Let's try to become a winning player

[Supmargy]

Fixed statement bolded above. As long as I make good decisions I'm fine with it.

Well... Not exactly. Making good decisions implies making the max amount of profit/100 on average (right?). Or at least close to it.

Im actually fine making some bad decisions and winning less bb/100 on average, as long as:
1) im not losing on average
2) im having fun
3) im learning how to make quick decisions

If I find the right balance should be able to maximise profit/hour. For example: 1 table at 5bb/100 or 2 tables at 3bb/100. Two tables is more profitable. And as long as I hand review the session, learn and implement what I learned in the next session, it doesnt really matter how many tables I play, right? It might even expose things I know, bit still have to think about. Which is a good thing I think.

That being said, I get what you're saying. I should always strive to make the optimal play in any given situation.

Edit: I realise we might have a different opinion on the matter, but don't give up, as Im probably quite easily convinced.
So if you were me: when would you start multitabling? At what cutoff (amount of hands played, bb/100,...) would you say "allright lets try 10 tables?

 

[anthonydalvaro]

Hand one

Pre-flop: So first of all, Your opponent raised you 2 BB. I believe with AQo It would be acceptable to call. The raise to 7 BB was unnecessary. You dont have AK, AA, KK, QQ, or even JJ. This raise of 7 BB triggered his raise to 25.5 BB, making the preflop pot much larger than you should of allowed it to become. I believe you overvalued AQ.

Flop: Seeing as you were already in for 25.5 BB I'm sure you were happy to flop the top pair. I agree with the call here however, I wouldn't overvalue top pair.

Turn: This is where it gets ugly. I mean real ugly. Had you managed the pot preflop the conditions wouldn't have been as bad, however, here you are with top pair and a straight draw comes on the board. He goes all in for almost double the pot. I wouldn't put him on a straight because it is unlikely he would raise to 25.5 BB with KT or T8. I believe there are only two reasons he would go all in here. One, he's trying to bluff you. Or two, He has a Made hand. I don't think he would shove on AQ even. That puts him on AA or KK both of which beat you. He knew you had a hand. He probably knew you had a Q. That's why he shoved. You made a reasonable call, but I think sucking it up and folding is hard to do when the opponent has AA or KK. Because your looking at the board. Compared to the board you had a strong hand. But considering his preflop raise it would have been advisable to fold on the turn.



Hand 2

The river is where this one gets ugly. You should have just called. Simply put: You had the Idiot end of the straight.



Hand 3

Preflop: A fold to a raise of 11 BB would be advisable.

Flop: good call

Turn: It is possible that he was bluffing the straight and considering the bet size I think he was. But the most telling sign of this is his preflop raise of 11 BB. With a raise like that you should put him on Broadway cards. I wouldn't put him on 9T, 5T, 45 or even JT. I think he could be betting the flush but this is unlikely.



Hand 4

I think you should have called.
Again.. With that huge raise preflop, I would put him on broadway cards. He might have had a 10 but I would call to see the river. Then again, He could be holding High pocket pairs. This is questionable.



Hand 5


You could have shook him here with a larger preflop raise. maybe 4 or 5 BB? Also, You bet pretty small this hand for KK. Slow play is dangerous as you can see.



Hand 6
Good.


Hand 6

I would have done the same thing. He got lucky. I would have put him on one J not two.:fight::fight:

 

[Beanfacekilla]

Well... Not exactly. Making good decisions implies making the max amount of profit/100 on average (right?). Or at least close to it.

Im actually fine making some bad decisions and winning less bb/100 on average, as long as:
1) im not losing on average
2) im having fun
3) im learning how to make quick decisions

If I find the right balance should be able to maximise profit/hour. For example: 1 table at 5bb/100 or 2 tables at 3bb/100. Two tables is more profitable. And as long as I hand review the session, learn and implement what I learned in the next session, it doesnt really matter how many tables I play, right? It might even expose things I know, bit still have to think about. Which is a good thing I think.

That being said, I get what you're saying. I should always strive to make the optimal play in any given situation.

Edit: I realise we might have a different opinion on the matter, but don't give up, as Im probably quite easily convinced.
So if you were me: when would you start multitabling? At what cutoff (amount of hands played, bb/100,...) would you say "allright lets try 10 tables?

The point I was trying to make is don't be short term results oriented. Win or lose isn't what matters. If we playing like shit, but winning, that's no good. Conversely, if we are caging people, and playing awesome, and we lose, yeah good game. We should be happy.


Multi table when you have seen/played enough poker where these spots are automatic. When you have learned how to navigate after the flop, you are pretty experienced, and you know what to do most times, and lastly, you have beat the game over a large sample.

For example, even on autopilot, Q-Jo is a clear fold. Next hand. You seem like non believer, POW (pay off wizard). Stop doing that. Once you learn these little things, and improve your discipline, you will mop these games up bro. You're doing well already, but these are easy leaks to fix, and I see alot of potential in you! Keep up the good work.

Until then, we just need to learn, learn, learn. Improve. Keep being humble. Repeat.

Crush the game, ultimately. EZ game.

 

[Supmargy]

Back with another decent session. Toned it down to 4 tables, which is less action packed, but I can make better decisions vs specific villains. Also I've got time to think.

cash BR went from 70$ to 72$

2 hands I want your opinions on:

Hand 1: So this is quite a tough one for me. I feel like there's no real 4bet calling range right now. I figured I'd try with QQ, because most people 4betting have JJ+ and AK. So I wanted to see the flop, and if there's no A K (or there's a Q) i can call his raise. Thoughts?

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PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 205 BB (VPIP: 21.05, PFR: 10.53, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)
BTN: 92.5 BB (VPIP: 41.18, PFR: 23.53, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
Hero (SB): 102 BB
BB: 72 BB (VPIP: 15.79, PFR: 15.79, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)
UTG: 88 BB (VPIP: 41.18, PFR: 5.88, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 17)
MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q:diamond: Q:spade:

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, BTN raises to 42 BB, Hero calls 33 BB

Flop: (86 BB, 2 players) 3:diamond: 7:diamond: Q:club:
Hero checks, BTN bets 50.5 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 50.5 BB

Turn: (187 BB, 2 players) 9:club:

River: (187 BB, 2 players) T:spade:

Hero shows Q:diamond: Q:spade: (Three of a Kind, Queens)
(Pre 18%, Flop 92%, Turn 95%)
BTN shows A:heart: A:spade: (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 82%, Flop 8%, Turn 5%)
Hero wins 180.5 BB

Hand 2: villain is unknown, that's why I have no idea what his range could be...

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PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
SB: 90 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 78 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 28.57, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
MP: 47 BB (VPIP: 80.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
CO: 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB, CO posts penalty blind 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.5 BB) Hero has 9:club: J:club:

fold, fold, CO checks, fold, SB raises to 2 BB, Hero calls 1 BB, CO calls 1 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 3 players) 8:heart: J:spade: 9:diamond:
SB checks, Hero bets 4 BB, CO calls 4 BB, fold

Turn: (14 BB, 2 players) 2:spade:
Hero bets 9 BB, CO calls 9 BB

River: (32 BB, 2 players) T:club:
Hero checks, CO bets 23 BB, fold

CO wins 31 BB

 

[Alucard]

First hand is meh...
His 4 bet is pretty strong. Sometimes could be AK. Situational.

Second hand I'd 3bet pre. You are getting min raised by SB + there's dead money.
And you have a decent hand. I'd 3bet big but these kind of of players who are posting when sitting in tend to be sticky. Try to bet bigger & giving up on river seems right.

 

[sekcapilniqt]

I try the practice of learning but kogato and kasmeta do not happen to you

 

[Alucard]

Fixed statement bolded above. As long as I make good decisions I'm fine with it.

+1 for this
As Bean said don't be short term result oriented.
You should be making the the right decision no matter you are winning or losing. Becuse this is for the long run. What you practice & have done previously will affect your future decisions.
So when you do something wrong and win at one time, there'll be future scenarios where that will cost you more.
I've linked a podcast of Fedor on my 2NL thread. If you took a look at that you'll see he says the same.

 

[Supmargy]

Uhhh, worst session in the history of my sessions. Bad luck => tilt => bad play. lost 11$.

I'll have to grind it back later on. for now: a break.

Cash BR down to 61$

 

[Beanfacekilla]

Uhhh, worst session in the history of my sessions. Bad luck => tilt => bad play. lost 11$.

I'll have to grind it back later on. for now: a break.

Cash BR down to 61$

It happens dude. Learn from it, keep moving forward.

 

[braveslice]

Happy shark!

 

[Supmargy]

Well... I just made 11.30$ in the ccfr. Doesnt count toward my cash bankroll, but at least luck was on my side after this morning. So the total bankroll stays unchanged compared to this morning.

 

[Supmargy]

New day new session.

Went well. Nothing too crazy. Cash BR went from 61$ to 64$

A few hands.

Hand 1: This is an ok fold right? I don't think there are many good flops for us.

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PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 191.5 BB (VPIP: 11.90, PFR: 10.71, 3Bet Preflop: 3.33, Hands: 87)
CO: 413 BB (VPIP: 27.72, PFR: 26.00, 3Bet Preflop: 19.23, Hands: 105)
BTN: 167 BB (VPIP: 19.51, PFR: 15.85, 3Bet Preflop: 18.18, Hands: 86)
SB: 100.5 BB (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 18.18, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
Hero (BB): 101.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q:heart: A:club:

fold, CO raises to 2 BB, BTN raises to 9.5 BB, SB calls 9 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (22 BB, 2 players) 9:club: 3:heart: K:spade:
SB checks, BTN bets 8.5 BB, SB calls 8.5 BB

Turn: (39 BB, 2 players) 8:spade:
SB checks, BTN checks

River: (39 BB, 2 players) 2:spade:
SB bets 37.5 BB, fold

SB wins 37.5 BB

Hand 2: I Should consider a medium pocket pair like a small one when they 3bet me right? Just fold a flop like this one next time?

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PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (SB): 100 BB
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 66.67, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 3)
CO: 101.5 BB (VPIP: 14.13, PFR: 13.04, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 94)
BTN: 40 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T:club: T:diamond:

fold, fold, Hero raises to 4 BB, BB raises to 12.5 BB, Hero calls 8.5 BB

Flop: (25 BB, 2 players) 7:spade: A:heart: J:diamond:
Hero checks, BB bets 7 BB, Hero calls 7 BB

Turn: (39 BB, 2 players) Q:heart:
Hero checks, BB bets 19 BB, fold

BB wins 37.5 BB

Hand 3: stuff like this is frustrating. But did I misplay?

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PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (CO): 158 BB
BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 28.85, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 53)
SB: 105.5 BB (VPIP: 13.68, PFR: 10.26, 3Bet Preflop: 8.00, Hands: 119)
BB: 38 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
UTG: 107.5 BB (VPIP: 18.18, PFR: 18.18, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)
MP: 38.5 BB (VPIP: 34.62, PFR: 15.38, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 27)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K:diamond: K:spade:

fold, MP calls 1 BB, Hero raises to 4 BB, fold, fold, fold, MP calls 3 BB

Flop: (9.5 BB, 2 players) 9:heart: T:heart: 9:spade:
MP checks, Hero bets 6 BB, MP calls 6 BB

Turn: (21.5 BB, 2 players) 2:diamond:
MP checks, Hero bets 15 BB, MP calls 15 BB

River: (51.5 BB, 2 players) 5:diamond:
MP checks, Hero bets 15.5 BB, MP calls 13.5 BB and is all-in

Hero shows K:diamond: K:spade: (Two Pair, Kings and Nines)
(Pre 71%, Flop 11%, Turn 5%)
MP shows 9:club: A:spade: (Three of a Kind, Nines)
(Pre 29%, Flop 89%, Turn 95%)
MP wins 76 BB

Hand 4: This is a special one. I felt like the chance of him having a set was small, and he didnt bet enough to represent one. A pair was possible I suppose, but unlikely. If he had a small pp that didn't make the set. Would he bet the river? This felt like a bluff so I called. Was it good or bad?

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PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 141 BB (VPIP: 36.36, PFR: 36.36, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 11)
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 35.71, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 14)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 100.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
UTG: 110.5 BB (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 27.27, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 11)
Hero (CO): 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A:spade: K:club:

fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BTN calls 3 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (7.5 BB, 2 players) 5:diamond: 2:club: 8:heart:
Hero checks, BTN bets 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB

Turn: (13.5 BB, 2 players) 7:heart:
Hero checks, BTN bets 5 BB, Hero calls 5 BB

River: (23.5 BB, 2 players) 3:diamond:
Hero checks, BTN bets 11 BB, Hero calls 11 BB

Hand 4 result

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BTN shows K:heart: J:heart: (High Card, King)
(Pre 30%, Flop 17%, Turn 27%)
Hero shows A:spade: K:club: (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 70%, Flop 83%, Turn 73%)
Hero wins 44 BB

 

[Alucard]

Hand 1 - correct
Hand 2 - why are you opening up to 4BB & not 3? I'd sometimes 4bet here BvsB. But this seems fine
Hand 3 - Raise more pre. 5BB ish
Hand 4 - I am leaning towards a cbet & taking it down. But if you have some reads of the player, it may be the better option. His bluff sizes are pretty small. If I were him, I'd bet way bigger perhaps including an overbet
The issue here is if he played like that, you'll be in a tough spot. So you have to balance out your bluff cbet range with your value cbet range. Otherwise you'll be exploitable

 

[Supmargy]

I open raise 3bb, except when there are limpers. Then its 1bb per limp.
If im on the SB i open raise 4bb to make him pay for being in position. Same with 3bets. 3x in position, 4x oop.

If im gonna start openraise 5x when i have kk, theyll know. So i think 4bb is still fine.

Hand 4: id probably bet way bigger as well. Make them pay to find out whether youre bluffing.
The reason I didnt cbet AK is because it has brought me in tough spots quite often when im oop. So i figured id rather see what he did. Ill still cbet sometimes to balance the ranges.

 

[Alucard]

I don't agree with SB open being 4BB. But if it's working for you I guess it's fine. But IMO you are bloating the pot OOP.
5BB raise with a limper isn't only for KK & strong hands. It's for all the hands.
You are targeting the dead money.

 

[Supmargy]

The 4bb raise from small blind was suggested by many videos i saw on youtube. Ive checked in pt4 whether it was profitable and it was. But i dont know if the difference would be apparent with 3bb. Ill try it out. And ill try the 5bb out as well. Do you make it 6bb with 2 limpers?

 

[Alucard]

I have no clue about it.
But those stuff get outdated pretty quickly. Check out upswing poker articles. They release a ton of good stuff.
Yeah it depends though. I sometime open up even bigger. Specially at 2NL & 5NL. When you move up it gets smaller.

 

[Supmargy]

Cash BR from 64$ to 67$

Good session, played decently I think.

Hand 1: I don't like these spots. But i think a fold was in order. The guy played pretty passively and only seemed to bet when he had something. So there we go. Maybe should have played a bit more carefully?

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PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 114 BB (VPIP: 48.53, PFR: 7.35, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 69)
BB: 105 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
UTG: 96 BB (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
Hero (MP): 105 BB
CO: 163 BB (VPIP: 23.26, PFR: 18.60, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 86)
BTN: 110 BB (VPIP: 24.39, PFR: 19.51, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 82)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K:club: K:heart:

UTG calls 1 BB, Hero raises to 5 BB, CO calls 5 BB, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls 4 BB

Flop: (16.5 BB, 3 players) 4:club: A:club: T:club:
UTG checks, Hero bets 12 BB, fold, UTG calls 12 BB

Turn: (40.5 BB, 2 players) 9:diamond:
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: (40.5 BB, 2 players) 6:heart:
UTG bets 48 BB, fold

UTG wins 39 BB

Hand 2: welcome to 2NL.

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PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 119.5 BB (VPIP: 33.93, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 4.76, Hands: 58)
Hero (BB): 112.5 BB
UTG: 108 BB (VPIP: 26.79, PFR: 17.86, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 58)
MP: 89.5 BB (VPIP: 34.62, PFR: 28.85, 3Bet Preflop: 17.65, Hands: 58)
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 25.45, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 56)
BTN: 103.5 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q:spade: J:diamond:

fold, fold, CO calls 1 BB, fold, fold, Hero checks

Flop: (2.5 BB, 2 players) J:club: 4:spade: 6:club:
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: (2.5 BB, 2 players) 2:diamond:
Hero bets 2 BB, CO calls 2 BB

River: (6.5 BB, 2 players) 2:heart:
Hero bets 5 BB, CO raises to 97 BB and is all-in, fold

CO wins 16 BB

Hand 3: Is this a leak? Do we bet A high sometimes on the turn when V checks on the flop? Or do we check twice? We could be representing AQ after all with this line of play (on the turn i mean). AQ would bet the river.

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PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 100 BB
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 56.41, PFR: 23.08, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 41)
BTN: 124 BB (VPIP: 29.27, PFR: 19.51, 3Bet Preflop: 5.88, Hands: 41)
SB: 219.5 BB (VPIP: 17.50, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 41)
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 113.5 BB (VPIP: 42.86, PFR: 42.86, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB, MP posts penalty blind 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.5 BB) Hero has J:club: A:heart:

fold, MP checks, CO raises to 4.5 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 3.5 BB, fold

Flop: (10.5 BB, 2 players) 2:heart: 8:diamond: Q:spade:
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: (10.5 BB, 2 players) 7:spade:
Hero bets 7 BB, CO calls 7 BB

River: (24.5 BB, 2 players) 5:diamond:
Hero checks, CO checks

Hero shows J:club: A:heart: (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 30%, Flop 15%, Turn 7%)
CO shows J:diamond: J:spade: (One Pair, Jacks)
(Pre 70%, Flop 85%, Turn 93%)
CO wins 23.5 BB

 

[Supmargy]

So I played zoom today. 3 long sessions, 1 awful, 1 bad, 1 great. I felt like I should play more aggressively on zoom than on normal cash tables. Can anyone confirm this?

I was down 8.18$ after the first, 10.6$ after the second, and up 1.6$ after the third.

Which brings our cash BR from 67$ to 68.5$

Im not gonna post hands right now, as previous ones still have to be reviewed if possible, and I haven't really gotten into reviewing my sessions yet.

Here's the graph!

 

[Beanfacekilla]

Cash BR from 64$ to 67$

Good session, played decently I think.

Hand 1: I don't like these spots. But i think a fold was in order. The guy played pretty passively and only seemed to bet when he had something. So there we go. Maybe should have played a bit more carefully?

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PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 114 BB (VPIP: 48.53, PFR: 7.35, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 69)
BB: 105 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
UTG: 96 BB (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
Hero (MP): 105 BB
CO: 163 BB (VPIP: 23.26, PFR: 18.60, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 86)
BTN: 110 BB (VPIP: 24.39, PFR: 19.51, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 82)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K<font color='black'>♣</font> K<font color='red'>♥</font>

UTG calls 1 BB, Hero raises to 5 BB, CO calls 5 BB, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls 4 BB

Flop: (16.5 BB, 3 players) 4<font color='black'>♣</font> A<font color='black'>♣</font> T<font color='black'>♣</font>
UTG checks, Hero bets 12 BB, fold, UTG calls 12 BB

Turn: (40.5 BB, 2 players) 9<font color='red'>♦</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: (40.5 BB, 2 players) 6<font color='red'>♥</font>
UTG bets 48 BB, fold

UTG wins 39 BB

Hand 2: welcome to 2NL.

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PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 119.5 BB (VPIP: 33.93, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 4.76, Hands: 58)
Hero (BB): 112.5 BB
UTG: 108 BB (VPIP: 26.79, PFR: 17.86, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 58)
MP: 89.5 BB (VPIP: 34.62, PFR: 28.85, 3Bet Preflop: 17.65, Hands: 58)
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 25.45, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 56)
BTN: 103.5 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q<font color='black'>♠</font> J<font color='red'>♦</font>

fold, fold, CO calls 1 BB, fold, fold, Hero checks

Flop: (2.5 BB, 2 players) J<font color='black'>♣</font> 4<font color='black'>♠</font> 6<font color='black'>♣</font>
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: (2.5 BB, 2 players) 2<font color='red'>♦</font>
Hero bets 2 BB, CO calls 2 BB

River: (6.5 BB, 2 players) 2<font color='red'>♥</font>
Hero bets 5 BB, CO raises to 97 BB and is all-in, fold

CO wins 16 BB

Hand 3: Is this a leak? Do we bet A high sometimes on the turn when V checks on the flop? Or do we check twice? We could be representing AQ after all with this line of play (on the turn i mean). AQ would bet the river.

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PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 100 BB
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 56.41, PFR: 23.08, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 41)
BTN: 124 BB (VPIP: 29.27, PFR: 19.51, 3Bet Preflop: 5.88, Hands: 41)
SB: 219.5 BB (VPIP: 17.50, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 41)
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 113.5 BB (VPIP: 42.86, PFR: 42.86, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB, MP posts penalty blind 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.5 BB) Hero has J<font color='black'>♣</font> A<font color='red'>♥</font>

fold, MP checks, CO raises to 4.5 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 3.5 BB, fold

Flop: (10.5 BB, 2 players) 2<font color='red'>♥</font> 8<font color='red'>♦</font> Q<font color='black'>♠</font>
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: (10.5 BB, 2 players) 7<font color='black'>♠</font>
Hero bets 7 BB, CO calls 7 BB

River: (24.5 BB, 2 players) 5<font color='red'>♦</font>
Hero checks, CO checks

Hero shows J<font color='black'>♣</font> A<font color='red'>♥</font> (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 30%, Flop 15%, Turn 7%)
CO shows J<font color='red'>♦</font> J<font color='black'>♠</font> (One Pair, Jacks)
(Pre 70%, Flop 85%, Turn 93%)
CO wins 23.5 BB

KK hand I prob just check back flop, call turn, decide river. Your line is fine as played, but generally checking back flop.



Q-J I prob play the same, NH. Good fold on the river clearly.


A-J hand, yeah I may 3b pre, may just defend, as you did. Read/dynamic dependant. As played I may just give up post flop. I don't mind the turn stab, and give up. I probably just give up though post flop.




Not bad though man. Keep up the good work.

 

[Alucard]

yeah the KK is a check back on flop.
Why?
Because it's a WA/WB situation. Check out my 2NL where we discussed WA/WB a lot.
It simply means that when in a situation like this, you have KK and an Ace comes on the flop, you are either Way ahead or Way behind. So the most profitable way to play this is to check back flop in position.And check/call turn & evaluate on river.

 

[Supmargy]

Never heard of WA/WB. Will definitely check it out.

Bean, I just saw you lost your dog. Im really sorry for your loss. Thank you so much for still keeping track of my thread and helping me out. You're a really nice guy. I wish you the best!

 

[okeedokalee]

At micro levels the advice I most see is to play SFP, play straight forward poker, the hands you have displayed up to now can only lead long term to disappointment.
Play tighter and isolate players who play the way you do a present.

 

[Supmargy]

At micro levels the advice I most see is to play SFP, play straight forward poker, the hands you have displayed up to now can only lead long term to disappointment.
Play tighter and isolate players who play the way you do a present.

Did you comment on the latest hand or the first hands/posts from the thread?

Because tighter than AQ+, KK+, KJs from the button... seems like bad advice. Which are basically the last 7 hands I posted.

My VPIP is around 18-22 on average with ~15 in EP and ~30 in the BTN. That should be fine right?

here are the stats from yesterday. I was tighter because I was playing 3 tables of zoom. It makes it more managable.

 

[Supmargy]

New session (also played a bit of zoom on phone so no stats for that).

Some coolers, some lucky allins. Overall decent session.

Cash BR went from 68.5$ to 72$

Some hands:

Hand 1: These are ok folds right? Any reason to call here (sometimes)?

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PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 281 BB
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 18)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 35.00, PFR: 35.00, 3Bet Preflop: 22.22, Hands: 21)
UTG: 96.5 BB (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 9)
MP: 189.5 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
CO: 157 BB (VPIP: 25.68, PFR: 22.97, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 75)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K:heart: Q:heart:

fold, MP raises to 2 BB, fold, Hero raises to 6 BB, SB raises to 18.5 BB, fold, fold, fold

SB wins 15 BB

Hand 2: Got to hot, got outa there. thoughts?

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PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100.5 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
SB: 101 BB
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 20.59, PFR: 17.65, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 34)
UTG: 50 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
Hero (MP): 100 BB
CO: 152 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A:club: J:diamond:

UTG raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB, CO calls 3 BB, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (10.5 BB, 3 players) A:spade: Q:heart: J:spade:
UTG bets 5 BB, Hero calls 5 BB, CO calls 5 BB

Turn: (25.5 BB, 3 players) Q:spade:
UTG checks, Hero checks, CO bets 16.5 BB, UTG calls 16.5 BB, fold

River: (58.5 BB, 2 players) Q:club:
UTG checks, CO checks

UTG shows 9:spade: A:heart: (Full House, Queens full of Aces)
(Pre 55%, Flop 67%, Turn 24%)
CO mucks 6:spade: 5:spade: (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 45%, Flop 33%, Turn 76%)
UTG wins 56.5 BB

Hand 3: Is checking a second time here an option to trap? To let them make a betting mistake? Or was the K a good enough reason to bet? I figured any other K would call here. not sure.

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PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 49 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
SB: 297.5 BB
Hero (BB): 110.5 BB
UTG: 140 BB
MP: 42 BB
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: 100.00, Hands: 2)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 6:diamond: 6:club:

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, CO calls 3 BB, fold, SB calls 2.5 BB, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop: (12 BB, 4 players) T:spade: 2:diamond: 6:spade:
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, CO checks

Turn: (12 BB, 4 players) K:club:
SB checks, Hero bets 7 BB, fold, fold, fold

Hero wins 11.5 BB

Hand 4: Bonus! This happened. Got lucky!

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PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 173.5 BB
SB: 100.5 BB
BB: 193 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 14.81, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 54)
UTG: 117.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 17)
MP: 104 BB
Hero (CO): 164 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A:club: A:heart:

fold, MP raises to 5 BB, Hero raises to 15 BB, fold, fold, fold, MP calls 10 BB

Flop: (31.5 BB, 2 players) 9:club: 5:diamond: K:diamond:
MP checks, Hero bets 19 BB, MP calls 19 BB

Turn: (69.5 BB, 2 players) T:club:
MP checks, Hero bets 70 BB, MP calls 70 BB and is all-in

River: (209.5 BB, 2 players) A:spade:

MP shows 5:heart: T:spade: (Two Pair, Tens and Fives)
(Pre 13%, Flop 20%, Turn 82%)
Hero shows A:club: A:heart: (Three of a Kind, Aces)
(Pre 87%, Flop 80%, Turn 18%)
Hero wins 202 BB