Let's try to become a winning player

Supmargy · Dec 21, 2017

Beanfacekilla said:
There is alot of this going around, the price we are getting, etc. I feel the fact that we are OOP with a hand that doesn't really flop well kind of makes the price we get irrelevant. It's just trouble waiting to happen.

I personally feel alot of hands go wrong by the simple decision to call pre, play OOP, and then it just opens the door up for more mistakes and tough spots ahead....

Good point. Thank you for the advice.

On topic of being OOP. I just played a hand where I had KhQh in the BB.
UTG raises 3x BB, MP reraises to 9BB. Do we fold or flat here?

Beanfacekilla · Dec 21, 2017

Supmargy said:
Good point. Thank you for the advice.

On topic of being OOP. I just played a hand where I had KhQh in the BB.
UTG raises 3x BB, MP reraises to 9BB. Do we fold or flat here?

First of all, I play live, so my advice may not be geared for online play.

I fold there.

Supmargy · Dec 21, 2017

Beanfacekilla said:
First of all, I play live, so my advice may not be geared for online play.

I fold there.

Have you ever played online though? I feel like you've been playing for so long that even if you play most of your games live, you could still take that knowledge and beat the stakes I'm playing at online. I might be wrong, but to me it really seems like you know what you're doing! It's not random advice, it's thought through.
So keep it coming

Beanfacekilla · Dec 21, 2017

Supmargy said:
Have you ever played online though? I feel like you've been playing for so long that even if you play most of your games live, you could still take that knowledge and beat the stakes I'm playing at online. I might be wrong, but to me it really seems like you know what you're doing! It's not random advice, it's thought through.
So keep it coming

Yeah I have played online. To be honest, I just can't take it seriously. It's not that I'm above it or it's not enough money for me or whatever, it just doesn't feel like real poker. The way that I shine at live poker is by reading people. It's like I'm blind on the internet.

And the reason I fold king queen there, is because it could get 4b after you call, and that sucks. But mostly, because we will be playing big pot OOP, and we miss flop 2/3 of the time.

If you had a read, like EP is out of line, and EP is a fish, and LP recognizes this, and he is 3b light, we could 4b. But TBH, that's pretty unlikely at these stakes anyway probably. So I just fold pre to avoid the tough spots that will await us on the flop.

Supmargy · Dec 27, 2017

New day new hand!

I was wondering how you guys would play this:

Hero has KK in the BB.
Fold, Villain (MP) raises to 3bb, Fold, Fold, Fold, Hero Raises to 10 BB (should be more maybe?), Call.

Flop comes KK5.

Do we bet or trap here?
Chances are he'll fold if he doesnt have a pp. But we're missing a chance to increase the pot size if we do bet.

Any thoughts?

Alucard · Dec 27, 2017

depends on stack depth & the V. some will barrel & some will check/fold

Beanfacekilla · Dec 27, 2017

Supmargy said:
New day new hand!

I was wondering how you guys would play this:

Hero has KK in the BB.
Fold, Villain (MP) raises to 3bb, Fold, Fold, Fold, Hero Raises to 10 BB (should be more maybe?), Call.

Flop comes KK5.

Do we bet or trap here?
Chances are he'll fold if he doesnt have a pp. But we're missing a chance to increase the pot size if we do bet.

Any thoughts?

Check. For sure check. There are exceptions, but yeah I just check.

braveslice · Dec 27, 2017

Supmargy said:
Do we bet or trap here?
Chances are he'll fold if he doesnt have a pp. But we're missing a chance to increase the pot size if we do bet.

Somewhat annoying situation because you can’t really make money and we have so good hand, sight. Two ways making good profit a) opponent decides to go mental b) opponent is nonbeliever

Now against both a) and b) I think CB is the way to go, luckily 6max has both. I would always bet if opponent is has somewhat funny stats. But the trick here is to give aggressive ones room to go mental, so checking turn or betting small to give them a reason to fire is the key. By betting normally they just fold. And non believers by default call with any pair, if you don’t ask too much, even 3 streets.

Against scared one I would no CB, but if they don’t bet themselves making more than one street is great achievement. Even against tag I would CB and hope he has TT+ he will call turn, and if lucky turn or river. But given you mostly get one street, it’s good not to CB if there is even hint of aggression on the villain, maybe A hits. Not sure if you supposed just check turn A, because he should fire 2street with A, against other cards its scary card.

I wouldn’t use term trap, because hero is just hoping villain don’t fold =)

But if you win large, it’s all about luck, so doesn’t matter really what you do.

Random thoughs. I know checking is default line used by most, but given so many go mental on paired board, betting is never wrong either imo at 2NL or 5NL 6max.

Supmargy · Dec 27, 2017

Thanks for the advice everyone. I ended up betting for value and he folded.
Today was a really good day. Went from 130$ to 159$. Largest jump ive ever had in a day by far. So far it seems like 5nl suits me better than 2nl. Even when my bankroll didnt allow it, my shots at 5nl were almost all successful. And it doesnt really seem to stop. I havent had a really bad session like ive had with 2nl.

braveslice · Dec 28, 2017

Supmargy said:
Today was a really good day. Went from 130$ to 159$.

Nicely done, almost 6BI upswing. Sounds promising both for you and Alu.

Regarding KK hand, I made a new rule for myself TAG_wannabe check - funny Bet and notes are deciding factor as always if I have those. Hmm maybe some kind of autonotes about behavior on paired board would be cool.

Supmargy · Jan 9, 2018

Hey all! I've been a bit busy lately, but I've installed PT4 on this pc, and I'm 3 weeks in the netherlands, so I'm gonna play some more the coming weeks. Don't mind the player stats. I was playing zoom with a freshly installed PT4. So way too small sample size.

Anyway. Here are some intersting hands, and a graph! I got quite lucky!!

Hand 1: Jesus the spoiler tag still doesn't work?? I have to type it manually....

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 102.8 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
SB: 219.4 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 420.8 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
MP: 154.8 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
CO: 103.2 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A:club: 8:club:

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.4 BB, fold, Hero calls 1.4 BB

Flop: (5.2 BB, 2 players) J:diamond: T:club: 8:diamond:
Hero checks, BTN bets 3.2 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold

Hero wins 11.2 BB

Hand 2: So this is probably EV- in the long run isnt it?

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 50.6 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
SB: 173.6 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
BB: 100 BB
Hero (UTG): 102.8 BB
MP: 162.6 BB
CO: 95.6 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Q:club: A:club:

Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, CO raises to 10.4 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 7.4 BB

Flop: (22.2 BB, 2 players) 4:spade: 7:club: 5:club:
Hero checks, CO bets 16 BB, Hero calls 16 BB

Turn: (54.2 BB, 2 players) 9:heart:
Hero checks, CO bets 34.6 BB, Hero raises to 76.4 BB and is all-in, fold

Hero wins 118.2 BB

Hand 3:

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
SB: 76.8 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
Hero (BB): 125.8 BB
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
MP: 106.6 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
CO: 216.6 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 4)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K:spade: K:club:

fold, MP raises to 2 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 7 BB, MP calls 5 BB

Flop: (14.4 BB, 2 players) 9:diamond: K:heart: A:heart:
Hero checks, MP bets 7 BB, Hero calls 7 BB

Turn: (28.4 BB, 2 players) 5:heart:
Hero checks, MP bets 13.6 BB, Hero calls 13.6 BB

River: (55.6 BB, 2 players) 4:diamond:
Hero bets 22 BB, MP calls 22 BB

Hero shows K:spade: K:club: (Three of a Kind, Kings)
(Pre 71%, Flop 87%, Turn 75%)
MP mucks A:spade: 9:heart: (Two Pair, Aces and Nines)
(Pre 29%, Flop 13%, Turn 25%)
Hero wins 95.4 BB

Supmargy · Jan 9, 2018

For those who are wondering. Bankroll is sitting at a comfortable 160$. Lost some cash in the last couple of weeks. Didn't get lucky at all. But tonight my luck showed up big time.

Supmargy · Jan 16, 2018

Hi all! Another decent short session. Didn't earn much, but I ran badly so it's ok. Roll at 163$ I think.
There's a hand I wanted to have some feedback on. Any other way to play this?

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB
Hero (SB): 140.8 BB
BB: 137.2 BB
UTG: 107.8 BB (VPIP: -, PFR: -, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
MP: 127.2 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
CO: 202.8 BB

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A:diamond: J:diamond:

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.4 BB, Hero raises to 8 BB, BB calls 7 BB, BTN calls 5.6 BB

Flop: (24 BB, 3 players) 8:club: A:spade: 2:heart:
Hero bets 14 BB, BB calls 14 BB, fold

Turn: (52 BB, 2 players) 3:spade:
Hero checks, BB checks

River: (52 BB, 2 players) 6:diamond:
Hero bets 20 BB, BB calls 20 BB

Hero shows A:diamond: J:diamond: (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 74%, Flop 86%, Turn 93%)
BB shows A:heart: 6:spade: (Two Pair, Aces and Sixes)
(Pre 26%, Flop 14%, Turn 7%)
BB wins 88.2 BB

Also can someone review my previous 3 hands if you've got some time? I'm curious about those. Thanks in advance!

Beanfacekilla · Jan 16, 2018

Supmargy said:
Hi all! Another decent short session. Didn't earn much, but I ran badly so it's ok. Roll at 163$ I think.
There's a hand I wanted to have some feedback on. Any other way to play this?

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB
Hero (SB): 140.8 BB
BB: 137.2 BB
UTG: 107.8 BB (VPIP: -, PFR: -, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
MP: 127.2 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
CO: 202.8 BB

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A♦ J♦

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.4 BB, Hero raises to 8 BB, BB calls 7 BB, BTN calls 5.6 BB

Flop: (24 BB, 3 players) 8♣ A♠ 2♥
Hero bets 14 BB, BB calls 14 BB, fold

Turn: (52 BB, 2 players) 3♠
Hero checks, BB checks

River: (52 BB, 2 players) 6♦
Hero bets 20 BB, BB calls 20 BB

Hero shows A♦ J♦ (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 74%, Flop 86%, Turn 93%)
BB shows A♥ 6♠ (Two Pair, Aces and Sixes)
(Pre 26%, Flop 14%, Turn 7%)
BB wins 88.2 BB

Also can someone review my previous 3 hands if you've got some time? I'm curious about those. Thanks in advance!

It's a 2 street value hand, considering run out. I may check flop, and may bet also. In 3b pot as you were, I prob check flop, and call. Let them have room to value own themselves, misrepresent our hand, etc.

Your line is fine, I just prefer checking flop 3w here.

Beanfacekilla · Jan 16, 2018

Supmargy said:
Hey all! I've been a bit busy lately, but I've installed PT4 on this pc, and I'm 3 weeks in the netherlands, so I'm gonna play some more the coming weeks. Don't mind the player stats. I was playing zoom with a freshly installed PT4. So way too small sample size.

Anyway. Here are some intersting hands, and a graph! I got quite lucky!!

Hand 1: Jesus the spoiler tag still doesn't work?? I have to type it manually....

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 102.8 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
SB: 219.4 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 420.8 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
MP: 154.8 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
CO: 103.2 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A♣ 8♣

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.4 BB, fold, Hero calls 1.4 BB

Flop: (5.2 BB, 2 players) J♦ T♣ 8♦
Hero checks, BTN bets 3.2 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold

Hero wins 11.2 BB

Hand 2: So this is probably EV- in the long run isnt it?

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 50.6 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
SB: 173.6 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
BB: 100 BB
Hero (UTG): 102.8 BB
MP: 162.6 BB
CO: 95.6 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Q♣ A♣

Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, CO raises to 10.4 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 7.4 BB

Flop: (22.2 BB, 2 players) 4♠ 7♣ 5♣
Hero checks, CO bets 16 BB, Hero calls 16 BB

Turn: (54.2 BB, 2 players) 9♥
Hero checks, CO bets 34.6 BB, Hero raises to 76.4 BB and is all-in, fold

Hero wins 118.2 BB

Hand 3:

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
SB: 76.8 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
Hero (BB): 125.8 BB
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
MP: 106.6 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
CO: 216.6 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 4)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K♠ K♣

fold, MP raises to 2 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 7 BB, MP calls 5 BB

Flop: (14.4 BB, 2 players) 9♦ K♥ A♥
Hero checks, MP bets 7 BB, Hero calls 7 BB

Turn: (28.4 BB, 2 players) 5♥
Hero checks, MP bets 13.6 BB, Hero calls 13.6 BB

River: (55.6 BB, 2 players) 4♦
Hero bets 22 BB, MP calls 22 BB

Hero shows K♠ K♣ (Three of a Kind, Kings)
(Pre 71%, Flop 87%, Turn 75%)
MP mucks A♠ 9♥ (Two Pair, Aces and Nines)
(Pre 29%, Flop 13%, Turn 25%)
Hero wins 95.4 BB

Hand 1: Why are you check raising flop 8-9-10 with A-8cc? you have back door FD, and bottom pair, and very little chance of improving on a wet-ish board. If called, and we don't improve on the turn, what is your plan?

Are we bluffing here with A-8cc, or are we trying to get value? What is the purpose of the check raise? Answer that question, and maybe you know how to play hand a little better next time (IMO it's not ideal line here).

Hand 2: I am personally C/R flop here, and just fist pump, run around the room and hi-five, getting it in on that board if dude gives action. He probably just folds to C/R anyways, and we win. Flop is bad for his range, IMO. As played, not bad anyways, but I c/r flop though.

Hand 3: 3b bigger pre. 8 or 9 BB. Bet flop, bet turn, bet river. Don't check. Bet flop. We aren't in the business of giving out free cards to opponents to chop our head off with J-10/Q-10/FD/etc. Bet/bet/bet/ As it was, dude smashed flop, and we prob make more money if we stop FPS and just bet our hand (results oriented maybe, but ya know, good flop for you and a callers range as well). I really don't like C/C on that board. C/r as played, we want to be inflating pot, not checking and pot controlling. The reason I say bet is because we don't want to C/R and blow dude off his hand, and we don't want to lose a street of value/give out free shots at equity by checking.

Bet dude. bet bet bet.

Ok, take it with a grain of salt, hope my advice helps you in some way.

Narcotic35 · Jan 19, 2018

Thanks for the hands

Hi there, thanks for posting sop man y interesting hands. And more so even, thanks for the analysis and tips. I am playing micros as well and have been encountering very similar problems. Especially not to give up a hand when I am way behind - which is what has been ruining me bankroll. In other terms I think I am relatively on track....

I guess it is time to deposit and enforce more tilt-control :elefant:

Hope to read from you again in the coming days.

Narcotic35 · Jan 24, 2018

Hi all, I would appreciate your thoughts on this hand and if you have any advice how to play it better:

Jivaro doesn't allow me to post directly here, so I only have a video link:
https://www.jivaro.com/profile/Narcotic35/posts/5a68a076ea40e0d7060556bd/

I wrote the whole hand down manually a minute ago and the submission crashed, so here is the short version:

6-max PS Zoom NL2

I had no relevant reads or stats on this opponent. His hand was Ad Kh.

Should I have made a 3-bet pre-flop? I was OOP and did not want to risk a 4-bet with a good but vulnerable hand.

Should I have bet on the turn directly? I planned to see if he barrels (indicating a full house, overpair or set) or possibly re-raise.

When the river came was the bet too large (ca 3/4 of pot)?

Thanks for your thoughts!

P.S.: I am not going to continue with Jivaro after the trial period. Too many inconveniences. I will be posting proper hands then

grogrich · Jan 25, 2018

I mix up my c-bets from 45% to 2/3,,,you would`t believe how many folds i get with 45%.I find nothing a villian hates more then being `fished` along,,,but when to do it takes experience and yes,i can see it being exploited.

Klito · Jan 25, 2018

You have to play good poker and give your best When you play good winnings will come in the long term

Supmargy · Jun 9, 2018

It's been a while but I'm kinda back

I'm really rusty though, and my play is quite undisciplined. I've also probably forgotten quite a few things so feedback is welcome!

Here are some hands I'd like to discuss if anyone is still following!

Hand 1: I felt like a reraise on the river would only be called if I were beaten, which is why I called.

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 112 BB
SB: 47.5 BB
BB: 102 BB
UTG: 111 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 8)
MP: 116 BB
CO: 114.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q♣ K♦

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, MP calls 6 BB

Flop: (19.5 BB, 2 players) J♠ Q♠ 6♦
MP bets 9.5 BB, Hero calls 9.5 BB

Turn: (38.5 BB, 2 players) Q♦
MP bets 18.5 BB, Hero calls 18.5 BB

River: (75.5 BB, 2 players) T♣
MP bets 9 BB, Hero calls 9 BB

Result:

MP shows T♦ 9♠ (Two Pair, Queens and Tens)
(Pre 36%, Flop 32%, Turn 9%)
Hero shows Q♣ K♦ (Three of a Kind, Queens)
(Pre 64%, Flop 68%, Turn 91%)
Hero wins 90 BB

Hand 2: It worked out this time but I shouldn't play it like that should I?

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 67.5 BB (VPIP: 21.43, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 14)
SB: 130 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
BB: 145 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 16.09, PFR: 12.64, 3Bet Preflop: 6.45, Hands: 90)
Hero (CO): 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A♣ Q♠

UTG raises to 4 BB, fold, Hero calls 4 BB, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (9.5 BB, 2 players) 7♣ 5♠ 5♣
UTG bets 6 BB, Hero calls 6 BB

Turn: (21.5 BB, 2 players) 6♣
UTG bets 13.5 BB, Hero calls 13.5 BB

River: (48.5 BB, 2 players) 2♣
UTG checks, Hero bets 20 BB, fold

Hero wins 47 BB

Hand 3: Should I be more agressive in spots like these?

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 105.5 BB
SB: 157 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
BB: 344.5 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
UTG: 74 BB
MP: 100 BB
CO: 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K♦ Q♥

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, SB calls 2.5 BB, fold

Flop: (7 BB, 2 players) K♣ 4♥ 3♦
SB bets 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB

Turn: (13 BB, 2 players) 2♠
SB bets 9 BB, Hero calls 9 BB

River: (31 BB, 2 players) 5♣
SB bets 14 BB, Hero calls 14 BB

SB shows J♦ A♠ (Straight, Five High)
(Pre 59%, Flop 15%, Turn 16%)
Hero mucks K♦ Q♥ (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 41%, Flop 85%, Turn 84%)
SB wins 57 BB

Supmargy · Jun 12, 2018

I've got a general question:

Zoom: Players are unknown.
Stacks are 100BB+
We're in the SB or BB with low to middle PP (22-99).
Fold ; Fold ; UTG raises 3x BB ; BTN Raises 9x BB.

What do we do here?
Do we act differently with low pairs than with middle pairs?

JustSoPro · Jun 12, 2018

Honestly, I would probably fold.
With the 9BB bet pre, you will still have 10BB behind which means it IS profitable to set mine(assuming you can get your opponent all in), but all the conditions would have to be right, they would have to go all in if you hit your set AND BB would have to not 4bet. If the villain doesn't stack up your set or if sb 4bets, it's a losing play here(Plus your opponent will sometimes have a higher set, a flush draw/straight may be on the board, etc.).

JustSoPro · Jun 12, 2018

Supmargy said:
It's been a while but I'm kinda back I'm really rusty though, and my play is quite undisciplined. I've also probably forgotten quite a few things so feedback is welcome!

Here are some hands I'd like to discuss if anyone is still following!

Hand 1: I felt like a reraise on the river would only be called if I were beaten, which is why I called.

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 112 BB
SB: 47.5 BB
BB: 102 BB
UTG: 111 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 8)
MP: 116 BB
CO: 114.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q♣ K♦

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, MP calls 6 BB

Flop: (19.5 BB, 2 players) J♠ Q♠ 6♦
MP bets 9.5 BB, Hero calls 9.5 BB

Turn: (38.5 BB, 2 players) Q♦
MP bets 18.5 BB, Hero calls 18.5 BB

River: (75.5 BB, 2 players) T♣
MP bets 9 BB, Hero calls 9 BB

Result:

MP shows T♦ 9♠ (Two Pair, Queens and Tens)
(Pre 36%, Flop 32%, Turn 9%)
Hero shows Q♣ K♦ (Three of a Kind, Queens)
(Pre 64%, Flop 68%, Turn 91%)
Hero wins 90 BB

Hand 2: It worked out this time but I shouldn't play it like that should I?

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 67.5 BB (VPIP: 21.43, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 14)
SB: 130 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
BB: 145 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 16.09, PFR: 12.64, 3Bet Preflop: 6.45, Hands: 90)
Hero (CO): 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A♣ Q♠

UTG raises to 4 BB, fold, Hero calls 4 BB, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (9.5 BB, 2 players) 7♣ 5♠ 5♣
UTG bets 6 BB, Hero calls 6 BB

Turn: (21.5 BB, 2 players) 6♣
UTG bets 13.5 BB, Hero calls 13.5 BB

River: (48.5 BB, 2 players) 2♣
UTG checks, Hero bets 20 BB, fold

Hero wins 47 BB

Hand 3: Should I be more agressive in spots like these?

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 105.5 BB
SB: 157 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
BB: 344.5 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
UTG: 74 BB
MP: 100 BB
CO: 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K♦ Q♥

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, SB calls 2.5 BB, fold

Flop: (7 BB, 2 players) K♣ 4♥ 3♦
SB bets 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB

Turn: (13 BB, 2 players) 2♠
SB bets 9 BB, Hero calls 9 BB

River: (31 BB, 2 players) 5♣
SB bets 14 BB, Hero calls 14 BB

SB shows J♦ A♠ (Straight, Five High)
(Pre 59%, Flop 15%, Turn 16%)
Hero mucks K♦ Q♥ (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 41%, Flop 85%, Turn 84%)
SB wins 57 BB

Hand 1:
Hand 1, I would raise the flop, you are in position have top pair with a good kicker AND you have no spade on a spade draw/straight draw board. I would probably raise again or bet heavily on the turn and river.
Hand 2:
Hand 2, you should be re-raising the villain on the flop, you have a back door flush draw, two overcards AND position on a weak board. Calling on the turn was fine as you still had a Q high flush draw. On the river, you are betting too much, the villain would have to be a complete calling station for you to get any value out of that, more likely you are paying someone off with the A of clubs or K of clubs. If you are going to go for value on the river, maybe bet 10-15ish so some lower clubs/bluff catchers can call here.
Hand 3:
I like the way you played, the villain just got lucky on the turn and river. Just write it off as a cooler

Beanfacekilla · Jun 12, 2018

Supmargy said:
I've got a general question:

Zoom: Players are unknown.
Stacks are 100BB+
We're in the SB or BB with low to middle PP (22-99).
Fold ; Fold ; UTG raises 3x BB ; BTN Raises 9x BB.

What do we do here?
Do we act differently with low pairs than with middle pairs?

Fold. Next hand. We are cold calling if we do, and UTG may 4b. odds are barely there, assuming we call.

Supmargy · Jun 13, 2018

Beanfacekilla said:
Fold. Next hand. We are cold calling if we do, and UTG may 4b. Odds are barely there, assuming we call.

Hi Bean! Long time no see! Thanks for the reply. I figured it'd be a fold. But i wanted to be sure!!

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