***December Degenerates Cash Game Regs Thread***

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behind, as usual....:(
 
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LO/LO8 conventional wisdom says never play a hand with trips in the hole.

Unconventional wisdom
 
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OSU #2 in the BCS rankings, mad joebob?
 
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Think they'll hold on to it if Auburn wins on Saturday?

yeah if they beat MSU. It would be incredibly hypocritical if Auburn jumps them after beating #5 mizzou, even though OSU would be undefeated and beating #11.

Crazier things have happened, but I just think it would cause an uproar if an undefeated team from the B10 gets jumped this late.
 
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If Auburn beats Missouri convincingly then between that and Alabama there's no chance they don't pass OSU.
 
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yeah if they beat MSU. It would be incredibly hypocritical if Auburn jumps them after beating #5 mizzou, even though OSU would be undefeated and beating #11.

Crazier things have happened, but I just think it would cause an uproar if an undefeated team from the B10 gets jumped this late.

B10 is kinda weak though. Anyway we'll see what happens on sat.
 
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Do we have a cash game thread for low/mid stakes on CC?
 
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Better be in for December if its for degens, everyone knows how crazy i am. Good luck in december cash regs. (**** off 9k)
 
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Never seen someone 4bet bluff the river before. Nice time for it to happen when I'm holding quads. I guess his reasoning is that I never have JJ I guess.

Not sure if I 3bet bluff this river much, I'd mostly be expecting to 3x and air. Readless I don't think I see enough air and expect 3x to call given the great odds and my lack of JJ. I really like villains initial raise.

$0.50/$1 Zoom No Limit Holdem
pokerstars
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($112.03) 112bb
UTG+1 ($212.12) 212bb
CO ($76.60) 77bb
BTN ($127.87) 128bb
SB ($40.32) 40bb
Hero (BB) ($252.38) 252bb

Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is BB :3h4: :3c4:
3 folds, BTN raises to $2, SB calls $1.50, Hero calls $1

Flop: :jd4: :7c4: :3d4: ($6, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: :3s4: ($6, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3.78, BTN calls $3.78, SB folds

River: :6h4: ($13.56, 2 players)
Hero bets $9.71, BTN raises to $21.55, Hero raises to $50, BTN goes all-in $122.09, Hero calls $72.09

Final Pot: $257.74
BTN shows two pair, Threes and Deuces
:2d4: :2c4:
Hero shows four of a kind, Threes
:3h4: :3c4:

Hero wins $254.94 (net +$127.07)

BTN lost $127.87
SB lost $2
 
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Caught the end of deal or no deal today, it got me thinking about some of the situations I see on the show and on how a poker player would approach the following scenarios.


Scenario 1.

Option A: The player can make a guess that 50% of the time will result in them winning $750 and 50% of the time result in them winning $4000

Option B: The player can make a guess that 50% of the time results in them winning $250 and 50% of the time results in them winning $4500


Scenario 2.

Option A: The player can make a guess that 50% of the time results in them winning $5000 and 50% of the time wins them $5500

Option B: The player makes a guess that 50% of the times results in winning $500 and 50% of the time results in a $10,000 win


Scenario 3.

Option A: The player can make a guess that results in winning $8000 half the time and $10,000 the other half

Option B: The player can make a guess that half the time wins them $3000 and the other half wins them $15000



In each case the players in question would take option B as far as I can tell they only took option B because they had a "feeling" about which case contained the bigger $ amount. Technically speaking the EV of each option is identical, the only difference is the variance. Its basically gambling with the difference. I figure this to be a somewhat similar situation to what some poker players might get when they reach heads up in a MTT and have the option of taking a deal.

Which options would you take?
 
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A in all of them, people are inherently risk averse, will need a higher EV for me to justify taking on more rosk
 
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They have shown that you can offer someone less than half of a meaningful money coinflip, and most rational people take it
 
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They have shown that you can offer someone less than half of a meaningful money coinflip, and most rational people take it

Which could probably be utilized by winning players, or at least strong negotiators when it comes to making deals at final tables.
 
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It kind of reminds me of a video on youtube where a bunch of pros take a 5 way all in preflop in the dark on one of the poker shows (poker after dark I think. I think it was Negreanu, Hansen, Ivey, Antonius, and one of the other high stakes pros (Helmuth didn't want to take part ut still had to post the $100 ante). Each of them agreed to make a $100,000 bet preflop without looking at the cards. The youtube comments were mostly amamant at people willing to gamble this much, however EV wise for these guys and their rolls it's not actually that bad a bet considering the stakes they normally play plus some of them actually play -ev house games.


In this case it would technically be -ev because of the rake that was taken (though helmuths $100 ante adds some extra ev) It kind of made me wonder would you take this 20% shot at making 5 times your money? what if it was a couple of buy ins at your regular stake and 10% of the buy in was added as ev? i.e if you play 100NL would you be willing to go all in blind in a no rake home game with 5 players if you could win $550?
 
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In this case it would technically be -ev because of the rake that was taken (though helmuths $100 ante adds some extra ev) It kind of made me wonder would you take this 20% shot at making 5 times your money? what if it was a couple of buy ins at your regular stake and 10% of the buy in was added as ev? i.e if you play 100NL would you be willing to go all in blind in a no rake home game with 5 players if you could win $550?

For some of the players in that game (whatever game it is) it'd be their best shot at winning anything that night lol. The better players in that game wouldn't be able to effect their poker skill however on the outcome. Poker players are all degens tho so yeah they'd do it too.
 
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