded the hand, but I thought I could still be ahead. Probably doesn't change anything.
 
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Made a decision to try for supernova stars. I guess I'll have to go at it for a month to see if I can follow through though.

The catch.

I only had $47 on stars this past sunday. So I fired up 9 5plo8 tables and started.

I think I am going to move at least $250 over to star's so it's not a zero to hero type thing. But as long as I can keep going and can find a table skin I can look at 9-12 tables for a while every night I think I'll give it an honest shot.

I'll switch back and forth between plo and plo8 as I get bored or what ever has the best games on certain nights.

I think the plo8 is a bit better for it, as I can add full ring tables so the action is a bit more controlled. So I'll add more of those when I hit 25plo8.

I'll post an update end of next week to see if I'm still this committed to it.And will except a verbal beat down if I quit too early in the attempt.
 
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:eek: didnt noticed i'd limped there, still improvements to be made!

Just been reviewing my marked hands from that session, the hand below, i feel like in this hand i played it well, putting him on a rough range (very rusty with PLO ranges), i have put my thoughts, how do you think i played it?

Guys 57/28 over 53 hands

IPoker Network $2.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players - View hand 1109890
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Hero (SB): $2.70
BB: $9.61
UTG: $10.56
MP: $2.75
CO: $1.57
BTN: $5.64
Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is SB with J <font color='red'>♦</font> J <font color='black'>♣</font> 9 <font color='black'>♣</font> 6 <font color='black'>♠</font>
4 folds, Hero raises to $0.06, BB calls $0.04
Flop: ($0.12) A <font color='red'>♦</font> 3 <font color='red'>♦</font> 5 <font color='black'>♣</font> (2 players)
Hero bets $0.08, BB calls $0.08

Now that i review i think that the cbet is a bit marginal, wet board against aggro dude that probs aint folding, but it is Ace high and it fits my actions so far i guess.

Turn: ($0.28) A <font color='red'>♥</font> (2 players)
Hero bets $0.20, BB calls $0.20

I bet out again here because i now put his range firmly full of draws, with some middling pairs. Is the ace enough to weigh his range more towards draws now? I planned on b/f'ing here so thats why the bet was a bit small but should i be betting bigger to charge the draws i think he's on at the risk of losing that extra 2/3bb's when i have to b/f?

River: ($0.68) 6 <font color='red'>♥</font> (2 players)
Hero bets $0.35

I bet half pot here i guess b/c i dont put him on an ace now, he would have surely raised at some point in the hand, poss straight draw has come in but theres more chance of him drawing at a flush, is it better to c/c a less than psb here rather than b/f?
Im not too fond of trying to bluff a 57/28 but the most notable thing for me is that I would not bet the river here and am probably c/f this a lot.

Made a decision to try for supernova stars. I guess I'll have to go at it for a month to see if I can follow through though.

The catch.

I only had $47 on stars this past sunday. So I fired up 9 5plo8 tables and started.

I think I am going to move at least $250 over to star's so it's not a zero to hero type thing. But as long as I can keep going and can find a table skin I can look at 9-12 tables for a while every night I think I'll give it an honest shot.

I'll switch back and forth between plo and plo8 as I get bored or what ever has the best games on certain nights.

I think the plo8 is a bit better for it, as I can add full ring tables so the action is a bit more controlled. So I'll add more of those when I hit 25plo8.

I'll post an update end of next week to see if I'm still this committed to it.And will except a verbal beat down if I quit too early in the attempt.
GL sir keep us updated.
 
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Van, how much PLO are you actually playing these days?
 
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like none, rebuilding my roll after losing a buttload of buy-ins last month
 
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I had this happen 3 times in 5 hands. Except the other two times I had a set and nut flush draw on the flop. (Air balled all of them lulz) This one however I think was played really bad.

Full Tilt Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.10 BB (6 handed)

CO ($9.85)
Button ($6.47)
SB ($22.60)
BB ($10)
UTG ($8.39)
Hero (MP) ($10.72)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 6
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, Q
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, K
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, K
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UTG calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.10, 3 folds, BB checks

Flop: ($0.35) 9
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, 10
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, 4
spade.gif
(3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $0.35, Hero calls $0.35, BB calls $0.35

Turn: ($1.40) K
diamond.gif
(3 players)
BB bets $1.40, 1 fold, Hero raises to $5.60, BB raises to $9.55 (All-In), Hero calls $3.95

River: ($20.50) 8
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(2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $20.50 | Rake: $1.36

Results:
BB had 5
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, Q
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, 7
club.gif
, J
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(straight, King high).
Hero had 6
diamond.gif
, Q
spade.gif
, K
club.gif
, K
spade.gif
(three of a kind, Kings).
Outcome: BB won $19.14
 
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I had this happen 3 times in 5 hands. Except the other two times I had a set and nut flush draw on the flop. (Air balled all of them lulz) This one however I think was played really bad.

Full Tilt Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.10 BB (6 handed)

CO ($9.85)
Button ($6.47)
SB ($22.60)
BB ($10)
UTG ($8.39)
Hero (MP) ($10.72)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 6
diamond.gif
, Q
spade.gif
, K
club.gif
, K
spade.gif

UTG calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.10, 3 folds, BB checks

Flop: ($0.35) 9
spade.gif
, 10
heart.gif
, 4
spade.gif
(3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $0.35, Hero calls $0.35, BB calls $0.35

Turn: ($1.40) K
diamond.gif
(3 players)
BB bets $1.40, 1 fold, Hero raises to $5.60, BB raises to $9.55 (All-In), Hero calls $3.95

River: ($20.50) 8
diamond.gif
(2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $20.50 | Rake: $1.36

Results:
BB had 5
diamond.gif
, Q
club.gif
, 7
club.gif
, J
heart.gif
(straight, King high).
Hero had 6
diamond.gif
, Q
spade.gif
, K
club.gif
, K
spade.gif
(three of a kind, Kings).
Outcome: BB won $19.14

1) Raise Preflop, I have no idea why we are doing anything else

2) Flop call is fine

3) We cannot possibly raise this turn, we never get value from lower sets or worse and we get jammed on by the straight. I prefer the c/c and re-eval on river. Depending on the villain, it can either be a c/c or c/f on the river.
 
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Im bumping this just in case people have forgotten
 
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Not forgotten, just having to focus more on NL for a bit as i have been running gash and dont want some PLO variance to add to the woe!
 
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I came up with a situation I can't find for some reason, so I want to ask about the idea.

So I'm dealt 9875 double suited. I opened UTG in a 6-max. I get raised and then it gets 4-bet. I'm setting there thinking what if they both have AA's or AA's vs KK's. Now, I'm not sure what the logical move in this situation is.
 
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Depending on the player. Im not as happy calling this if the persons making the 3 and 4 bet can do it with JT98 type hands which crush our range. Also if the 3 better has a high percentage of 3 bets and is not going to 5 bet us. Then it becomes closer to a call. At this point, Position matters less because it is guaranteed that someone will shove the flop. You have enough equity if they are both in that AAxx and KKxx range but when they start doing it with JT9x or QJT8 or w/e, we are getting into bad territories.
 
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Slanties have a secret language, ftw

Oh, and debating (again) to take up PLO instead of STT's. Someone talk me out of it please.
 
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Slanties have a secret language, ftw

Oh, and debating (again) to take up PLO instead of STT's. Someone talk me out of it please.

Im only interested in PLO and have no interest in you playing STT's. The more people playing PLO, the more content, the better the PLO content, so you are not going to get anything else out of me.
 
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Well, they both had a 3-bet of 3% or less. Not really sure what that entitles, but it felt pretty likely in my mind. I ended up 5-betting it. (Which I'm not sure if that was a really bad idea or not)

Which leads to another question. If I was that guy who 3-bet with AAxx and got 4-bet and 5-bet, should I start consider folding? Assuming their 3-bet percents are low?
 
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NO. You cant fold with AAxx preflop. Against 2 other players, you have too much equity to waste.

For the 5 bet, I dont like it. I dont really like it. I dont mind putting in 35% of my stack to see a flop, its not as bad in plo as it is in holdem and when you hit, you almost always win and can get away when you miss. The 5 bet to me is spew. Now if they have 3 bets of less than 5% I have to assume they have AAxx and are going to 5 bet a 4 bet which makes it harder to call the 4 bet. Once you know they have a hand that they are willing to stick all in preflop, it makes it a more marginal call.

Im not sure if this is going to make any sense to anybody but me :(
 
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Have always thought about torturing myself with PLO. I bought omaha manager a while ago and just bought tri nguyen's plo book, waiting for it to come in the mail. Have still yet to touch PLO since like my micro days though.

You may see me here in the future!
 
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Have always thought about torturing myself with PLO. I bought omaha manager a while ago and just bought tri nguyen's plo book, waiting for it to come in the mail. Have still yet to touch PLO since like my micro days though.

You may see me here in the future!

haha ur gonna hate it


edit: tri nguyen's book is awesome though
 
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Have always thought about torturing myself with PLO. I bought omaha manager a while ago and just bought tri nguyen's plo book, waiting for it to come in the mail. Have still yet to touch PLO since like my micro days though.

You may see me here in the future!
Where do you plan on starting? 100PLO?
haha ur gonna hate it


edit: tri nguyen's book is awesome though

QFT except for the hate thing, PLO is like funzies.
 
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