hachile1
Rock Star
Silver Level
I do not agree with you, because in these tournaments where there are a lot of players we have to enter with them in the game of All in, because there are all types of players, those who are bad, those who play purely on chance and luck and when we have a good hand we can not abandon it. from where the risk exists to lose even with AA ... this type of games where the players throw All in at the beginning of the tournaments we have no choice but to follow them when we have a good hand and hope to win
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brettlums
Enthusiast
Silver Level
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Alberto Martinez
Rock Star
Silver Level
All-Ins and dealing with it.Any hand can be good or bad, the flop determines the good
Dealing with this can be helpful to you. Just cause they go all in, don't mean they have a good hand. Most times when you call you end up losing to someone else. Mainly, they are trying to build against the higher blinds that are to come, but that formula of playing has little success in the long run. Learn to read them and use them to spring into a successful tournament. These all-inners have a blind spot; when you have a good hand, they don't always go All-Ins, and the flop favors you ,then bait them with a raise or simple check. Remember,you can't win with scared money. Go get their bankroll.
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Binraker
Enthusiast
Silver Level
If it’s in a freeroll it’s arguable +EV in the early rounds.
There’s no cost, it improves your chances of getting a playable chipstack to progress though the tournament and if you lose an all in you can move onto something else.
I’m not a fan of doing it myself but I can see why others do.
There’s no cost, it improves your chances of getting a playable chipstack to progress though the tournament and if you lose an all in you can move onto something else.
I’m not a fan of doing it myself but I can see why others do.
malakata19
Visionary
Silver Level
This culture in the free tournaments ... totally correct and in addition to this you have many players of micro limits that look like kamikases will play you all in with any pair they get on the flop. I have seen a bit of this also in tournaments with buy in in the early stages of the tournaments and you will find yourself with the best quality of the game. Good luck at the tables !!!
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Lazerx
Enthusiast
Silver Level
all in
played against 1 guy yesterday he musta spent 50 bucks in rebuys just kept on going all in very frusterating with 1.5 hours of rebuys
played against 1 guy yesterday he musta spent 50 bucks in rebuys just kept on going all in very frusterating with 1.5 hours of rebuys
MadDeVille
Rock Star
Silver Level
It depends what stakes are in. I'm saying that, at least from my experience, when I played micro and mini stake tournaments you are right many tend to ALL IN with monster hand, but as the stake go up, they wanna see a flop, turn and river. I've played some $215 bounty and milli and there all in's were at least after flop, to be sure you're not gambling with AK get called with 68S and lost your place in tournament.
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Complx_Poker
Enthusiast
Silver Level
It does entirely depend on the player and the game being played.
There are multiple reasons a player might move all in.
Perhaps they have a low pair like pocket 2's or pocket 5's that they move in with pre-flop. Either because they don't want to play the hand and would rather take the pot down now. Or hope that only one player calls and misses the flop, turn and river. This is a bad way to play in a tournament in my opinion. Yes, you can get lucky and your opponent misses eveything, but sometimes it will not work in your favour. Perhaps you shove with pocket 2's and then they have pocket Jack's and call you... Off topic but the best way to play low pairs in a tournament is to see the flop as cheaply as possible, and then look to hit a set. if you see a lot of betting wise move is get out the way.
People might shove all in pre-flop in an attempt to steal blinds. If you are the big blind and you have a substantial hand, i'd lean more towards a call, depending on if im near the bubble.
Some players are very loose and will shove all in with mediocre hands like Jack 10 o, or Queen 10 o. If you are in a tournament, I wouldn't call an all in with anything other Than Ace Queen suited or above. or pocket Kings or Pocket Aces, and maybe Pocket queens. That should be your baseline, however, as play progresses and you start to determine peoples ranges, you might notice a player shoving an Ace with any other card like 7 or 5. If you notice this and you have Ace Queen, definitely worth considering calling.
There are multiple reasons a player might move all in.
Perhaps they have a low pair like pocket 2's or pocket 5's that they move in with pre-flop. Either because they don't want to play the hand and would rather take the pot down now. Or hope that only one player calls and misses the flop, turn and river. This is a bad way to play in a tournament in my opinion. Yes, you can get lucky and your opponent misses eveything, but sometimes it will not work in your favour. Perhaps you shove with pocket 2's and then they have pocket Jack's and call you... Off topic but the best way to play low pairs in a tournament is to see the flop as cheaply as possible, and then look to hit a set. if you see a lot of betting wise move is get out the way.
People might shove all in pre-flop in an attempt to steal blinds. If you are the big blind and you have a substantial hand, i'd lean more towards a call, depending on if im near the bubble.
Some players are very loose and will shove all in with mediocre hands like Jack 10 o, or Queen 10 o. If you are in a tournament, I wouldn't call an all in with anything other Than Ace Queen suited or above. or pocket Kings or Pocket Aces, and maybe Pocket queens. That should be your baseline, however, as play progresses and you start to determine peoples ranges, you might notice a player shoving an Ace with any other card like 7 or 5. If you notice this and you have Ace Queen, definitely worth considering calling.
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MasterConan
Enthusiast
Silver Level
Tons of good advice there. I find it more important to worry about my own hands and ranges, and to keep those fluid for position, hand strength and stack size. Add in some table reads and away u go. Carefull on reads, just cause they are a loose player shoving dumb cards all the time does not mean when u call u win, it is a % thing, over all u know. No need to go from 5th out of 300 to 150th just cause u have aq off, go ahead n fold to the all in donk sometimes. The risk benifit does not actually change all that much even with ur reads and a strong hand. All that said I call them off a lot in freerolls early on and it does go well over all. No fear with no investment.
Cheers!
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Cheers!
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6bet
Enthusiast
Silver Level
Good answers on this thread. In tournament play I always prefer to be the first in and keep fold equity on my side, except maybe when I have AA.
No need to get frustrated, just know your odds and pick your spots. If you are calling just because you "think they are bluffing" or "keep them honest" "teach them a lesson" etc this is most likely not a good play! Call a push much less than often than you push, as these situations allow for the highest variance.
And look on the bright side, don't you love getting shoved on when you have the nuts?:icon_joke
Cody5991
Rock Star
Silver Level
Depends on the tournaments you are playing but if freerolls it is definitely the culture at the start of tournaments as people go all in to try and get ahead early and also cause you have nothing to lose since you didn't pay anything to enter
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Monkeyfart1217
Rising Star
Bronze Level
Calling all in is risky pre flop.
Stevendewitt7
Enthusiast
Silver Level
Man, its the most frustrating/ecstatic/twisted and vengeful game on earth. I played 8 yrs in prison, 2 years online, and i still get spitting pist off when im sitting on Aces and get shoved on with 10, J, and the flop is 789. If someone was a fly on my wall. Lol.
I do okay though. I chalk it as a loss like, "Touche, my dude cause how many times have i cracked heads on some BS? Love/hate relationship dude.
I do okay though. I chalk it as a loss like, "Touche, my dude cause how many times have i cracked heads on some BS? Love/hate relationship dude.
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NotNegreanu
Enthusiast
Silver Level
Bad Beats
This tends to happen a lot in the lower stakes. I play a lot of free rolls and its like an unwritten rule almost that if you have a good hand its just a shove no matter what, I don't really understand it but I have tons f fun beating AK with off suite 26 lol.
This tends to happen a lot in the lower stakes. I play a lot of free rolls and its like an unwritten rule almost that if you have a good hand its just a shove no matter what, I don't really understand it but I have tons f fun beating AK with off suite 26 lol.
steveeeee
Rock Star
Bronze Level
i totally agree that everyone has the right to play ya want . Sometimes you are on the good end and sometimes you are on the wrong end alll ya can do is wait it out or jump right on in and have fun.
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tke001
Rock Star
Silver Level
Freerolls are FREE! When people aren't invested they tend to care very little and proceed impulsively and erratically. In general online poker tends to play more like a turbo even when the format isn't turbo. Most live poker tourneys are deep stacks or at least deeper than online.
When you have less than 25 BBs players feel forced to act with any decent hand and go all in.
When you have less than 25 BBs players feel forced to act with any decent hand and go all in.
Jammen
Enthusiast
Silver Level
I think some people in the freerolls use the all-in strategy early on to try and build a stack and then start playing normally. because on ACR with only 10 people getting paid and around a thousand entries it sucks playing tight for an hour or an hour and a half to lose. Where if you can double or triple up early it makes it easier to play. just a thought, I've tried it a few times but never seems to work for me.