Do you believe online poker is not random?

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If you search on ways to see if its not random, you'll find that online poker have fast dealing so its likely to lose faster (its reasonable).
I can't say if I believe in it or not because you can't tell if it actually is, unless there's proof. And no know could tell either even if they had a longer experience in the room they play in.
But I can say its random (not believe) because I've never had a suspicious act, and my win/lose rate are acceptable until now. If it was not random I would definitely see changes in results because I know after few years what can I achieve in online poker.
 
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The rooms have deliberately developed an algorithm designed to force players to put more money into the pot in order to earn even more from the rake.The argument in favor of this statement is the supposedly disproportionate amount,in contrast to live poker, the so-called "setups " or coolers.
 
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Hello. I am concerned. It appears that ACR has an algorithm that eliminates players that bet against a larger bank. Especially toward breaks and toward the end of the MTT (final table). Does anyone feel the same?

Lol I have exactly the same feeling, but most likely it's just an accident, I think we both need to be cold-blooded and not wind us up with thoughts:confused:
 
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Hello. I am concerned. It appears that ACR has an algorithm that eliminates players that bet against a larger bank. Especially toward breaks and toward the end of the MTT (final table). Does anyone feel the same?



Yes, I think the same, I already wrote something about it before, I don't remember where or to whom, but I agree with you. There comes a time when the program takes you out of the equation, I calculate that to make the game faster and not take forever.
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If you think it is rigged in a particular fashion, use that as intel.
Play to the flaws you believe are there.
Just treat such things as rules.
Exploit them.
That is what I have started to do -- however I totally disagree that there is a tendency for larger stacks to outdraw shorter stacks -- I think there is a tendency for crappy hands to out-draw premium hands.
I have hit runner-runner so often against premium hands. It is also less of a piss-off to crack a good hands with crap than to be cracked.
But in the end, if the algorithms are equally applied (ie it doesn't show a preference for an individual), then just figure out how to exploit it.
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Forget it, it's just a feeling. It is fairly random. Algorithmic. Not perfect. But random enough.

As long as you don't get dealt the same cards every hand or have the same flop river and turn with every hand you play, then it is definitely random.Lack of repetition is practically random

Being algorithmic though, can give you an edge if you figure out how the algorithm works.

So less random means you can have an advantage and not necessarily a disadvantage.

I have to disagree regarding tournaments though. I have made many final tables, running on very few BB. I have also been eliminated many many times as a small stack, but also as a medium stack. However, big stacks generally have a mathematical advantage with any two cards.
 
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Yes, I do. But agree with mushthebush, it's random, but not perfect.
 
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Forget it, it's just a feeling. It is fairly random. Algorithmic. Not perfect. But random enough.

As long as you don't get dealt the same cards every hand or have the same flop river and turn with every hand you play, then it is definitely random.Lack of repetition is practically random

Being algorithmic though, can give you an edge if you figure out how the algorithm works.

So less random means you can have an advantage and not necessarily a disadvantage.

I have to disagree regarding tournaments though. I have made many final tables, running on very few BB. I have also been eliminated many many times as a small stack, but also as a medium stack. However, big stacks generally have a mathematical advantage with any two cards.


I agree with mushthebush. Its true thats random and you can have an advantage if you know how the algorithm works.
 
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I don't believe that for even a minute.
 
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It depends on how you define random. Nature creates patterns and we look for them. The sites try and make poker fair and random.
 
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guys, if you lost a few coinflips or have been losing money for several months, first analyze your game, and then look for an RNG conspiracy);)
 
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I think live poker is definitely the better option. Sometimes I call because I know I'm better and the opponent is rewarded with his 1 outer .... prefer live poker
 
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I'm playing Raketherake tournament literally 15 minutes ago, I was sitting on the verge of flying 500 chips stack at bb 150.I waited for A 10 one-piece and went all in 3 opponents pressed the call , no one got into the board, I won.After a couple of hands, QQ was thrown to me, I pressed all in, no one accepted.On the next hand, I was given a QQ again and everything happened again.And not the next hand AJ all in and got a call from A7 and won.What is it, if not random?
 
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I'm playing Raketherake tournament literally 15 minutes ago, I was sitting on the verge of flying 500 chips stack at bb 150.I waited for A 10 one-piece and went all in 3 opponents pressed the call , no one got into the board, I won.After a couple of hands, QQ was thrown to me, I pressed all in, no one accepted.On the next hand, I was given a QQ again and everything happened again.And not the next hand AJ all in and got a call from A7 and won.What is it, if not random?



It's a lucky day...u should mark it down on your calendar for next year :cool:
 
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Okay

Well, I don't think poker is random, what a player is looking for is the combination of his cards and if he doesn't have anything, he puts an allin on you and beats you with whatever bluff:angel::angel::angel::angel:
 
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It's definitely not entirely random as it should be

I havn't played online for years but I remember clearly being able to tell it's not random

on 6+ seat games it's quite easy to tell when almost every hand someone has like 1 pair, someone has 2 pair, someone has trips, and someone hits a straight or full house, which wouldn't happen half as much in a casino

Not to mention when you have those ultimate donks that will re-raise you all in with sweet f all, and a bad 2 cards themselves, and some how come out on top with the turn and river dropping them the ultimate donking cards

Though that's not even what makes it most obvious in a sense, it's when you play heads up it is ridiculously obvious when you are getting like q8 every other hand, hitting the 8, but the ''opponent'' has K8 , which this type of thing happens so much, when in reality, purely random cards means in heads up, you could be the winner or the leading hand with just a J high, or even 10 high...... Think about it and if you've played in a casino before you should know that in many hands in heads up you both don't hit anything.. Now compare this to your online experience and notice it's entirely not random

Another thing to realise is that if you're actually a solid player, and you don't put any chips in past the flop if you're not going to win, the poker programs and the people that run and own them do not like this type of player as you won't throw chips around so much and winlosewinlosewinloselosewinlose as much as a mediocre player would, so you will probably get donked on and get messed with by the algorithm , how ever if you're someone who throws chips around a lot, you will be that donk that get's that magic luck, as the poker program and the people who design them know you will throw those chips back around, and likely lose, and throw more chips around like a donkey, and get that donkey luck, and throw them back, and lose them back quick enough, though of course if you're a solid player who will mainly just win win win and play solid and not throw chips at losing hands, the owners of these sites won't like you very much.... Think about it and realise this

I didn't even play online poker for very long to notice and realise this.. I could have been a great player, but was quite quickly put off from playing poker by how it works in online poker, which for sure isn't entirely random as it should be

Why do you think you'll get donked by someone re-raising with sweet f all so much? turn and river giving them a straight after they played like a donkey without a head? Yh, seems legit

If you're actually intelligent this all should be obvious, and you would know it's not entirely random as you would recognize the patterns and the nonsense quickly enough..
 
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Think about it and if you've played in a casino before you should know that in many hands in heads up you both don't hit anything.. Now compare this to your online experience and notice it's entirely not random
I don't hit anything live or online. Heads up or family pot
 
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I have suspected online poker to be rigged recently. Especially Coinpoker and ACR. Most of the examples given I too have seen. No proof but sure does seem like it
 
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I see, for example, the kick offs of pokerstars and it doesn't look like the same software. Cards always come out on the flop that give serious chances of winning the hand to everyone who sees the flop. It's a way of giving excitement to the game in that way you match the good and bad players.
 
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Hello. I am concerned. It appears that ACR has an algorithm that eliminates players that bet against a larger bank. Especially toward breaks and toward the end of the MTT (final table). Does anyone feel the same?
Consider that at times the cards help the one with the most chips
 
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I don't think it makes sense. You should reconsider your game strategy and everything will be fine in the future. The profit of poker sites is completely different, so this is just unnecessary anxiety.
 
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I'm sure that big poker sites don't need to cheat players and lose their prestige.
 
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It may seem to someone that on some poker rooms, KK often hits AA, but these are all discussions, usually poker algorithms are checked.
 
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I don't play ACR but on PS i got the same feeling. I think that in some days some players got more luck then others.
 
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why am I why the algorithm excludes players to those who have more stack at the end of the break or final, this is go I have a lot of them I saved them all when I was so overburned and it is who has more stack he always I won even though he had bad cards in his hands, I think so for activity, the same there are some advantages, the algorithm sometimes gives such players a gift
 
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