I can't beat $10NL

[aliengenius]

Not to say there wasn't some horrible play by me as well:

fulltiltpoker Game #5476571680: Table Sunrise Skyline - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:28:21 ET - 2008/03/02
Seat 1: drweinfish ($4.05)
Seat 2: KleinAndreiii ($1.95)
Seat 3: DDuece ($2.90)
Seat 4: prorpm119 ($6.75)
Seat 5: frishy32 ($3.30)
Seat 6: aliengenius ($9.90)
Seat 7: nightaday ($12.30)
Seat 8: Cowboywillie ($4.15)
Seat 9: schlaffi66 ($18.55)
frishy32 posts the small blind of $0.05
aliengenius posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to aliengenius [7h 7c]
nightaday folds
Cowboywillie calls $0.10
schlaffi66 raises to $0.45
drweinfish is sitting out
drweinfish folds
KleinAndreiii folds
DDuece folds
prorpm119 has 15 seconds left to act
prorpm119 folds
frishy32 folds
aliengenius calls $0.35
Cowboywillie calls $0.35
*** FLOP *** [9d 2d 5d]
aliengenius checks
Cowboywillie checks
schlaffi66 bets $0.30
aliengenius raises to $1
Cowboywillie calls $1
schlaffi66 calls $0.70
*** TURN *** [9d 2d 5d] [Kc]
aliengenius checks
Cowboywillie bets $1.70
schlaffi66 folds
aliengenius raises to $8.45, and is all in
Cowboywillie calls $1, and is all in
aliengenius shows [7h 7c]
Cowboywillie shows [Kd Qd]
Uncalled bet of $5.75 returned to aliengenius
*** RIVER *** [9d 2d 5d Kc] [3s]
aliengenius shows a pair of Sevens
Cowboywillie shows a flush, King high
Cowboywillie wins the pot ($8.85) with a flush, King high
aliengenius adds $4.25
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $9.80 | Rake $0.95
Board: [9d 2d 5d Kc 3s]
Seat 1: drweinfish didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: KleinAndreiii didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: DDuece didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: prorpm119 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: frishy32 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: aliengenius (big blind) showed [7h 7c] and lost with a pair of Sevens
Seat 7: nightaday didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: Cowboywillie showed [Kd Qd] and won ($8.85) with a flush, King high
Seat 9: schlaffi66 folded on the Turn

 

[aliengenius]

A bit of a cooler, I guess. I have actually been trying to consciously trying to value bet rivers a bit more, lol:

FullTiltPoker Game #5475091239: Table Abercorn - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:34:52 ET - 2008/03/02
Seat 1: Manxome ($10)
Seat 2: NHMF ($0.60)
Seat 3: drtiehead ($8.80)
Seat 4: JaviRecaudador ($1.80)
Seat 5: pocketfish007 ($10.05)
Seat 6: verleihenix ($9.90)
Seat 7: suepil53 ($4.20)
Seat 8: aliengenius ($10)
Seat 9: DrSpald ($7.50)
drtiehead posts the small blind of $0.05
JaviRecaudador posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to aliengenius [9d Ad]
pocketfish007 has 15 seconds left to act
pocketfish007 folds
verleihenix has 15 seconds left to act
verleihenix calls $0.10
suepil53 calls $0.10
aliengenius calls $0.10
DrSpald folds
Manxome folds
NHMF folds
drtiehead calls $0.05
JaviRecaudador has 15 seconds left to act
JaviRecaudador checks
*** FLOP *** [5s 6d As]
drtiehead checks
JaviRecaudador checks
verleihenix checks
suepil53 checks
aliengenius checks
*** TURN *** [5s 6d As] [Qd]
drtiehead checks
JaviRecaudador checks
verleihenix bets $0.30
suepil53 calls $0.30
aliengenius raises to $1.70
drtiehead folds
JaviRecaudador has 15 seconds left to act
JaviRecaudador folds
verleihenix calls $1.40
suepil53 has 15 seconds left to act
suepil53 folds
*** RIVER *** [5s 6d As Qd] [7h]
verleihenix checks
aliengenius has 15 seconds left to act
aliengenius bets $4.20
verleihenix calls $4.20
*** SHOW DOWN ***
aliengenius shows [9d Ad] a pair of Aces
verleihenix shows [Ah 6h] two pair, Aces and Sixes
verleihenix wins the pot ($11.35) with two pair, Aces and Sixes
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $12.60 | Rake $1.25
Board: [5s 6d As Qd 7h]
Seat 1: Manxome didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: NHMF (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: drtiehead (small blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 4: JaviRecaudador (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 5: pocketfish007 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: verleihenix showed [Ah 6h] and won ($11.35) with two pair, Aces and Sixes
Seat 7: suepil53 folded on the Turn
Seat 8: aliengenius showed [9d Ad] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 9: DrSpald didn't bet (folded)

 

[aliengenius]

I try a little play on the flop, hoping maybe it will get me a free river card as well, oops.

FullTiltPoker Game #5475794933: Table La Jolla - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:28:58 ET - 2008/03/02
Seat 1: Stylopora ($4.85)
Seat 2: 50IFGAIAVIL ($18.50)
Seat 3: sucat ($2.80)
Seat 4: aliengenius ($13.95)
Seat 5: Billy58 ($0), is sitting out
Seat 6: graing18 ($3.85)
Seat 7: Latko28 ($3.45)
Seat 8: danks420 ($9.65)
Seat 9: mrkmcf ($2.90)
danks420 posts the small blind of $0.05
mrkmcf posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to aliengenius [9s As]
Stylopora calls $0.10
Billy58 stands up
50IFGAIAVIL folds
sucat calls $0.10
aliengenius calls $0.10
graing18 calls $0.10
Latko28 folds
danks420 calls $0.05
mrkmcf checks
*** FLOP *** [6s Ks Qc]
danks420 checks
mrkmcf checks
Stylopora bets $0.40
sucat calls $0.40
50IFGAIAVIL has been disconnected
50IFGAIAVIL has reconnected
aliengenius has 15 seconds left to act
joewils sits down
aliengenius raises to $1.20
graing18 folds
joewils adds $3
danks420 folds
mrkmcf folds
Stylopora raises to $4.75, and is all in
sucat calls $2.30, and is all in
aliengenius has 15 seconds left to act
aliengenius has requested TIME
aliengenius calls $3.55
Stylopora shows [6h Qh]
sucat shows [Kc 7h]
aliengenius shows [9s As]
*** TURN *** [6s Ks Qc] [9h]
*** RIVER *** [6s Ks Qc 9h] [2h]
Stylopora shows two pair, Queens and Sixes
aliengenius shows a pair of Nines
Stylopora wins the side pot ($3.70) with two pair, Queens and Sixes
sucat shows a pair of Kings
Stylopora wins the main pot ($7.85) with two pair, Queens and Sixes
sucat adds $2
sucat is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $12.80 Main pot $8.70. Side pot $4.10. | Rake $1.25
Board: [6s Ks Qc 9h 2h]
Seat 1: Stylopora showed [6h Qh] and won ($11.55) with two pair, Queens and Sixes
Seat 2: 50IFGAIAVIL didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: sucat showed [Kc 7h] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 4: aliengenius showed [9s As] and lost with a pair of Nines
Seat 5: Billy58 is sitting out
Seat 6: graing18 folded on the Flop
Seat 7: Latko28 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: danks420 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 9: mrkmcf (big blind) folded on the Flop

 

[aliengenius]

Put this guy on your buddy list, vp$ip of 90%, called every single flop bet no matter what he was holding. It's like his strategy was to see four cards no matter what, and call w ANY piece. Of course he left the table w almost $30. Anyway, I realize this isn't the greatest play by me either, but ... tilt a little .

FullTiltPoker Game #5474106904: Table Boulder - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 17:21:14 ET - 2008/03/02
Seat 1: loki116 ($11)
Seat 2: coax ($2)
Seat 3: FriedrichF ($1.80)
Seat 4: PIMPIN MAEZ ($8.50)
Seat 5: Prince_P123 ($10)
Seat 6: aliengenius ($9.85)
Seat 7: The Grosso ($1.20)
Seat 8: JustusH ($5.35)
Seat 9: 6ambIer ($8.15)
FriedrichF posts the small blind of $0.05
PIMPIN MAEZ posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to aliengenius [Ad Qs]
Prince_P123 folds
aliengenius raises to $0.35
The Grosso folds
JustusH folds
6ambIer calls $0.35
loki116 folds
FriedrichF folds
PIMPIN MAEZ folds
*** FLOP *** [9c 6h 4h]
aliengenius bets $0.70
6ambIer calls $0.70
*** TURN *** [9c 6h 4h] [Ts]
aliengenius bets $8.80, and is all in
6ambIer calls $7.10, and is all in
aliengenius shows [Ad Qs]
6ambIer shows [8s Jd]
Uncalled bet of $1.70 returned to aliengenius
*** RIVER *** [9c 6h 4h Ts] J♠
aliengenius shows Ace Queen high
6ambIer shows a pair of Jacks
6ambIer wins the pot ($14.85) with a pair of Jacks
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $16.45 | Rake $1.60
Board: [9c 6h 4h Ts Js]
Seat 1: loki116 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: coax is sitting out
Seat 3: FriedrichF (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: PIMPIN MAEZ (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: Prince_P123 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: aliengenius showed [Ad Qs] and lost with Ace Queen high
Seat 7: The Grosso didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: JustusH didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: 6ambIer showed [8s Jd] and won ($14.85) with a pair of Jacks

 

[aliengenius]

Add a few AK vs pairs that didn't go my way:

FullTiltPoker Game #5475902785: Table Invergordon - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:37:09 ET - 2008/03/02
Seat 1: rooruw ($9.70)
Seat 2: pacman38 ($2)
Seat 3: joewils ($2.90)
Seat 4: Gimmeabreakkk ($6.50), is sitting out
Seat 5: msh34 ($7.90)
Seat 6: aliengenius ($9.35)
Seat 7: ThePhantum ($3.70)
Seat 8: happyglen ($1.65)
Seat 9: BigSD ($3.75)
rooruw posts the small blind of $0.05
pacman38 posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to aliengenius [Ah Kc]
joewils calls $0.10
msh34 folds
aliengenius raises to $0.45
ThePhantum calls $0.45
happyglen folds
BigSD folds
rooruw has 15 seconds left to act
rooruw folds
pacman38 raises to $2, and is all in
joewils has 15 seconds left to act
joewils is sitting out
joewils has timed out
joewils folds
joewils has returned
aliengenius raises to $9.35, and is all in
ThePhantum calls $3.25, and is all in
aliengenius shows [Ah Kc]
ThePhantum shows [Qc Qh]
pacman38 shows [8d 9d]
Uncalled bet of $5.65 returned to aliengenius
*** FLOP *** [Js Jd 6d]
*** TURN *** [Js Jd 6d] [2h]
*** RIVER *** [Js Jd 6d 2h] [8c]
aliengenius shows a pair of Jacks
ThePhantum shows two pair, Queens and Jacks
ThePhantum wins the side pot ($3.05) with two pair, Queens and Jacks
pacman38 shows two pair, Jacks and Eights
ThePhantum wins the main pot ($5.55) with two pair, Queens and Jacks
pacman38 is sitting out
aliengenius adds $4.35
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $9.55 Main pot $6.15. Side pot $3.40. | Rake $0.95
Board: [Js Jd 6d 2h 8c]
Seat 1: rooruw (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: pacman38 (big blind) showed [8d 9d] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Eights
Seat 3: joewils folded before the Flop
Seat 4: Gimmeabreakkk is sitting out
Seat 5: msh34 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: aliengenius showed [Ah Kc] and lost with a pair of Jacks
Seat 7: ThePhantum showed [Qc Qh] and won ($8.60) with two pair, Queens and Jacks
Seat 8: happyglen didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: BigSD (button) didn't bet (folded)

and

FullTiltPoker Game #5475943235: Table La Jolla - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:40:15 ET - 2008/03/02
Seat 1: Stylopora ($11.60)
Seat 2: Cytron007 ($9.90)
Seat 3: IlliniDave ($4.75)
Seat 4: aliengenius ($10)
Seat 5: IdahoSteeli ($10)
Seat 6: graing18 ($4.45)
Seat 7: Latko28 ($2.90)
Seat 8: danks420 ($11.15)
Seat 9: mrkmcf ($4.15)
Cytron007 posts the small blind of $0.05
IlliniDave posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to aliengenius [Ac Ks]
aliengenius raises to $0.35
graing18 folds
Latko28 calls $0.35
danks420 folds
mrkmcf folds
Stylopora folds
Cytron007 has 15 seconds left to act
Cytron007 raises to $1.40
IlliniDave folds
aliengenius has 15 seconds left to act
aliengenius raises to $10, and is all in
Latko28 calls $2.55, and is all in
Cytron007 has 15 seconds left to act
Cytron007 folds
aliengenius shows [Ac Ks]
Latko28 shows [6d 6h]
Uncalled bet of $7.10 returned to aliengenius
*** FLOP *** [5s 9d 6c]
*** TURN *** [5s 9d 6c] [4d]
*** RIVER *** [5s 9d 6c 4d] [Qs]
aliengenius shows Ace King high
Latko28 shows three of a kind, Sixes
Latko28 wins the pot ($6.60) with three of a kind, Sixes
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $7.30 | Rake $0.70
Board: [5s 9d 6c 4d Qs]
Seat 1: Stylopora (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: Cytron007 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: IlliniDave (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: aliengenius showed [Ac Ks] and lost with Ace King high
Seat 5: IdahoSteeli is sitting out
Seat 6: graing18 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: Latko28 showed [6d 6h] and won ($6.60) with three of a kind, Sixes
Seat 8: danks420 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: mrkmcf didn't bet (folded)

 

[Emperor IX]

Trying too hard to play poker still. Just sit back, wait for sets/AA/KK/QQ/AK.

10nl isn't poker, it's a money farm

 

[NoWuckingFurries]

Ahh.

By fully raked, I meant raked at the full 5 or 10 percent, not capped. At the higher limits, the cap has a way of softening the punch. When your at $100 table or higher, capped at $3 most rakes will be maxed out essentially lowering the rake to pot ratio to less than the full percentage. Not so at .05/.10. If the rake is 10%, that's what they take.

Oh OK, thanks, that makes more sense to me now - big difference in rake, no wonder they offer rakeback deals, they can afford to!

 

[Deathwish238]

Looks to me like you're reraising all in with nothing too often. When they're not folding to big bets even though they have nothing themselves...I just don't even both trying to bluff at all.

Perhaps you'll have more luck at $5 NL or $25 NL like I do. People seem to be better players that know when to fold more often. Also, play shorthanded instead longhanded.

 

[Emperor IX]

Looks to me like you're reraising all in with nothing too often. When they're not folding to big bets even though they have nothing themselves...I just don't even both trying to bluff at all.

Perhaps you'll have more luck at $5 NL or $25 NL like I do. People seem to be better players that know when to fold more often. Also, play shorthanded instead longhanded.

I don't know about 25nl (I've had some nasty experiences there) but you're definitely right about $5nl. I gotta disagree with you about short/long. The reason being that since we're going to be playing so tight, we kinda need the extra three opponents so that there''s a better chance we'll get some action on our bigger hands.

 

[zachvac]

I remember having this discussion awhile ago, where one poster claimed that anyone who could beat better players could beat worse players. The logic behind it was that if someone can win at higher levels and be using 3rd or 4th level thinking, that it shouldn't be hard for them to realize that they need to adapt and just use 2nd level thinking against people thinking on the 1st level.

This stood out right here: "Ok, this guy just can't fold ATo, no pair, no draw, but what am I supposed to do, just check and give up on the hand? Position and aggression are meaningless at this level, it really is just the cards?"

As you can see, you'll be reaching showdown much more often than you're probably used to meaning having a hand is that much more important. You're not playing against good players and if you try to act as if you are you're going to get burned as you were in a lot of these hands.

And of course this could be part of it: "FullTiltPoker Game #5472841218: Table Railbirds.com - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 15:47:55 ET - 2008/03/02"

but in all seriousness if your opponents aren't looking at anything other than their cards, and seeing "OOH OOH GUT SHOT I CAN'T FOLD THAT", then a bluff isn't going to work. The other side of the coin is your value bets will be paid off like crazy. You know you shouldn't be bluffing at these people, you just can't help yourself. Bluffing at a calling station is really no better than chasing a flush draw without odds or any other form of throwing money away.

Just tighten up preflop, you can probably try a cbet if you miss but if it is called you pretty much have to give up there, and just value bet the shit out of the hands you hit. That AT would have paid you off if you had a set as well, he couldn't see your cards.

 

[zachvac]

I don't know about 25nl (I've had some nasty experiences there) but you're definitely right about $5nl. I gotta disagree with you about short/long. The reason being that since we're going to be playing so tight, we kinda need the extra three opponents so that there''s a better chance we'll get some action on our bigger hands.

Wait, you're saying 5nl players are better than 10nl players?

 

[Emperor IX]

Wait, you're saying 5nl players are better than 10nl players?

They're nittier because it's their whole roll.

 

[aliengenius]

The railbirds table is always the juiciest one, with at least 35%+ seeing the flop.

 

[zachvac]

The railbirds table is always the juiciest one, with at least 35%+ seeing the flop.

lol, so if the railbirds table is always the worst, does that mean that joining railbirds actually makes you worse or does it just attract the worst players out of the general population?

 

[aliengenius]

lol, so if the railbirds table is always the worst, does that mean that joining railbirds actually makes you worse or does it just attract the worst players out of the general population?

Who can tell the causalities of donkeys...

 

[4Aces]

They're nittier because it's their whole roll.

From what Ive seen at stars, the nl5 tables are not nitty at all.
nl5 is actually looking more profitable than nl10 for me. Ive been beating nl5 for 12.5 ptbb/100 but only beating nl10 by 5ptbb/100.

Also, not only is the rake at fulltilt disgusting, so is the software and the support. Ive been sending them emails for days and still no reply.
I just really cant see how a piece of shit site like that has got so big. I have more respect for cake poker.

 

[Tyler Durden]

The key is to be patient. I remember when I first started playing 10nl. I was in such a hurry to make money, but all I did was lose money. Also, make sure you have no distractions; no web browsing, watching tv, chatting on AIM, etc.

Good luck

 

[WVHillbilly]

Are you playing any tighter since the last time you posted your stats? I think you need to try to get your VP$IP down to around 15% and get your AF up by playing raise or fold poker. You're doing too much calling preflop.

Also you need to remember that this is not tournament poker. You can't threaten these players with elimination by throwing out a big bet. It also seems like you're targeting small stacks with your big bluffs and as you know this is the exact opposite of who you should be threatening with an all-in move.

 

[aliengenius]

Dropped three more buy-ins today. Losing w my sets. Unreal.

I don't agree with getting vp$ip down to 15%-- you wont get any action, even from the idiots. Also, when they don't fold to c-bets, raising is kind of pointless, as having the lead in the hand is not as valuable. Lower preflop raise percentage, with your aggression coming post flop when you hit seems to be the better path, especially out of position.

What was the verdict on the rake? 10% is going to come out no matter what the cap is on both Stars and FT, right?

 

[Emperor IX]

From what Ive seen at stars, the nl5 tables are not nitty at all.
nl5 is actually looking more profitable than nl10 for me. Ive been beating nl5 for 12.5 ptbb/100 but only beating nl10 by 5ptbb/100.

Also, not only is the rake at fulltilt disgusting, so is the software and the support. Ive been sending them emails for days and still no reply.
I just really cant see how a piece of shit site like that has got so big. I have more respect for cake poker.

Which $5max you mean? .02/.05 or .01/.02? the 1c2c tables are veerry nitty. Ask cboom and kesc, they've been sitting with me in a lot of games recently. And we all leave with decent profit everytime. Most of mine just comes from muscle.

I'm assuming you mean 2/5 because 12.5ptbb/100 at 1c/2c is definitely not better than 5ptbb/100 at 5c/10c lol

 

[jaketrevvor]

Debating the rake and subtle vpip/pf raise statistics is, although helpful, not the main problem obviously if you're dropping multiple buy-ins in a given session. STOP MAKING MOVES. Clearly running bad is an issue but the thing that jumps out here is that you're playing poker not 10nl. Position means nothing. Image means nothing. Cards mean everything. Bluffs and plays gone wrong seem to have lost you many buy-ins, just cut these out. Oh, and start running better .

 

[tenbob]

Yea gotta agree with Jake. Unless the games have changed substantially in the last year or so, playing hands for pure value is the only way, and ill say this in essence for a lot of nl$25 as well, even though bluffing can be more successful.

Another thing i notice from some of the hands that your posting AG your playing a VERY volitile style, pushing small edges for stacks whilst being profitiable in the long run, that run can be long, and variance can be a killer for a recretional player.

Just curious how many hands have you logged in now ? Still looking to see a graph. You could also post your PT screenies for your biggest losing hands, (with the extra detail tab)

 

[aliengenius]

Yea gotta agree with Jake. Unless the games have changed substantially in the last year or so, playing hands for pure value is the only way, and ill say this in essence for a lot of nl$25 as well, even though bluffing can be more successful.

Another thing i notice from some of the hands that your posting AG your playing a VERY volitile style, pushing small edges for stacks whilst being profitiable in the long run, that run can be long, and variance can be a killer for a recretional player.

Just curious how many hands have you logged in now ? Still looking to see a graph. You could also post your Poker Tracker screenies for your biggest losing hands, (with the extra detail tab)

21,766 hands. Down $215.63 (4.96ptbb/100). Biggest losing hands as AQo (-$79.55) and AKo (-$38.55).

I feel I played well yesterday, except at the very end of the 1,500 hand session.

Lost twice w QQ to sets vs. smaller stacks (is this avoidable? I can't really see how):

FullTiltPoker Game #5483225475: Table Snow Trail - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 10:10:47 ET - 2008/03/03
Seat 1: Krisso ($18)
Seat 2: loloo84 ($6.35)
Seat 3: Vandalar ($9.90)
Seat 4: JamesBont ($10.10)
Seat 5: flinto ($6.40)
Seat 6: IQ_999 ($11.05)
Seat 7: adolf8880 ($1.85)
Seat 8: Leo The Liger ($11.65)
Seat 9: aliengenius ($10)
Vandalar posts the small blind of $0.05
JamesBont posts the big blind of $0.10
aliengenius posts $0.10
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to aliengenius [Qs Qc]
flinto calls $0.10
IQ_999 folds
adolf8880 has 15 seconds left to act
adolf8880 folds
Leo The Liger raises to $0.50
aliengenius calls $0.40
Krisso folds
loloo84 folds
Vandalar folds
JamesBont folds
flinto calls $0.40
*** FLOP *** [Jc 7h 5c]
flinto bets $1.50
Leo The Liger folds
aliengenius raises to $9.50, and is all in
flinto calls $4.40, and is all in
aliengenius shows [Qs Qc]
flinto shows [Js 5d]
Uncalled bet of $3.60 returned to aliengenius
*** TURN *** [Jc 7h 5c] [2h]
*** RIVER *** [Jc 7h 5c 2h] [9s]
aliengenius shows a pair of Queens
flinto shows two pair, Jacks and Fives
flinto wins the pot ($12.15) with two pair, Jacks and Fives
aliengenius: unreal
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $13.45 | Rake $1.30
Board: [Jc 7h 5c 2h 9s]
Seat 1: Krisso didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: loloo84 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: Vandalar (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: JamesBont (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: flinto showed [Js 5d] and won ($12.15) with two pair, Jacks and Fives
Seat 6: IQ_999 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: adolf8880 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: Leo The Liger folded on the Flop
Seat 9: aliengenius showed [Qs Qc] and lost with a pair of Queens

and

FullTiltPoker Game #5484072986: Table Desert Marigold - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 12:01:48 ET - 2008/03/03
Seat 1: mevans5791 ($3.10)
Seat 2: cipches ($1.50)
Seat 3: gggeorgio ($10.60)
Seat 4: TheGaempler ($3.50)
Seat 5: slvrJ ($4.20)
Seat 6: siniperca ($13)
Seat 7: aliengenius ($12.05)
Seat 8: M Flatley ($2.85)
Seat 9: Caroli61 ($3.75)
Caroli61 has 5 seconds left to act
Caroli61 posts the small blind of $0.05
mevans5791 posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to aliengenius [Qc Qd]
cipches folds
gggeorgio folds
TheGaempler folds
slvrJ calls $0.10
siniperca folds
aliengenius raises to $0.45
M Flatley calls $0.45
Caroli61 folds
mevans5791 calls $0.35
slvrJ calls $0.35
*** FLOP *** [3h 4d 7c]
mevans5791 checks
slvrJ checks
aliengenius has 15 seconds left to act
aliengenius bets $1.55
M Flatley folds
mevans5791 has 15 seconds left to act
M Flatley is feeling angry
mevans5791 folds
slvrJ calls $1.55
*** TURN *** [3h 4d 7c] [Jh]
slvrJ checks
aliengenius bets $2
slvrJ raises to $2.20, and is all in
aliengenius calls $0.20
slvrJ shows [4s 4c]
aliengenius shows [Qc Qd]
*** RIVER *** [3h 4d 7c Jh] [7s]
slvrJ shows a full house, Fours full of Sevens
aliengenius shows two pair, Queens and Sevens
slvrJ wins the pot ($8.45) with a full house, Fours full of Sevens
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $9.35 | Rake $0.90
Board: [3h 4d 7c Jh 7s]
Seat 1: mevans5791 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: cipches didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: gggeorgio didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: TheGaempler didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: slvrJ showed [4s 4c] and won ($8.45) with a full house, Fours full of Sevens
Seat 6: siniperca didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: aliengenius showed [Qc Qd] and lost with two pair, Queens and Sevens
Seat 8: M Flatley (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 9: Caroli61 (small blind) folded before the Flop

I run goot:

FullTiltPoker Game #5487427699: Table Bush Garden - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 17:11:55 ET - 2008/03/03
Seat 1: Iron Cougar ($21)
Seat 2: thhorn42 ($9.85)
Seat 3: NHMF ($1.65)
Seat 4: aliengenius ($9.95)
Seat 5: Atlasin ($3.10)
Seat 6: Crespokarl ($9.65)
Seat 7: christopherZ ($2.45)
Seat 8: TX_Dillo ($10.25)
Seat 9: robinr1 ($3.60)
Atlasin posts the small blind of $0.05
Crespokarl posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to aliengenius [7h 7c]
christopherZ folds
TX_Dillo folds
robinr1 has 15 seconds left to act
robinr1 folds
Iron Cougar calls $0.10
thhorn42 raises to $0.20
NHMF folds
aliengenius calls $0.20
Atlasin folds
Crespokarl calls $0.10
Iron Cougar calls $0.10
*** FLOP *** [7s Th Ac]
Crespokarl checks
Iron Cougar bets $0.30
thhorn42 calls $0.30
aliengenius raises to $2.05
Crespokarl folds
Iron Cougar calls $1.75
thhorn42 folds
*** TURN *** [7s Th Ac] [9h]
Iron Cougar checks
aliengenius bets $7.70, and is all in
Iron Cougar calls $7.70
aliengenius shows [7h 7c]
Iron Cougar shows [Ah 6d]
*** RIVER *** [7s Th Ac 9h] [8d]
aliengenius shows three of a kind, Sevens
Iron Cougar shows a straight, Ten high
Iron Cougar wins the pot ($18.65) with a straight, Ten high
aliengenius adds $10
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $20.65 | Rake $2
Board: [7s Th Ac 9h 8d]
Seat 1: Iron Cougar showed [Ah 6d] and won ($18.65) with a straight, Ten high
Seat 2: thhorn42 folded on the Flop
Seat 3: NHMF didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: aliengenius (button) showed [7h 7c] and lost with three of a kind, Sevens
Seat 5: Atlasin (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: Crespokarl (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 7: christopherZ didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: TX_Dillo didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: robinr1 didn't bet (folded)

 

[Four Dogs]

Dropped three more buy-ins today. Losing w my sets. Unreal.

I don't agree with getting vp$ip down to 15%-- you wont get any action, even from the idiots. Also, when they don't fold to c-bets, raising is kind of pointless, as having the lead in the hand is not as valuable. Lower preflop raise percentage, with your aggression coming post flop when you hit seems to be the better path, especially out of position.

What was the verdict on the rake? 10% is going to come out no matter what the cap is on both Stars and FT, right?

No. only at Tilt. PS is 5%. The cap is higher, but since most .05/.10 pots never get there, that's irrelevant.

 

[tenbob]

Doubling up short-stacks with overpairs is somewhat unavoidable, regardless of the limits you play.

Also avoid tables like this........Notice how we have 6 shortstacks. We want to be playing deep most of the time if at all possible, in order for us to take advantage of implied odds, as most of the time a nl$10 player, will not fold an overpair, regardless of how deep they are playing.

FullTiltPoker Game #5484072986: Table Desert Marigold - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 12:01:48 ET - 2008/03/03
Seat 1: mevans5791 ($3.10)
Seat 2: cipches ($1.50)
Seat 3: gggeorgio ($10.60)
Seat 4: TheGaempler ($3.50)
Seat 5: slvrJ ($4.20)
Seat 6: siniperca ($13)
Seat 7: aliengenius ($12.05)
Seat 8: M Flatley ($2.85)
Seat 9: Caroli61 ($3.75)
Caroli61 has 5 seconds left to act
Caroli61 posts the small blind of $0.05
mevans5791 posts the big blind of $0.10

Get off Full Tilt, your paying an extra 5% rake, and unless you have a RB deal its not worth it, (even then its not worth it but better), and from my experience the rings on FT are just too nitty for my liking anyway, stars plays better.

Why all the massive flop bets ?
Why are you raising to isolate donks with small pairs, when they play better multiway?
Why are you bluffing missed draws on the river ?
Why don't I see any hand posteds in HA for discussion?
Why don't I see you in any hand discussions in HA ?

I still think that your thinking like an MTT player.

TBH if i was running at almost 5ptbb/100 over a 20K hand sample, id be very very worried. It also looks to me like you don't really care all that much either. Trust me, if you get your game right, this level is very beatable. But you have to work at it. (dont mean to come across overly harsh AG)