jjbish
Enthusiast
Silver Level
If both have AAxx w/ xx being 2 randoms you're about a 40-30-30 fave.
Depending on players and how you handle variance. I can be an easy fold or an easy jam ( player dependant for sure because they dont both have AAxx here)).
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M
Marginal
Junior Member
Silver Level
Eastern Promises?
GrimlyGrim
Rock Star
Silver Level
NO. You cant fold with AAxx preflop. Against 2 other players, you have too much equity to waste.
For the 5 bet, I dont like it. I dont really like it. I dont mind putting in 35% of my stack to see a flop, its not as bad in plo as it is in holdem and when you hit, you almost always win and can get away when you miss. The 5 bet to me is spew. Now if they have 3 bets of less than 5% I have to assume they have AAxx and are going to 5 bet a 4 bet which makes it harder to call the 4 bet. Once you know they have a hand that they are willing to stick all in preflop, it makes it a more marginal call.
Im not sure if this is going to make any sense to anybody but me
Sadly, I have an "I hate folding" complex at a certain point. I think in the end I just fold way too much in PLO and might get kind of spewy. Luckily in this instance I was right about both having AAxx, and flopped a straight. I figure as bad as I am at the game it was easier just to shove lulz.
M
Marginal
Junior Member
Silver Level
I think I am around 140 maybe 145bb/100 but its been a while since I checked on it. Seems like other regs can go way up to 190 as well.
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cjatud2012
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Silver Level
off to a good start obv
full tilt poker $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players - View hand 1119002
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter
BB: $10.94
UTG: $6.01
MP: $12.83
Hero (CO): $10.21
BTN: $3.30
SB: $10.64
Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is CO with 3 :heart: A :club: 5 :club: A :heart:
1 fold, MP raises to $0.30, Hero calls $0.30, 3 folds
Flop: ($0.75) T :club: 5 :spade: J :club: (2 players)
MP checks, Hero checks
Turn: ($0.75) 8 :club: (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $0.75, MP raises to $3, Hero raises to $9.75, MP raises to $12.53 all in, Hero calls $0.16 all in
River: ($20.57) 6 :diamond: (2 players - 2 are all in)
Final Pot: $20.57
MP shows 3 :spade: A :spade: 7 :club: 9 :club: (a straight flush, Jack high)
Hero shows 3 :heart: A :club: 5 :club: A :heart: (a flush, Ace high)
MP wins $19.20
(Rake: $1.37)
full tilt poker $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players - View hand 1119002
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter
BB: $10.94
UTG: $6.01
MP: $12.83
Hero (CO): $10.21
BTN: $3.30
SB: $10.64
Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is CO with 3 :heart: A :club: 5 :club: A :heart:
1 fold, MP raises to $0.30, Hero calls $0.30, 3 folds
Flop: ($0.75) T :club: 5 :spade: J :club: (2 players)
MP checks, Hero checks
Turn: ($0.75) 8 :club: (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $0.75, MP raises to $3, Hero raises to $9.75, MP raises to $12.53 all in, Hero calls $0.16 all in
River: ($20.57) 6 :diamond: (2 players - 2 are all in)
Final Pot: $20.57
MP shows 3 :spade: A :spade: 7 :club: 9 :club: (a straight flush, Jack high)
Hero shows 3 :heart: A :club: 5 :club: A :heart: (a flush, Ace high)
MP wins $19.20
(Rake: $1.37)
cjatud2012
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Silver Level
This one went a little better (although might be spew on my part).
Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players - View hand 1119004
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter
UTG: $3.55
Hero (MP): $10.90
CO: $9.66
BTN: $17.71
SB: $10.00
BB: $37.67
Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is MP with 7 :heart: J :club: 9 :diamond: T :heart:
1 fold, Hero calls $0.10, 2 folds, SB calls $0.05, BB checks
Flop: ($0.30) 8 :spade: 9 :heart: 3 :heart: (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets $0.30, Hero raises to $1.20, SB folds, BB calls $0.90
Turn: ($2.70) 4 :diamond: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.70, BB calls $2.70
River: ($8.10) 8 :club: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $6.90 all in, BB folds
Final Pot: $8.10
Hero wins $7.56
(Rake: $0.54)
Okay that's my last hand history itt.
Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players - View hand 1119004
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter
UTG: $3.55
Hero (MP): $10.90
CO: $9.66
BTN: $17.71
SB: $10.00
BB: $37.67
Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is MP with 7 :heart: J :club: 9 :diamond: T :heart:
1 fold, Hero calls $0.10, 2 folds, SB calls $0.05, BB checks
Flop: ($0.30) 8 :spade: 9 :heart: 3 :heart: (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets $0.30, Hero raises to $1.20, SB folds, BB calls $0.90
Turn: ($2.70) 4 :diamond: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.70, BB calls $2.70
River: ($8.10) 8 :club: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $6.90 all in, BB folds
Final Pot: $8.10
Hero wins $7.56
(Rake: $0.54)
Okay that's my last hand history itt.
cjatud2012
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Silver Level
Awesome, I'm really bad at this game.
I played about 1k hands yesterday of rush, probably experiencing some variance (lost like 5bi's ftw) but I do feel pretty lost a lot of the time, I feel like I clearly have a lot to learn.
Okay so I have like a million and one questions but I'll start with just one (so that I'm not incredibly annoying): what kind of range should we be betting with the river? Obviously this is a very broad question, so let's just say we're out of position for some awful reason, and we had a broadway straight on the turn and the board pairs on the river. We can't bet this right? Is this even a check/call? Or, how about we're in position on the river, we have a set of kings on a KQ9xx board. You can't bet that either right? I guess I feel like our bets should be pretty polarized on the river but I don't know if that's right or not, and it seems that these decisions are costing me the most money.
I played about 1k hands yesterday of rush, probably experiencing some variance (lost like 5bi's ftw) but I do feel pretty lost a lot of the time, I feel like I clearly have a lot to learn.
Okay so I have like a million and one questions but I'll start with just one (so that I'm not incredibly annoying): what kind of range should we be betting with the river? Obviously this is a very broad question, so let's just say we're out of position for some awful reason, and we had a broadway straight on the turn and the board pairs on the river. We can't bet this right? Is this even a check/call? Or, how about we're in position on the river, we have a set of kings on a KQ9xx board. You can't bet that either right? I guess I feel like our bets should be pretty polarized on the river but I don't know if that's right or not, and it seems that these decisions are costing me the most money.
M
Marginal
Junior Member
Silver Level
Im betting a lot of those hands but again it depends on the opponent. Im not unhappy betting the straight on a paired board because most micro players will call with a lot worse, same with the top. Once they call with worse (and most will) Im happy betting it.
M
Marginal
Junior Member
Silver Level
Not blasphemy Ive probably only played like 10K hands of ss plo. It usually when I dont have much time and just want to play non-thinking poker. It is not like ss holdem, there is still money in it. Personally, I prefer deep with antes or just plain deep in general.
kidkvno1
Sarah's Pet
Bronze Level
Been playing it
. i needed the break from HL on stars, i had a whole table go out on me. lolI can add some in site to hands, in here.
cjatud2012
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Silver Level
Okay, seems fair enough, I wasn't sure how thin was too thin in this crazy game. Of course it may have just been that I seemed to lose every showdown that involved a big river bet that made me ask, but yeah.
Another question, how often are we c-betting in heads-up pots with position, especially with AAxx hands? I mean, it's obviously going to be board dependent, I don't think I'd c-bet KQT two toned, etc., but what about like K92r? We still c-betting A72 type boards, or 852, etc.?
I apologize for these being really basic but this one comes up often and hopefully I can understand what I'm doing rather than just blindly fire like I've been doing.
M
Marginal
Junior Member
Silver Level
Na, Its a good question and I think it is hard to really get the right balance. As you already know, it depends a lot on my oponent but in generally I am betting a ton of boards against a ton of villains. More often than not a cbet is in order. Now obv you dont bet JT9r boards. But like K92r boards, I am more likely to bet if I hold the A blocker. I really dont want to get into this too indepth without a more specific situation because it really varies and my actions on the flop are more indicative of what I want to do on the turn river etc or what I want out the hand.