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Yes. You are playing to win the tournament, or get in to one of the pay-out spots in satellite MTTs. I'm pretty sure to win is the goal of every single person enters an MTT. You talk about winning/being profitable, but you're never going to be a profitable player in the long run if you fold in situations like these when you're a huge favorite.
You are way off here. I can guarantee a huge percent of players out there would snapcall this in a heartbeat. Those that do fold are very likely losing players in the long run.
Then these players are result-oriented losing players who wont show a profit in the long run if they don't change their views/thinking. True, you may not know when these "bad beats" may happen, but you do know AA is at least 75% favorite against any other hand. In the long run, getting your money in as a favorite is what gets you profits. The chance you might lose to a 25% underdog is nothing if you're thinking long term.completely understand your point of view , however many would fold for fear the Bad Beat , I know there's no way predicts it more in poker can expect everything!
If a friend offered to flip a coin and says "If it lands on heads, I pay you $1000 but if it lands on tails, you have to pay me $215." Do you take this offer? If so, why this and not the AA vs XX? Your chances of winning are only 50% vs 75%. If you say no, why? You're getting offered over 4.5x your money at a 50/50 flip.
So, you give 2 examples of losing with AA and you think there is a controversy with AA. If you're this result oriented, then I understand why you'd want to fold AA on the first hand of the sunday million. With that sad, you're thinking is way off. Your sample size is probably minuscule to even warrant some type of AA "controversy" and you're going to be a losing player in the long run if your poker decisions are based on some "bad luck". I've lost plenty of times with AA, as have many other players, but that doesn't change their 75% chance to win vs any other hand.
Wow. You're way off. AA vs 22 is an 80% favorite. And yes, anything can happen in poker, but at the same time, those who get their money in +EV spots are going to win in the long run.this variance is **** , most did not raise question of fear or something , not a tight and even aggressive ! the issue is the risk you take with AA ! AA vs 22 pre flop is 60 % -40 % and I think when we talk about poker , anything can happen !
Lets say I give you AA (face up) and I take 22 (face up) and I say we both put in $100. We'll see a flop, turn, and river, and the winner takes the pot. I say we should play this out 100x. Do you take me up on my offer? Why?
Again, majority of all poker players snap call in this situation. The fact that anything can happen isn't a good enough reason to fold AA here. In fact, with that logic, you should just fold every hand you're dealt because of your "anything can happen" logic.I mean, if you're folding a hand that's a 75% favorite to win preflop, then it makes no logical sense for you to call with any other hand preflop ever because they're all less than a 75% to win. And if you're not calling with AA on the first hand because you fear the 25% chance it might lose, then it doesn't make sense to call during any other stage in the tournament because that 75%-25% doesn't change as the game progresses. In fact, you should just stop playing poker in general because, by your logic, you should never be playing a hand and you should be folding everything.
Well, don't stop playing, because as player, I'd like knowing that you're the type of player who is, by your logic, going to fold every single hand. We should play heads up cash games some time. I can just keep raising preflop, you click auto-fold for every hand, and i'll chips chip you down. I'm happy I'm making money. You're happy making such solid folds because "anything can happen" and you don't want to take slight risks.
