Moving on up, Cash Game Thread

[Aces2w1n]

Your not a fish... Just treat your game as an object separate to you. The way you talk about hands etc is way better than me. But we have our strengths and weaknesses. Just always chip away and when I say you don't know anything, we all don't and that is why we keep plugging away working on our game so we have some type of clue.

That's just a basic response. I tried going deep but it went into a whole page and it jumped topic. So I held off

But I wasn't meaning to insult you personally, but just look at what I said and work on it / expand your mind beyond the game.

 

[IPlay]

Its all good Aces, I understand and only took it a little personal We are all from all over the world though so what may seem rude to an American might be standard jabber to an Aussie

 

[Aces2w1n]

nah i am rude and blunt... but sometimes we need to be honest with ourselves

 

[Aces2w1n]

but looking at your responses to be nudging ur game... u have a confidence issue clearly. Or you would shrug it off easier...


maybe work on confidence building

 

[IPlay]

AYYYOOOOO winning session. Only my 5th winning session out of my previous 19 and it was only 1 buy in but I'll happily take it. I've made some adjustments to my overall strategy that I think is working nicely. Limiting myself to 2-4 tables max for now and once my bankroll is a little bit healthier and my game sharper I'll move up to 6 and take it from there. When in doubt I'm folding it out, I am making far too many thin calls and people just are not bluffing a lot. I also tightened up my UTG/MP ranges a tad.

I have been thinking about starting a minraise strategy from the button since the games play pretty tight and most regs respond appropriately to 3x opens. I think 2x will make them play a wider range OOP and cause more mistakes from the player pool as a whole.

One thing I can say through those last 30k hands, my bluffs have been quite successful. This hand was kind of interesting and I actually struggle to put villain on a strong hand and river looks like he was getting cute with a Kx hand that floated flop so I tried to punish him for it. I also had notes on him that he floats with air IP. Think he is capable of folding a weak Ax here? My line looks uber strong.

Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: $12.70 (VPIP: 17.86, PFR: 17.86, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 28)
UTG: $10.00 (VPIP: 17.74, PFR: 13.75, 3Bet Preflop: 5.69, Hands: 2,234)
Hero (CO): $10.80
BTN: $18.55 (VPIP: 20.99, PFR: 12.35, 3Bet Preflop: 3.03, Hands: 84)
SB: $22.94 (VPIP: 32.31, PFR: 27.69, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 131)

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has J:club: Q:spade:

fold, Hero raises to $0.30, BTN calls $0.30, fold, fold

Flop: ($0.75, 2 players) 7:heart: 2:spade: A:club:
Hero bets $0.24, BTN calls $0.24

Turn: ($1.23, 2 players) K:spade:
Hero bets $0.70, BTN calls $0.70

River: ($2.63, 2 players) A:heart:
Hero checks, BTN bets $1.10, Hero raises to $3.70, fold

Hero wins $4.59

This hand I was not thrilled about calling pre and probably fold AJo but call with AJs since it is a pretty small 3b and I have position with a hand that has at least 30% against majority of villains range. Not sure if I would have folded this table last week while playing 10 tables. Probably look real quick and see TP and click call.

Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (CO): $10.15
BTN: $26.97 (VPIP: 22.38, PFR: 17.09, 3Bet Preflop: 6.72, Hands: 1,533)
SB: $9.90 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
BB: $11.09 (VPIP: 29.61, PFR: 24.58, 3Bet Preflop: 9.86, Hands: 181)
UTG: $14.33 (VPIP: 24.60, PFR: 14.44, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 195)

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has A:heart: J:heart:

fold, Hero raises to $0.30, fold, SB raises to $0.90, fold, Hero calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.90, 2 players) 7:diamond: A:spade: Q:heart:
SB bets $1.40, Hero calls $1.40

Turn: ($4.70, 2 players) K:diamond:
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($4.70, 2 players) 8:spade:
SB bets $3.70, fold

SB wins $4.47

These hands are nothing crazy but I am very happy with them.

 

[IPlay]

Sigh... I just don't think the run bad will ever end. I can't even have one night where things like this don't happen over and over to me. Once I saw the turn I instantly knew what the river would be.

Yes, I am tilted and borderline on joining the rigtards.

Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: $10.15 (VPIP: 22.35, PFR: 14.12, 3Bet Preflop: 5.13, Hands: 88)
CO: $19.74 (VPIP: 29.75, PFR: 17.72, 3Bet Preflop: 17.65, Hands: 162)
Hero (BTN): $18.49
SB: $18.72 (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 30.00, 3Bet Preflop: 40.00, Hands: 11)

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has K:diamond: K:spade:

fold, Hero raises to $0.30, SB raises to $0.70, fold, Hero raises to $2.20, SB raises to $5.20, Hero raises to $18.49 and is all-in, SB calls $13.29

Flop: ($37.08, 2 players) 8:spade: J:diamond: 8:diamond:

Turn: ($37.08, 2 players) T:club:

River: ($37.08, 2 players) Q:club:

Hero shows K:diamond: K:spade: (Two Pair, Kings and Eights)
(Pre 70%, Flop 87%, Turn 84%)
SB shows K:club: A:heart: (Straight, Ace High)
(Pre 30%, Flop 13%, Turn 16%)
SB wins $35.23

 

[IPlay]

Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: $10.00 (VPIP: 7.63, PFR: 5.08, 3Bet Preflop: 3.16, Hands: 244)
UTG: $11.46 (VPIP: 27.78, PFR: 20.56, 3Bet Preflop: 8.77, Hands: 183)
MP: $12.47 (VPIP: 24.86, PFR: 17.63, 3Bet Preflop: 6.30, Hands: 362)
Hero (CO): $10.55
BTN: $30.72 (VPIP: 20.85, PFR: 15.93, 3Bet Preflop: 6.69, Hands: 1,375)
SB: $15.48 (VPIP: 22.33, PFR: 17.67, 3Bet Preflop: 8.46, Hands: 334)

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has K:heart: K:club:

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.30, BTN raises to $0.90, fold, fold, Hero raises to $2.70, BTN raises to $30.72 and is all-in, Hero calls $7.85 and is all-in

Flop: ($21.25, 2 players) T:spade: 7:spade: 3:heart:

Turn: ($21.25, 2 players) 9:club:

River: ($21.25, 2 players) 3:diamond:

Hero shows K:heart: K:club: (Two Pair, Kings and Threes)
(Pre 18%, Flop 8%, Turn 5%)
BTN shows A:heart: A:diamond: (Two Pair, Aces and Threes)
(Pre 82%, Flop 92%, Turn 95%)
BTN wins $20.19

Some fun facts for you guys.

In 27k hands I have got all in pre with AA 8 times. 3 times vs AA, 0 times vs KK and the other 5 times against 77-JJ type hands that people spewed with(Maybe an AK). On the other hand I have GII pre with KK vs AA 4 times.

Something isn't right here or am I a fish for getting it in with KK pre?

 

[Aces2w1n]

QJ: Can you explain your sizing on the flop????
How I see the flop bet Is a weak Ace. A good player could easily see this as testing the waters(On the turn), so this will work against weak players but the regs will catch on fast and will attack you.

AJs: I'm betting the turn allday everyday because it's a scare card and there is a ton of draws out there, So even if villain isn't scared he will call with worse.

So yeah 2nd best hands can call and we also end the hand there which is always good especially on a drawy board.


With KK I prefer to be the one shoving than calling but will still call, it feels like we lose much more than we win, a while ago I posted all my KK hands and was surprised that I won far more than lost, we all remember the bad times with KK but turn a blind eye with the winning KK it's natural habbit.



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I like the fact your thinking about dropping tables but the question is how many tables are you use to playing optimal??? Could you be playing tired???

Keep plugging away at what your doing wrong and it'll fix up with hardwork

Just remember to always be deadly honest with yourself with your hands, Your textbook knowledge maybe really strong but your live game play may not reflect... so with practice turn it around and I'm sure your aware of this.

I find small winning sessions help ease the mind especially if you have been overplaying and made losses. So sometimes manufacturing wins can help but longterm can be disasterous so just beaware and could lead to fear.

 

[braveslice]

@IPlay, You open your every session downwards then fix it later. This probably could be fixed by using some kind of warmup. Either by mental practice or playing one/two tables until you feel the flow.

Also someone, I don't remember who here, is making couple of hand analysis before the grind for warmup, and says it works too.

I personally go hard down when I start without preparations. I use lazy way that is not optimal (in speed, in efficiency and in time) 1. I close my eyes deep yoga breath, and say something like : ‘I play good poker’, 2. I open one table and play like a nit 2-4 orbits or so, if in doubt I fold 3. If all go good, I start to play normally.

 

[jsh169]

Iplay if your serious about cash I would try anywhere but WPN. I get the rakeback, but the opposition is much tougher.

 

[Aces2w1n]

@IPlay, You open your every session downwards then fix it later. This probably could be fixed by using some kind of warmup. Either by mental practice or playing one/two tables until you feel the flow.

Also someone, I don't remember who here, is making couple of hand analysis before the grind for warmup, and says it works too.

I personally go hard down when I start without preparations. I use lazy way that is not optimal (in speed, in efficiency and in time) 1. I close my eyes deep yoga breath, and say something like : ‘I play good poker’, 2. I open one table and play like a nit 2-4 orbits or so, if in doubt I fold 3. If all go good, I start to play normally.

Yeah i said that especially after a break... if i play two sessions before and after work then i dont need it.

but having a plan sometimes on working weaknesses is a good plan to go into a session.

but have to becareful when analyzing before a session or what you do which brave u seem to know but yeah if you o the wrong things you can set yourself up for failure

 

[IPlay]

@IPlay, You open your every session downwards then fix it later. This probably could be fixed by using some kind of warmup. Either by mental practice or playing one/two tables until you feel the flow.

I've started the vast majority of my sessions 2-4 buy ins under EV in the first 300 hands with a random cooler sprinkled in here and there. I think it is more of a coincidence than a problem.

Just like me being down 2 buy ins over the 28 times I have had AA at 25NL. Here is two from tonight. I sure wish I could cold call a 3bet OOP and call a 4bet OOP against the nuts and flop the nuts/near nuts. Must feel good to run that good.

Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: $26.86 (VPIP: 24.40, PFR: 15.77, 3Bet Preflop: 6.06, Hands: 345)
BB: $8.03 (VPIP: 58.82, PFR: 11.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 17)
UTG: $26.59 (VPIP: 25.18, PFR: 18.05, 3Bet Preflop: 6.65, Hands: 1,158)
Hero (CO): $86.02
BTN: $37.27 (VPIP: 22.11, PFR: 17.26, 3Bet Preflop: 5.88, Hands: 495)

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has A:club: A:spade:

fold, Hero raises to $0.75, fold, SB raises to $2.50, fold, Hero raises to $6.50, SB calls $4.00

Flop: ($13.25, 2 players) 8:club: 5:club: 6:club:
SB checks, Hero bets $6.29, SB calls $6.29

Turn: ($25.83, 2 players) 4:heart:
SB checks, Hero bets $73.23 and is all-in, SB calls $14.07 and is all-in

River: ($53.97, 2 players) A:diamond:

SB shows K:club: Q:club: (Flush, King High)
(Pre 16%, Flop 68%, Turn 84%)
Hero shows A:club: A:spade: (Three of a Kind, Aces)
(Pre 84%, Flop 32%, Turn 16%)
SB wins $51.28


Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: $27.03 (VPIP: 43.75, PFR: 31.25, 3Bet Preflop: 21.43, Hands: 33)
BB: $40.76 (VPIP: 27.72, PFR: 21.11, 3Bet Preflop: 9.55, Hands: 481)
UTG: $61.13 (VPIP: 24.46, PFR: 18.81, 3Bet Preflop: 5.43, Hands: 680)
MP: $39.28 (VPIP: 26.05, PFR: 16.34, 3Bet Preflop: 7.65, Hands: 468)
CO: $25.00 (VPIP: 23.90, PFR: 16.98, 3Bet Preflop: 7.94, Hands: 161)
Hero (BTN): $28.61

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has A:club: A:spade:

fold, MP raises to $0.75, fold, Hero raises to $2.25, SB calls $2.15, fold, MP calls $1.50

Flop: ($7.00, 3 players) 9:spade: 5:heart: 6:spade:
SB bets $24.78 and is all-in, fold, Hero calls $24.78

Turn: ($56.56, 2 players) T:club:

River: ($56.56, 2 players) 3:diamond:

SB shows 7:club: 8:club: (Straight, Ten High)
(Pre 22%, Flop 92%, Turn 100%)
Hero shows A:club: A:spade: (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 78%, Flop 8%, Turn 0%)
SB wins $53.74

Oh and the flop sizing on the QJ hand is my typical sizing on a dry Axx flop.

 

[IPlay]

Ayyy, still managed to book a good winning session though, went up to 25NL to play against a couple of my favorite players and it worked out well despite those AA hands above. I even got some last minute redemption hands in. I almost have a winrate too. Maybe I'll post some actual strat hands soon even though it is pretty tough to get proper analysis against regs I play so much against. Hard to others to understand the meta game we have going on. Might turn this into a goal thread in Brags, Beats, and Challenges.

I about puked when I saw the turn.

Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: $25.50 (VPIP: 21.97, PFR: 16.92, 3Bet Preflop: 8.97, Hands: 411)
Hero (MP): $25.00
CO: $20.69 (VPIP: 43.33, PFR: 23.33, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 32)
BTN: $48.95 (VPIP: 34.27, PFR: 20.22, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, Hands: 188)
SB: $31.38 (VPIP: 26.71, PFR: 20.70, 3Bet Preflop: 10.82, Hands: 738)
BB: $25.35 (VPIP: 26.86, PFR: 23.94, 3Bet Preflop: 13.67, Hands: 384)

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has A:spade: A:heart:

UTG raises to $0.65, Hero calls $0.65, CO raises to $2.25, fold, fold, fold, UTG raises to $6.00, Hero calls $5.35, CO calls $3.75

Flop: ($18.35, 3 players) 9:diamond: 5:heart: T:club:
UTG bets $8.72, Hero raises to $19.00 and is all-in, fold, UTG calls $10.28

Turn: ($56.35, 2 players) K:heart:

River: ($56.35, 2 players) A:club:

UTG shows K:club: K:diamond: (Three of a Kind, Kings)
(Pre 19%, Flop 10%, Turn 95%)
Hero shows A:spade: A:heart: (Three of a Kind, Aces)
(Pre 81%, Flop 90%, Turn 5%)
Hero wins $53.54

Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: $25.02 (VPIP: 22.06, PFR: 19.12, 3Bet Preflop: 3.85, Hands: 70)
BTN: $26.63 (VPIP: 31.25, PFR: 31.25, 3Bet Preflop: 31.25, Hands: 35)
SB: $30.96 (VPIP: 33.99, PFR: 20.20, 3Bet Preflop: 4.88, Hands: 213)
BB: $25.00
UTG: $47.98 (VPIP: 34.35, PFR: 14.35, 3Bet Preflop: 2.13, Hands: 238)
Hero (MP): $25.35

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has A:club: A:diamond:

fold, Hero raises to $0.75, CO calls $0.75, BTN raises to $3.00, fold, fold, Hero raises to $7.75, fold, BTN raises to $26.63 and is all-in, Hero calls $17.60 and is all-in

Flop: ($51.80, 2 players) 5:spade: 3:heart: 6:club:

Turn: ($51.80, 2 players) Q:club:

River: ($51.80, 2 players) A:heart:

BTN shows K:spade: A:spade: (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 12%, Flop 6%, Turn 0%)
Hero shows A:club: A:diamond: (Three of a Kind, Aces)
(Pre 88%, Flop 94%, Turn 100%)
Hero wins $49.21

 

[Aces2w1n]

well done with winning session buddy... but remember to be ready to deposit more if your under rolled. But with that graph you won't need to... show me the money sir

 

[braveslice]

Even without the meta game you play well beyond most players skill level, personally even thought I can’t really comment too much, I do read and enjoy reading your comments/hands about the play.

Except bad beats, I don't like them.

 

[IPlay]

Yeah I try to avoid them but lately they have consumed me ;( Here are some run good/interesting hands.

First the run good, he snap called me down. This guy is one of the reasons I cheat BRM and play 25NL when he is there.

Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: $25.00 (VPIP: 27.54, PFR: 18.84, 3Bet Preflop: 8.51, Hands: 211)
BTN: $33.11 (VPIP: 25.61, PFR: 20.73, 3Bet Preflop: 10.26, Hands: 83)
SB: $51.44 (VPIP: 52.80, PFR: 43.20, 3Bet Preflop: 28.26, Hands: 133)
Hero (BB): $50.34
UTG: $62.56 (VPIP: 25.37, PFR: 14.99, 3Bet Preflop: 7.22, Hands: 960)

SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has T:spade: T:diamond:

fold, CO raises to $0.75, fold, fold, Hero raises to $2.50, CO calls $1.75

Flop: ($5.10, 2 players) T:heart: 3:heart: A:diamond:
Hero bets $3.23, CO calls $3.23

Turn: ($11.56, 2 players) A:heart:
Hero bets $5.49, CO calls $5.49

River: ($22.54, 2 players) 8:diamond:
Hero bets $14.28, CO calls $13.78 and is all-in

CO shows Q:diamond: K:diamond: (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 46%, Flop 16%, Turn 0%)
Hero shows T:spade: T:diamond: (Full House, Tens full of Aces)
(Pre 54%, Flop 84%, Turn 100%)
Hero wins $47.60

Good example of why you isolate deep fish.

Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: $25.00 (VPIP: 25.69, PFR: 17.43, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 110)
UTG: $25.70 (VPIP: 28.92, PFR: 21.23, 3Bet Preflop: 8.15, Hands: 335)
MP: $67.38 (VPIP: 54.78, PFR: 29.49, 3Bet Preflop: 6.15, Hands: 163)
Hero (CO): $60.21
BTN: $61.48 (VPIP: 25.64, PFR: 15.59, 3Bet Preflop: 7.89, Hands: 890)
SB: $28.62 (VPIP: 21.27, PFR: 17.14, 3Bet Preflop: 6.90, Hands: 319)

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has T:spade: J:spade:

fold, MP raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $3.25, fold, fold, fold, MP calls $2.50

Flop: ($6.85, 2 players) A:diamond: 4:heart: 3:diamond:
MP checks, Hero bets $3.75, MP calls $3.75

Turn: ($14.35, 2 players) Q:heart:
MP checks, Hero checks

River: ($14.35, 2 players) 9:spade:
MP checks, Hero checks

Hero shows T:spade: J:spade: (High Card, Ace)

Hero wins $13.64

This hand is interesting, villain has raised 2/10 flop cbets and has an AFq 59. Didn't think I beat much besides basic flush draws on the river. Still think calling would not have been bad but I don't mind my fold. Your guys thoughts?

Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: $51.69 (VPIP: 52.76, PFR: 43.31, 3Bet Preflop: 27.66, Hands: 135)
Hero (BTN): $72.84
SB: $62.31 (VPIP: 25.37, PFR: 15.03, 3Bet Preflop: 7.20, Hands: 964)

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has 9:heart: 9:club:

Hero raises to $0.75, fold, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.60, 2 players) 5:spade: 6:heart: 6:spade:
BB checks, Hero bets $1.00, BB raises to $3.25, Hero calls $2.25

Turn: ($8.10, 2 players) 4:diamond:
BB bets $4.75, Hero calls $4.75

River: ($17.60, 2 players) 8:diamond:
BB bets $11.25, fold

BB wins $16.72

This hand is against one of my nemesis and when reviewing my database I don't love the fold. My logic behind the fold is that while this villain is aggressive he rarely barrels complete air. I still think he could show up with AK/J10 but not sure if there is anything else I beat. Although I don't think he bets this sizing with AK on this run out.

Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: $25.77 (VPIP: 28.51, PFR: 22.37, 3Bet Preflop: 8.85, Hands: 1,774)
Hero (BB): $75.02
CO: $27.29 (VPIP: 13.79, PFR: 10.34, 3Bet Preflop: 1.92, Hands: 119)
BTN: $25.00 (VPIP: 26.25, PFR: 19.42, 3Bet Preflop: 7.74, Hands: 402)

SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has 8:club: K:spade:

fold, fold, SB raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.50, 2 players) 4:club: 8:diamond: K:diamond:
SB bets $0.71, Hero calls $0.71

Turn: ($2.92, 2 players) Q:spade:
SB bets $2.25, Hero calls $2.25

River: ($7.42, 2 players) 7:diamond:
SB bets $7.05, fold

SB wins $7.05

 

[IPlay]

One last hand for now. Villain is a little more on the passive side with an AFq 37 Didn't think I beat much on this flop. KQ, 87, 1010/99 all have me crushed and some monster straight/pair/flush draws is the only part of his range I'm a favorite against and its only 60/40. With this said should I just flat this flop if I'm folding to a raise?

Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BB): $28.63
UTG: $15.71 (VPIP: 17.57, PFR: 15.06, 3Bet Preflop: 8.05, Hands: 248)
MP: $30.68 (VPIP: 22.98, PFR: 19.88, 3Bet Preflop: 3.17, Hands: 166)
CO: $37.71 (VPIP: 21.52, PFR: 13.45, 3Bet Preflop: 3.45, Hands: 229)
BTN: $25.00 (VPIP: 26.30, PFR: 19.27, 3Bet Preflop: 7.64, Hands: 405)
SB: $59.17 (VPIP: 28.53, PFR: 22.43, 3Bet Preflop: 8.77, Hands: 1,787)

SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has T:diamond: J:diamond:

UTG raises to $0.60, fold, fold, BTN calls $0.60, fold, Hero calls $0.35

Flop: ($1.90, 3 players) T:club: J:heart: 9:heart:
Hero checks, UTG checks, BTN bets $1.25, Hero raises to $4.00, fold, BTN raises to $11.00, fold

BTN wins $9.41

 

[mbrenneman0]

One last hand for now. Villain is a little more on the passive side with an AFq 37 Didn't think I beat much on this flop. KQ, 87, 1010/99 all have me crushed and some monster straight/pair/flush draws is the only part of his range I'm a favorite against and its only 60/40. With this said should I just flat this flop if I'm folding to a raise?

Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BB): $28.63
UTG: $15.71 (VPIP: 17.57, PFR: 15.06, 3Bet Preflop: 8.05, Hands: 248)
MP: $30.68 (VPIP: 22.98, PFR: 19.88, 3Bet Preflop: 3.17, Hands: 166)
CO: $37.71 (VPIP: 21.52, PFR: 13.45, 3Bet Preflop: 3.45, Hands: 229)
BTN: $25.00 (VPIP: 26.30, PFR: 19.27, 3Bet Preflop: 7.64, Hands: 405)
SB: $59.17 (VPIP: 28.53, PFR: 22.43, 3Bet Preflop: 8.77, Hands: 1,787)

SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has T<font color='red'>♦</font> J<font color='red'>♦</font>

UTG raises to $0.60, fold, fold, BTN calls $0.60, fold, Hero calls $0.35

Flop: ($1.90, 3 players) T<font color='black'>♣</font> J<font color='red'>♥</font> 9<font color='red'>♥</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, BTN bets $1.25, Hero raises to $4.00, fold, BTN raises to $11.00, fold

BTN wins $9.41

i think flat would be good here to keep all his weaker hands in. im not sure 87 would be in his range since hes 17/15.. JJ and TT are possible but not likely, I think his range here is almost always AA, KK or KQ with a few random JJ or TT sometimes. flatting keeps all his AJ+, K10+ and Q10+ hands in right?

 

[Aces2w1n]

99 fold to the raise on flop.. rare someone spazzes out with Ax unless flush draw which is AK

K8s i wouldve raised somewhere ... its a blind battle so if just call whatever he dished. 2pair is nutty

 

[Beanfacekilla]

One last hand for now. Villain is a little more on the passive side with an AFq 37 Didn't think I beat much on this flop. KQ, 87, 1010/99 all have me crushed and some monster straight/pair/flush draws is the only part of his range I'm a favorite against and its only 60/40. With this said should I just flat this flop if I'm folding to a raise?

Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BB): $28.63
UTG: $15.71 (VPIP: 17.57, PFR: 15.06, 3Bet Preflop: 8.05, Hands: 248)
MP: $30.68 (VPIP: 22.98, PFR: 19.88, 3Bet Preflop: 3.17, Hands: 166)
CO: $37.71 (VPIP: 21.52, PFR: 13.45, 3Bet Preflop: 3.45, Hands: 229)
BTN: $25.00 (VPIP: 26.30, PFR: 19.27, 3Bet Preflop: 7.64, Hands: 405)
SB: $59.17 (VPIP: 28.53, PFR: 22.43, 3Bet Preflop: 8.77, Hands: 1,787)

SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has T<font color='red'>♦</font> J<font color='red'>♦</font>

UTG raises to $0.60, fold, fold, BTN calls $0.60, fold, Hero calls $0.35

Flop: ($1.90, 3 players) T<font color='black'>♣</font> J<font color='red'>♥</font> 9<font color='red'>♥</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, BTN bets $1.25, Hero raises to $4.00, fold, BTN raises to $11.00, fold

BTN wins $9.41

Just call flop. Don't C/R. We get caged if we are beat by K-Q, we allow V to play perfect if he bluffing, we also face tough decision if V ships on us. I like C/C way better, re-assess on the turn.

 

[IPlay]

Agree with you guys about JT, if I am going to fold to a 3 bet I should just flat.

K8 I wanted to raise somewhere but I slowplayed on the flop because he double barrels a lot so I played it slow and the Q was interesting and thought raising at that point would only get called by KQ and some diamonds that make a bad call. But villain is overall a good aggressive player so IDK if he calls with draws on the turn.

Got out to play some live poker tonight! Was nice to get back into the live arena and basically nut peddle against fish for decent chunks of money instead bashing my face off my keyboard for pennies. Was a tad boring though. There was one villain that raised to $20 about every other hand but I was to his left for almost the whole night and once I got position on him I was pretty card dead. Pick a few pots off him though and I was up to $450 from my original buyin of $300 and then this hand happened.

Villain in this hand is pretty snug for a live player but far from a good player. His starting stack $320.

Whale raises his typical $20, 1 call, Hero Calls, Fold x3 and villain calls from BB.

Hero has 8c8d

4 way to the flop($81) 8sAcJc

Whale Checks
Ohther Checks
Hero bets $60
BB calls, others fold.

Turn ($201) Kd
BB Goes all in $240, HERO ???

 

[warface]

Often raduy us your results and graphs I wonder to read and analyze your actions.

 

[Beanfacekilla]

Agree with you guys about JT, if I am going to fold to a 3 bet I should just flat.

K8 I wanted to raise somewhere but I slowplayed on the flop because he double barrels a lot so I played it slow and the Q was interesting and thought raising at that point would only get called by KQ and some diamonds that make a bad call. But villain is overall a good aggressive player so IDK if he calls with draws on the turn.

Got out to play some live poker tonight! Was nice to get back into the live arena and basically nut peddle against fish for decent chunks of money instead bashing my face off my keyboard for pennies. Was a tad boring though. There was one villain that raised to $20 about every other hand but I was to his left for almost the whole night and once I got position on him I was pretty card dead. Pick a few pots off him though and I was up to $450 from my original buyin of $300 and then this hand happened.

Villain in this hand is pretty snug for a live player but far from a good player. His starting stack $320.

Whale raises his typical $20, 1 call, Hero Calls, Fold x3 and villain calls from BB.

Hero has 8c8d

4 way to the flop($81) 8sAcJc

Whale Checks
Ohther Checks
Hero bets $60
BB calls, others fold.

Turn ($201) Kd
BB Goes all in $240, HERO ???

Snap call. If he has us with Broadway, he has us. There are many other hands he could have as well.

 

[IPlay]

Agree'd. My initial thought was to fold but thought about how he could be overplaying 2 pair here. I called and he had it but I felt confident the call was right. Was a tough one though.

I didn't have the balls to check/raise turn. He might be the type to check back AK

Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $12.10 (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
SB: $10.00 (VPIP: 25.01, PFR: 21.15, 3Bet Preflop: 9.35, Hands: 2,052)
BB: $10.00 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
Hero (UTG): $10.15
MP: $12.72 (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)
CO: $19.33 (VPIP: 14.00, PFR: 10.67, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, Hands: 314)

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has K:club: K:spade:

Hero raises to $0.30, MP raises to $0.90, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.95, 2 players) 6:club: K:heart: 9:club:
Hero checks, MP bets $0.93, Hero calls $0.93

Turn: ($3.81, 2 players) 4:diamond:
Hero bets $2.41, MP calls $2.41

River: ($8.63, 2 players) A:club:
Hero bets $5.91 and is all-in, MP calls $5.91

 

[Beanfacekilla]

Agree'd. My initial thought was to fold but thought about how he could be overplaying 2 pair here. I called and he had it but I felt confident the call was right. Was a tough one though.

I didn't have the balls to check/raise turn. He might be the type to check back AK

Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $12.10 (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
SB: $10.00 (VPIP: 25.01, PFR: 21.15, 3Bet Preflop: 9.35, Hands: 2,052)
BB: $10.00 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
Hero (UTG): $10.15
MP: $12.72 (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)
CO: $19.33 (VPIP: 14.00, PFR: 10.67, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, Hands: 314)

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has K<font color='black'>♣</font> K<font color='black'>♠</font>

Hero raises to $0.30, MP raises to $0.90, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.95, 2 players) 6<font color='black'>♣</font> K<font color='red'>♥</font> 9<font color='black'>♣</font>
Hero checks, MP bets $0.93, Hero calls $0.93

Turn: ($3.81, 2 players) 4<font color='red'>♦</font>
Hero bets $2.41, MP calls $2.41

River: ($8.63, 2 players) A<font color='black'>♣</font>
Hero bets $5.91 and is all-in, MP calls $5.91

Ah, this one. I'll be happy to give some thoughts....

So preflop, I like it. Keep his range wide. I'm on board here...


Turn, I like this as well. It looks goofy as all hell, and will probably confuse the villain.

So at this point, what the heck can this guy have, other than FD's and AA? That's what I kinda think he has. He would raise 9-9, he would raise 6-6 on the turn... so IMO he has AA, FDs, and maybe he's stubborn with QQ, JJ, 10-10....


So on the river, we aren't folding, unless the dude is like a super nit and passive, and he never bets a worse hand on the river if we check to him.

However, given the range, I think our best bet on the river is C/C, to induce him to stab with part of range that we beat, like 10-10~QQ. I feel like he def won't call with those, and highly unlikely he has AK, So I pretty much exclude that one.

Check call River. If he has AA or flush, at least we tried to make him bluff with worse part of range.