ObbleeXY
Visionary
Bronze Level
Both good points. I have been stupid like this too many times and am less likely to push on a flip (unless of course we're <20BB, then I often go roughly go by the charts.)
Second, your comment on fast games is also on point. I played a game recently where six people went all in on the first hand. (a few premium hands, a couple AXo) and a real P.O.S... and guess what happened? (AKs split the pot with AKo).
I find I'm torn between trying to make some money quickly vs having the time to wait for a good hand to come along. Then again, I'm still trying to find the games where I have a clear edge. Not there yet.
Cheers,
ObbleeXY
Wrathchild
Enthusiast
Silver Level
In cash games? I see it once in a while in micro/mid stakes after someone tilts from taking a bad beat or making a bad call. They'll start spewing chips by shoving for several hands until either a) other people call them and take enough buy-ins that they rage-quit the table, b) people call and they win enough to "calm then down." or c) no one calls and they eventually just settle down after picking up a few blinds.
I've also seen it where I've sat down at a table where someone already has 5x the buy-in and are intermittently shoving preflop, and somehow keep winning. I'm not sure what is going on in their mind, but if they are "feeling lucky" and keep being paid off it might keep reinforcing that decision until they lose a hand, and then the player eventually leaves with their winnings from that table. We all know it can't work well for them long term, but I don't know if that's how they play all the time but I'm sure it feels sweet winning a bunch of money in a short period of time.
As far as tournaments, I see it mainly at the beginning of freerolls and rebuy MTTs. They are a massive time commitment, and you aren't losing much, if anything if you bust. If you do get lucky you're in a good spot for the long haul. Personally, I don't mind that because the field thins quicker and if the gods are good I might get a hand worth calling with (I've become the overall chip leader on a couple of occasions from a single, early hand).
Overall, I don't believe people who are all-in/spam-shoving every hand in general are taking the game all that seriously at the point, no matter the format.
I've also seen it where I've sat down at a table where someone already has 5x the buy-in and are intermittently shoving preflop, and somehow keep winning. I'm not sure what is going on in their mind, but if they are "feeling lucky" and keep being paid off it might keep reinforcing that decision until they lose a hand, and then the player eventually leaves with their winnings from that table. We all know it can't work well for them long term, but I don't know if that's how they play all the time but I'm sure it feels sweet winning a bunch of money in a short period of time.
As far as tournaments, I see it mainly at the beginning of freerolls and rebuy MTTs. They are a massive time commitment, and you aren't losing much, if anything if you bust. If you do get lucky you're in a good spot for the long haul. Personally, I don't mind that because the field thins quicker and if the gods are good I might get a hand worth calling with (I've become the overall chip leader on a couple of occasions from a single, early hand).
Overall, I don't believe people who are all-in/spam-shoving every hand in general are taking the game all that seriously at the point, no matter the format.
HolePairs
Enthusiast
Silver Level
i think people play tournaments like that because its either get a big stack early or get grinded down in the later stages. I feel many players think its all luck too, and play with an any two cards mentality. Sure it could work from time to time but I'd be willing to bet that those same players dont cash out often.
It is a poor strategy in my opinion
It is a poor strategy in my opinion
Rob Hobson
Legend
Loyaler
It's simple. It's because one of the following:
1- they're playing freerolls or very low buy in and don't care about losing (but if they match a hand is nice);
2- they're playing re-buys tourneys or very low cash stakes;
3- they're drunk;
4- they are big fish (just like me);
5- some many other reasons.
RimworldDoctor
Rock Star
Silver Level
Whodahustla
Rock Star
Silver Level
Just to gamble.
I wish I had that much money to piss away but I honestly don't think I would. Out-smarting other players is what makes the game for me outside of the money.
I wish I had that much money to piss away but I honestly don't think I would. Out-smarting other players is what makes the game for me outside of the money.
Rob Hobson
Legend
Loyaler
Yes, maybe this is the main reason
Roobz75
Legend
Platinum Level
That's why the professionals don't do it. Just annoying if it's constant throughout the game from the same player(s)
ringworm
Rock Star
Silver Level
I think in the freerolls, players do this to double up quickly or move on. In the lower limits, you'll find some higher limit players doing this to blow off some steam. If you don't know how to play poker, it's probably the best strategy to just go all in every hand.
Mati532
Legend
Platinum Level
It is very common that in Freerolls tournaments they play like this to shoot all in.
For them it is very exciting to go all in, they leave it up to each other.
These people do not understand the game in the least. They are recreational.
Now in cash tables it is different, obviously that some recreational ones you will find but in tournaments the amount of little fish that there are haha is incredible.
For them it is very exciting to go all in, they leave it up to each other.
These people do not understand the game in the least. They are recreational.
Now in cash tables it is different, obviously that some recreational ones you will find but in tournaments the amount of little fish that there are haha is incredible.
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Kraanjhb7
Rock Star
Silver Level
A lot of the times they are lucky and kick you out with a good hand. The algo also is to blame for that. If you call you lose much more of the time. That can have a very negative effect and you start doing the same. Hence all those all inns.
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BodyCount
Rock Star
Silver Level
Тhe only good reason is to play in more than 8 freerolls and look for a quick doubling. You will succeed at one or two tables, even without a hand selection. I can't say it's such a bad strategy since you play without buy-in.. At MTTs with an entry fee we rarely see this type of inadequate actions.
