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Supmargy
Visionary
Silver Level
Hi all!
I was playing a bit just now and figured this hand could be handled differently if played by others. I'll try to talk it through a bit, explaining my reasoning.
Any thoughts? Should I still bet more in some spots?
I was playing a bit just now and figured this hand could be handled differently if played by others. I'll try to talk it through a bit, explaining my reasoning.
PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: 93.5 BB
SB: 53 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 10)
UTG: 469.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
Hero (MP): 130 BB
CO: 119 BB
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8:diamond: 7:diamond:
fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 2 BB
Preflop: Standard I suppose
Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players) 8:heart: 6:diamond: 8:spade:
BB checks, Hero checks
Flop: He doesn't donk, which is normal. But he's the BB so can call a bit wider than SB. I feel like he probably has nothing. I decide to try and trap him, since it's not a dangerous board for us at all. If he hits on the turn we can make some money and he will probably only have a pair which is still behind us.
Turn: (6.5 BB, 2 players) K:club:
BB bets 4.5 BB, Hero calls 4.5 BB
Turn: Hey he bets! Nice! I could rerais but don't want to scare him off, so I call.
River: (15.5 BB, 2 players) 9:spade:
BB checks, Hero bets 6 BB, BB calls 6 BB
Hero shows 8:diamond: 7:diamond: (Three of a Kind, Eights)
River: He checks, he might have a 6 or a king. 8 is unlikely, straight is unlikely. I think he's got nothing or a weakish pair (maybe pair of kings with low medium kicker). So if I valuebet for 60+% of the pot I might scare him away. I valuebet lower to induce a call. And I get paid off.
(Pre 39%, Flop 97%, Turn 95%)
BB mucks J:heart: K:heart: (Two Pair, Kings and Eights)
(Pre 61%, Flop 3%, Turn 5%)
Hero wins 26.5 BB
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: 93.5 BB
SB: 53 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 10)
UTG: 469.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
Hero (MP): 130 BB
CO: 119 BB
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8:diamond: 7:diamond:
fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 2 BB
Preflop: Standard I suppose
Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players) 8:heart: 6:diamond: 8:spade:
BB checks, Hero checks
Flop: He doesn't donk, which is normal. But he's the BB so can call a bit wider than SB. I feel like he probably has nothing. I decide to try and trap him, since it's not a dangerous board for us at all. If he hits on the turn we can make some money and he will probably only have a pair which is still behind us.
Turn: (6.5 BB, 2 players) K:club:
BB bets 4.5 BB, Hero calls 4.5 BB
Turn: Hey he bets! Nice! I could rerais but don't want to scare him off, so I call.
River: (15.5 BB, 2 players) 9:spade:
BB checks, Hero bets 6 BB, BB calls 6 BB
Hero shows 8:diamond: 7:diamond: (Three of a Kind, Eights)
River: He checks, he might have a 6 or a king. 8 is unlikely, straight is unlikely. I think he's got nothing or a weakish pair (maybe pair of kings with low medium kicker). So if I valuebet for 60+% of the pot I might scare him away. I valuebet lower to induce a call. And I get paid off.
(Pre 39%, Flop 97%, Turn 95%)
BB mucks J:heart: K:heart: (Two Pair, Kings and Eights)
(Pre 61%, Flop 3%, Turn 5%)
Hero wins 26.5 BB
Any thoughts? Should I still bet more in some spots?
Beanfacekilla
Legend
Silver Level
Bet bigger on the river. I probably bet about 12BB. We are targeting Kx here. He will call more if he has that I think, and it looks like he has Kx, according to action.
Aside from that, I don't know if I do anything differently.
Aside from that, I don't know if I do anything differently.
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Supmargy
Visionary
Silver Level
What did you think of my reasoning? Kx with x being medium... wouldnt a 60+% value bet scare him of? i have better kings in my range, as well as 8.
Here's a spot I'd like to avoid in the future. How do I do that?
Here's a spot I'd like to avoid in the future. How do I do that?
PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: 274.5 BB (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
SB: 471 BB (VPIP: 15.79, PFR: 10.53, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 18.75, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 32)
UTG: 80 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 100.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
Hero (MP): 101.5 BB
CO: 143 BB (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J:club: J:diamond:
UTG raises to 2 BB, Hero raises to 6 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 5.5 BB, fold, UTG calls 4 BB
Flop: (19 BB, 3 players) 6:club: T:spade: 3:diamond:
SB checks, UTG bets 1 BB, Hero raises to 14 BB, SB calls 14 BB, fold
Turn: (48 BB, 2 players) 8:diamond:
SB bets 23.5 BB, Hero calls 23.5 BB
River: (95 BB, 2 players) K:heart:
SB bets 59 BB, fold
SB wins 91.5 BB
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: 274.5 BB (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
SB: 471 BB (VPIP: 15.79, PFR: 10.53, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 18.75, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 32)
UTG: 80 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 100.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
Hero (MP): 101.5 BB
CO: 143 BB (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J:club: J:diamond:
UTG raises to 2 BB, Hero raises to 6 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 5.5 BB, fold, UTG calls 4 BB
Flop: (19 BB, 3 players) 6:club: T:spade: 3:diamond:
SB checks, UTG bets 1 BB, Hero raises to 14 BB, SB calls 14 BB, fold
Turn: (48 BB, 2 players) 8:diamond:
SB bets 23.5 BB, Hero calls 23.5 BB
River: (95 BB, 2 players) K:heart:
SB bets 59 BB, fold
SB wins 91.5 BB
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Supmargy
Visionary
Silver Level
Hey!
Last few days have been ups and downs. More ups though. I don't feel like I have been playing badly. A few tilt plays here and there but nothing worrysome as they don't happen often.
Cash bankroll should be around 85$ now.
Here's one more hand from tonight. I wonder whether I should reraise somewhere sooner. Any ideas how to squeeze more money from these situations?
Eh here's another because i think this was really stupid. Should I have folded though?
Last few days have been ups and downs. More ups though. I don't feel like I have been playing badly. A few tilt plays here and there but nothing worrysome as they don't happen often.
Cash bankroll should be around 85$ now.
Here's one more hand from tonight. I wonder whether I should reraise somewhere sooner. Any ideas how to squeeze more money from these situations?
PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 12.82, PFR: 7.69, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 39)
SB: 60 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
BB: 119.5 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
MP: 430 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
Hero (CO): 162 BB
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 2:spade: 2:diamond:
fold, MP raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB, fold, fold, fold
Flop: (7.5 BB, 2 players) 2:club: 2:heart: J:club:
MP bets 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB
Turn: (13.5 BB, 2 players) A:diamond:
MP bets 6 BB, Hero calls 6 BB
River: (25.5 BB, 2 players) 8:spade:
MP bets 12 BB, Hero raises to 38 BB, fold
Hero wins 48 BB
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 12.82, PFR: 7.69, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 39)
SB: 60 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
BB: 119.5 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
MP: 430 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
Hero (CO): 162 BB
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 2:spade: 2:diamond:
fold, MP raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB, fold, fold, fold
Flop: (7.5 BB, 2 players) 2:club: 2:heart: J:club:
MP bets 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB
Turn: (13.5 BB, 2 players) A:diamond:
MP bets 6 BB, Hero calls 6 BB
River: (25.5 BB, 2 players) 8:spade:
MP bets 12 BB, Hero raises to 38 BB, fold
Hero wins 48 BB
Eh here's another because i think this was really stupid. Should I have folded though?
PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: 102.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
SB: 431.5 BB
BB: 103.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
Hero (UTG): 100 BB
MP: 14.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
CO: 478.5 BB (VPIP: 22.89, PFR: 14.46, 3Bet Preflop: 3.23, Hands: 83)
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J:club: J:diamond:
Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 3 BB, fold, BB raises to 13 BB, Hero calls 10 BB, BTN calls 10 BB
Flop: (39.5 BB, 3 players) 5:heart: 5:diamond: 4:spade:
BB bets 23 BB, Hero raises to 87 BB and is all-in, fold, BB calls 64 BB
Turn: (213.5 BB, 2 players) 8:heart:
River: (213.5 BB, 2 players) T:spade:
BB shows A:heart: A:spade: (Two Pair, Aces and Fives)
(Pre 80%, Flop 92%, Turn 95%)
Hero shows J:club: J:diamond: (Two Pair, Jacks and Fives)
(Pre 20%, Flop 8%, Turn 5%)
BB wins 206 BB
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: 102.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
SB: 431.5 BB
BB: 103.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
Hero (UTG): 100 BB
MP: 14.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
CO: 478.5 BB (VPIP: 22.89, PFR: 14.46, 3Bet Preflop: 3.23, Hands: 83)
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J:club: J:diamond:
Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 3 BB, fold, BB raises to 13 BB, Hero calls 10 BB, BTN calls 10 BB
Flop: (39.5 BB, 3 players) 5:heart: 5:diamond: 4:spade:
BB bets 23 BB, Hero raises to 87 BB and is all-in, fold, BB calls 64 BB
Turn: (213.5 BB, 2 players) 8:heart:
River: (213.5 BB, 2 players) T:spade:
BB shows A:heart: A:spade: (Two Pair, Aces and Fives)
(Pre 80%, Flop 92%, Turn 95%)
Hero shows J:club: J:diamond: (Two Pair, Jacks and Fives)
(Pre 20%, Flop 8%, Turn 5%)
BB wins 206 BB
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braveslice
Pull-ups!
Silver Level
Oh great, please tell me your though process on JJ hand. I have always wondered this play, the play is quite common.
22 hand, given so weak bet sizes from villain I would probably do just the same. But raising turn with reasonable size might be the correct play (he will call at least Ax, and hard to see him betting river anymore except if he has A)
22 hand, given so weak bet sizes from villain I would probably do just the same. But raising turn with reasonable size might be the correct play (he will call at least Ax, and hard to see him betting river anymore except if he has A)
Beanfacekilla
Legend
Silver Level
Board is super dry, and his bet is respectable amount. BB did 3b pre. So if we jam, we are prob only getting called by a bigger PP.
So, officially I call and reassess turn. BB did 3b pre, and we want him to barrel with overs. We have one behind us, so one could argue raising to define BTN hand, but against BB I just call and re-assess.
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braveslice
Pull-ups!
Silver Level
Yes bean, I was really asking from @Supmargy what are the reasons for his alternative line. Like usual, my text was unclear, but good explanation anyways, thx. These spots are hard to play against for me, because my range analysis is usually totally wrong, I hope @Sup can help me with that.
Beanfacekilla
Legend
Silver Level
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Supmargy
Visionary
Silver Level
The reason I played it like that is because I wasn't thinking. it was a snap jam.
If I had assessed the situation beforehand, I would have realised what Bean said.
"BB did 3b pre. So if we jam, we are prob only getting called by a bigger PP."
The problem with this hand I think is whether we call the turn again if we call the flop. Would we fold then? It's not easy to fold if the turn card isn't an overpair.
If I had assessed the situation beforehand, I would have realised what Bean said.
"BB did 3b pre. So if we jam, we are prob only getting called by a bigger PP."
The problem with this hand I think is whether we call the turn again if we call the flop. Would we fold then? It's not easy to fold if the turn card isn't an overpair.
blueskies
Legend
Loyaler
Hand 1 is a tough one with only 17 hands of history. If you had may hands with villain and know that he's not 4 betting except with QQ+ then you can consider laying down AQ. I guess he had KK or AA.
Hand 4 with small pps at micro levels I would just limp and try to see the pot as cheaply as possible. You are looking to setmine so you don't wanna build up the pot when all you have is a pair of 6s.
Hand 4 with small pps at micro levels I would just limp and try to see the pot as cheaply as possible. You are looking to setmine so you don't wanna build up the pot when all you have is a pair of 6s.
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Supmargy
Visionary
Silver Level
Ough those hands. first hands I ever posted in this thread. Couldn't remember them.
Hand 1: I fold AQ to a 4bet pre every time now. I think it was a really bad call. Most 4bets are with JJ+ and AK. So In the best case scenario I have a flip, most of the time i'm dominated.
Hand 4: Seems like standard play to me. Raising is ok pre, you don't want the BB to check and get a 7 with his 72o.
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braveslice
Pull-ups!
Silver Level
=) funny to read first hands. Hand 4: Yes totally always raise online, because you have quite much fold equity pre but also flop in many cases, also this disguises the set many times. Facing 3bet is quite rare. That said on that hand I personally would fold to 3bet squeeze because it's quite large and we don't know anything about the raiser.
Also limping is 80% or so times small to medium pair from regs, making it very easy to play against. There are not many flops they can call the cbet if they are not fish. So if you are not protected by multiple limpers, you get isolated wide and limping is losing play.
Example1:
Pre: UTG limps 1bb 55, fold, CO raises 4bb Td8d, fold, fold, fold, call pot 9.5bb
Flop: Qh7s2d, UTG checks, CO cbets 6bb, fold (we cbet close to 100%, higher the cards the better)
Example2:
Pre: UTG limps 1bb 77, fold, CO raises 4bb Td8d, fold, fold, fold, call pot 9.5bb
Flop: Qh7s2d, UTG checks, CO cbets 6bb, call
Turn: Qh7s2d4h, UTG check, CO check
River: Qh7s2d4hKs, UTG bet, CO fold
And to make it even worse, you can isolate/show aggression to gain fold equity on the flop profitable OOP too.
Also limping is 80% or so times small to medium pair from regs, making it very easy to play against. There are not many flops they can call the cbet if they are not fish. So if you are not protected by multiple limpers, you get isolated wide and limping is losing play.
Example1:
Pre: UTG limps 1bb 55, fold, CO raises 4bb Td8d, fold, fold, fold, call pot 9.5bb
Flop: Qh7s2d, UTG checks, CO cbets 6bb, fold (we cbet close to 100%, higher the cards the better)
Example2:
Pre: UTG limps 1bb 77, fold, CO raises 4bb Td8d, fold, fold, fold, call pot 9.5bb
Flop: Qh7s2d, UTG checks, CO cbets 6bb, call
Turn: Qh7s2d4h, UTG check, CO check
River: Qh7s2d4hKs, UTG bet, CO fold
And to make it even worse, you can isolate/show aggression to gain fold equity on the flop profitable OOP too.
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Supmargy
Visionary
Silver Level
First royal flush in 5 months! I just wanted to share.
Maybe a minraise would have been better on the river. but I was too excited
Maybe a minraise would have been better on the river. but I was too excited
PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: 227.5 BB (VPIP: 20.83, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)
SB: 43.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
BB: 102.5 BB
UTG: 144.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
MP: 101.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)
Hero (CO): 107 BB
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T:spade: A:spade:
fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 2 BB
Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players) 8:heart: Q:spade: K:spade:
BB bets 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB
Turn: (12.5 BB, 2 players) 2:heart:
BB bets 5 BB, Hero calls 5 BB
River: (22.5 BB, 2 players) J:spade:
BB bets 20 BB, Hero raises to 96 BB and is all-in, fold
Hero wins 60.5 BB
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: 227.5 BB (VPIP: 20.83, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)
SB: 43.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
BB: 102.5 BB
UTG: 144.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
MP: 101.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)
Hero (CO): 107 BB
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T:spade: A:spade:
fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 2 BB
Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players) 8:heart: Q:spade: K:spade:
BB bets 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB
Turn: (12.5 BB, 2 players) 2:heart:
BB bets 5 BB, Hero calls 5 BB
River: (22.5 BB, 2 players) J:spade:
BB bets 20 BB, Hero raises to 96 BB and is all-in, fold
Hero wins 60.5 BB
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anthonydalvaro
Rising Star
Bronze Level
What do you all think of this call? Should I have known?
Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com
CO: 68 BB (VPIP: 62.50, PFR: 62.50, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 10)
BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
SB: 100.5 BB (VPIP: -, PFR: -, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
Hero (BB): 37 BB
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Jh As
fold, BTN raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero calls 2 BB
Flop : (6.5 BB, 2 players) 4d Ah 8d
Hero checks, BTN checks
Turn : (6.5 BB, 2 players) 9s
Hero bets 3 BB, BTN calls 3 BB
River : (12.5 BB, 2 players) Kd
Hero bets 6 BB, BTN raises to 18 BB, Hero calls 12 BB
BTN shows Ad 6d (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 32%, Flop 48%, Turn 27%)
Hero shows Jh As (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 68%, Flop 52%, Turn 73%)
BTN wins 46.5 BB
Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com
CO: 68 BB (VPIP: 62.50, PFR: 62.50, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 10)
BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
SB: 100.5 BB (VPIP: -, PFR: -, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
Hero (BB): 37 BB
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Jh As
fold, BTN raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero calls 2 BB
Flop : (6.5 BB, 2 players) 4d Ah 8d
Hero checks, BTN checks
Turn : (6.5 BB, 2 players) 9s
Hero bets 3 BB, BTN calls 3 BB
River : (12.5 BB, 2 players) Kd
Hero bets 6 BB, BTN raises to 18 BB, Hero calls 12 BB
BTN shows Ad 6d (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 32%, Flop 48%, Turn 27%)
Hero shows Jh As (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 68%, Flop 52%, Turn 73%)
BTN wins 46.5 BB
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Supmargy
Visionary
Silver Level
If I were you I would 3bet preflop. BTN open raises can be quite wide, so you can narrow down his range if he calls.
As played: Check on the flop is fine. No need to donk.
Turn: Valuebet higher. You're probably winning right now, so a 60-80% pot raise is better.
River: I think you played it fine. A check call might have been better, but there are arguments for both lines of play. If you play around a flush every single time you're gonna have a leak there. It only happens around 10-12% of the time IF he has suited cards.
So to answer your initial question: you could have realised a flush was in his range, but you shouldn't play around it. Discourage calling with suited gappers with a 3bet pre.
Beanfacekilla
Legend
Silver Level
Fold river on above hand, with A-J.
We beat zero percent of river raising range. I like the hand until then. I agree we could and probably should 3b pre though. We are going to miss 67% of the time and have to check fold.
On the river, he has 2p+, and probably a flush. I think it's a clear bet/fold spot. We just need to fold to raise. That's my opinion anyway.
We beat zero percent of river raising range. I like the hand until then. I agree we could and probably should 3b pre though. We are going to miss 67% of the time and have to check fold.
On the river, he has 2p+, and probably a flush. I think it's a clear bet/fold spot. We just need to fold to raise. That's my opinion anyway.
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Supmargy
Visionary
Silver Level
Hey Guys!
It's been 2 weeks because I've been focussing on looking for a job.
I signed yesterday and start next friday december 1st. So looking forward to that!
Anyway that's the reason I have not been active lately. I'll keep trying to improve at poker but I'll have less time. But I'll still be around.
I'll be earning more soon though
Thank you all for your advice and support so far!
And see you soon!
It's been 2 weeks because I've been focussing on looking for a job.
I signed yesterday and start next friday december 1st. So looking forward to that!
Anyway that's the reason I have not been active lately. I'll keep trying to improve at poker but I'll have less time. But I'll still be around.
I'll be earning more soon though
Thank you all for your advice and support so far!
And see you soon!
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Supmargy
Visionary
Silver Level
Hi all!
So I'm a week in the netherlands for work, and in the evening I don't have much to do so here I am again! I'm gonna go eat something in a bit, but I played a couple of hands I wanted feedback on.I do not have PT4 on this pc, so I'll type it out manually. DOn't have stats either, but I'm playing 2NL zoom so it doesn't matter that much.
Hand 1:
Hero (MP) has AsQd
Villain (UTG) raises to 2BB
Hero Raises to 6 BB.
Fold .... Villain calls.
Pot 13.5BB
Flop Ad9cTc
Villain checks, Hero bets 7BB, villain raises to 32BB.
Hero???
Hand 2: K4 of spades in the BB
BTN open raises to 2 BB, call, Hero calls.
Pot 6BB.
Flop 9c5hKh.
Check, check, raise 4.5BB, call, Hero???
Apparently I cant use the spoiler tag for some reason. Also the layout looks a bit different. Don't know what's happening here...
So I'm a week in the netherlands for work, and in the evening I don't have much to do so here I am again! I'm gonna go eat something in a bit, but I played a couple of hands I wanted feedback on.I do not have PT4 on this pc, so I'll type it out manually. DOn't have stats either, but I'm playing 2NL zoom so it doesn't matter that much.
Hand 1:
Hero (MP) has AsQd
Villain (UTG) raises to 2BB
Hero Raises to 6 BB.
Fold .... Villain calls.
Pot 13.5BB
Flop Ad9cTc
Villain checks, Hero bets 7BB, villain raises to 32BB.
Hero???
Hand 2: K4 of spades in the BB
BTN open raises to 2 BB, call, Hero calls.
Pot 6BB.
Flop 9c5hKh.
Check, check, raise 4.5BB, call, Hero???
Apparently I cant use the spoiler tag for some reason. Also the layout looks a bit different. Don't know what's happening here...
Beanfacekilla
Legend
Silver Level
A-Qo, considering the stakes, and this is 3b pot, I would fold. I would think V has 2p+ here. We don't even have club blocker, Ac would be handy here. Edit.... 3b bigger pre, but this is UTG open, so be careful here.
K-4 in BB fold pre. Just too loose. We could 3b pre, and check call flop on this particular board perhaps. I just like folding pre though.
S
Supmargy
Visionary
Silver Level
I figured since we had to pay 1 bb to maybe win 6 we had the equity to call. Then probably fold unless we hit 2 spades on the flop.
But then the K came on the flop, and I started hesitating.
I ended up folding both hands.
Beanfacekilla
Legend
Silver Level
There is alot of this going around, the price we are getting, etc. I feel the fact that we are OOP with a hand that doesn't really flop well kind of makes the price we get irrelevant. It's just trouble waiting to happen.
I personally feel alot of hands go wrong by the simple decision to call pre, play OOP, and then it just opens the door up for more mistakes and tough spots ahead....