Do you believe online poker is not random?

[Roller]

online poker is truly mathematically random where as real poker is not electronically randomized and therefore not random in the same sense of the word.

As far as loosing against the big stack, of course you will because the Logic goes something like this. The big stack is running hot and going against a player running hot usually send you to the rail.

 

[Joselmb31]

I think so, the machine doesn't force anyone to bet, check, or even go all in pre-flop with marginal hands.

 

[Queen Anna 777]

no it s not look if u have a lot chips ur chance is higher to win caouse system wanna close fast tables and earn fast money

 

[VikyGia]

Hi

I consider that it is random. However, I consider that the system that has the most chips always benefits, they always win with any card.

 

[LOOPY]

no it s not look if u have a lot chips ur chance is higher to win caouse system wanna close fast tables and earn fast money

You make a good point here. I've noticed many a time near the end of a Sit & Go that the High hand's cards get better in a Showdown.

 

[Cute Octopussy]

There is no random in internet poker

I’m sure that there is no random, firstly, because it was programmed by one person or a group of people, so it can be hacked, secondly, I don’t think that poker room want to lose money, they can add a bot which know the next card and your cards. This bot can play maybe few minutes so no one will understand that it was a bot, they will think how lucky or stupid this guy.
And the last argument is from my own experience, I always try to be honest with myself, so I know where was my fault and where it wasn’t. I played a tournament and 3 times I got AA, I lost two all-in and one game, but I think it was my fault. After the second one I low-fat the tournament on the 150th place. After this I decided to make statistics and I check it later I lost 12 games with AA and only 2 or 3 I have won.

 

[samircyber9]

For some reason, no one thinks about why a poker room needs to create algorithms. What does the site benefit from this.

 

[franken222]

Why would they do that?

Also, the easy solution: If you think the site is rigged, don't play there.

 

[ICU1234]

Doubt

I don't think anyone can predict the cards. But I don't think it's completely random either. You get a tracker and you might feel the same. Opinions are like butt cracks. Everybody has one.

 

[YuriDitz]

Well, all players experience this from time to time. I myself sometimes think that the RNG is not really random, but there is no proof.

 

[Foxie12340]

Everything in life is random including poker

 

[ztibor72]

I’ve played a few million hands, mostly on pokerstars and as I saw in Pokertracker it’s totally random, I’ve never seen any outstanding data or if so, it’s always recovered in the long run.

 

[bnasp2]

I dont believe major poker sites are rigged in any way.
There is just too much to loose and so little to gain, plus their are statistical methods how to detect it and some ppl are trying those, so it would go out sooner or later.

 

[VikyGia]

Hi

I think it's not random, In addition, there is always favoritism in those who have more chips, they always win with any card.

 

[kkuk]

I do not know if online poker is accidental or not, but at the moment I am in the black.I admit that some rooms can tweak counters and launch bots, but there is no evidence of this, so it cannot be argued.

 

[ICU1234]

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I’ve played a few million hands, mostly on Pokerstars and as I saw in Pokertracker it’s totally random, I’ve never seen any outstanding data or if so, it’s always recovered in the long run.

Interesting. Your profit is really nice and steadily climbing Nov 2013. Only thing odd is your ability is only 65. Average ROI 2.6%, AVERAGE stake 10.45 with average profit of. 29 cents. I'LL have to follow you for sure.

What does normal look like? If your looking for back to back same quads I've gotten that. Just curious what it is you looked for?

All that money and your playing free rolls. They are tough I see.

 

[ztibor72]

Interesting. Your profit is really nice and steadily climbing Nov 2013. Only thing odd is your ability is only 65. Average ROI 2.6%, AVERAGE stake 10.45 with average profit of. 29 cents. I'LL have to follow you for sure.

What does normal look like? If your looking for back to back same quads I've gotten that. Just curious what it is you looked for?

All that money and your playing free rolls. They are tough I see.

I played about 10 years in a backing team. I have played HyperHu till 30$ and spin&go I burned out so I working now and play poker just for fun. I withdrawed all my money from poker rooms and I beginning build a new Bank Roll, just for fun not for money.

 

[ICU1234]

I played about 10 years in a backing team. I have played HyperHu till 30$ and spin&go I burned out so I working now and play poker just for fun. I withdrawed all my money from poker rooms and I beginning build a new Bank Roll, just for fun not for money.

I understand. Those free rolls are tougher than the upper stakes yes.

 

[dannixo]

You tend to think these online games look kind of fishy until you go play live and the same suckouts happen.. you play 50x more hands and at a faster pace online so our perceptions are skewed. With that said I also don't think any of us would be "surprised" if rigging happened online.

 

[dannixo]

I dont believe major poker sites are rigged in any way.
There is just too much to loose and so little to gain, plus their are statistical methods how to detect it and some ppl are trying those, so it would go out sooner or later.

Exactly, at least we hope. Just like we hope that these sites face MASSIVE REPURCUSSIONS for pulling anything suspicious after that black friday scandal years ago.. the online poker scene hopefully is on thin ice and carefully monitored by legitimate entities.

 

[Danieleli]

If you play(or watch) some live poker sometimes you will see that the same things that happens on online also happens on the tables.

Even with 95% of chances to win a hand sometimes the 5% will win. I think our mind play some trick on us because we also win when we have 5% but then we just get happy and moves on while when we lose with 95% we just get angry and think a lot about that hand

 

[kayott]

Online poker is completely fixed!!!

For some reason, no one thinks about why a poker room needs to create algorithms. What does the site benefit from this.

Everyone always says that what do they have to gain? Everything they are not being regulated who is going to stop them or do anything if they are scamming people nobody. Let's take America's Cardroom for example that site is 100% rigged top to bottom its not even close are or aren't they they are rigging the hell out of the games, I ve been watching them close for last couple years and it's comely fixed and they in fact do use their own accounts. They had an update 2 and 3 weeks ago I'm not sure of the exact time frame but the last 2 years I've been noticing something after every update tons and tons of new accounts every time. Well 3 weeks ago I looked up most of the new accounts on there and every single one of them were created in 2015 or 2016 and they all started playing on the same day the day of the update so I immediately sent them a email and asked them what the hell is going on and they ignored me 3 times so I posted the evidence on their Twitter feed and that day all of the accounts were pulled off and replaced by accounts that I had been watching before. Online poker is completely different than before black Friday and trust me when I tell you that's nothing on other shit I found out about them just by watching recording everything. I know that ACR and Betonline both do the same stuff I do not know about Bovada, Global Poker is doing it to but not nearly as bad as the others and I think they just are not good at it yet that's all. Tbh the most random site I have found is Poker Bros ya Poker Bros if you can believe that online poker will never be the same the RNG is completely controlled by the sites, they have their house accounts at the table and the RNG is nowhere close to random. Now if anyone would like to challenge me on this I guarantee I can prove everything I just said. O and for those who think I am just a bad poker player sore loser I need to learn how to play better, I took 3rd at the wsop in plo8 and cashed in the main event the same year so that bs argument doesn't fly. I challenge any emoyee for ACR to try me and see if I can't prove everything I just said. Online poker is now lime the Indian casino Clark Griswald went to in Vegas vacation and I'm not exaggerating.

 

[blef121]

this is a very difficult question, I believe and don’t believe, because there are such distributions that make you believe that it’s not accidental, but when you watch the game offline, different players have the same distributions as you do, in which you think that it’s not accidental, but most likely accidental if you see such distributions offline

 

[ScoobyNL]

in the beginning i had many bad beats and they are still coming.

I used ti think it was big scam but considering that the pokersite has nothing to win extra for your bad beat, why should it be not random ?

We play against other pokerplayers and not against the pokersite !

 

[Tomek416]

Sometimes it's hard to believe that, but I still believe it's random.