Winning a freeroll tournament is harder than winning other types of tournaments?

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They are harder because its free, that's why most of the people play bingo.
Even some of cardschat members who i have encountered in the daily freerolls play a lot of bingo, so how can we expect outsiders to play like pro's??:eek:
Nothing to do about it, just go with the flow and always maintain a good poker player's attitude, no matter if the rest is playing bingo;)

Gl at the tables, and may the cards be with you:)
 
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no I thing otherwise lessplayers and more chanse for a win......
 
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a lot of the time there is over 1000 players especially on BOL..odds of winning are less and it is very time consuming..but since its free.. I keep on keepin on..
 
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I think there is no big difference, but for freerolls field is softer ;)
 
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In my experience, making it passed the the initial portion of the tournament is the hardest part. It's difficult to build a stack without some luck on your side.
 
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You get so many players on a freeroll its super hard, but with a little bit of luck you can make it happen.
 
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Yes,first hour have to play bingo after that more careful ,and last hour luck is obligatory..
 
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I have participated in several freeroll tournaments but never won any.
Are freeroll tournaments really harder to win than other tournament types?

I would say freerolls are the hardest to win then sit and go's or slower tourneys because players are looser and it has a lot more luck then skill involved.

I play a lot of freerolls because of promotional rewards but it hasn't worked out for me just yet.
 
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I tnink large freerolls make you better and makes you have a stronger game when it comes to real mtt
 
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yes they are harder many donks that would call anything and you get crush on the beginning of the first level even after people won't fold they most of them rather loose than to take a bluff so its harder many calling stations. also the amount of entries compare to a regular tourney at your local casino or even not a freeroll
 
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Freeroll or money tournament.. I think they are the same with small differences in style of play and thinking.
When I say style of play I mean that it only changes the beginning of the tournament when in a freeroll everyone plays bingo to grow fast.
And I'm thinking that there is not much difference from tournaments for money, only that some players who have some idea of playing poker will run into players who do not have much idea in a freeroll and can lose a lot like thinking in favor of own game.
 
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wsop ME is harder to win cause most ppl can't afford the buy in!
 
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I think I had to play about 40 stars freerolls before I won anything. Definitely an excellent investment of my time to make 1c..
 
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It's a bingo. Lots of people just playing any-two cards. Your gonna win pots with trash hands and your going to lose pots with AA. I don't know what you mean by "win" I haven't come in first place but I've cashed many. On ACR freerolls i have about 3% win/cash rate. On a comparison of quality players, my win/cash rate for CC freerolls is 40%
 
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Yes, they are harder.
Psychology is always a major factor in our game. If you were in a head's up match where your opponent had no risk and all reward but you had a standard setup, do you not think the two of you would play differently? You might think that is not possible. It is. If you're a billionaire playing in the 1m 1drop (before they stopped allowing poker players) and your opponent got in with a deal that required anywhere from $0-X of his own money and he walks away with anywhere from $1-0.5xWin, you don't see a difference?

Point is, I've played literally everything and, present-day, freerolls are tougher. They remind me of the good old days when you could enter an MTT for $11 and walk away with over $11k for first!

I've won plenty in them. In fact, I can almost guarantee that I've won more freerolls in the last 14 months than anyone else on here. I'd venture to guess I may have the most $ won in them, too, due to bigger wins of $182 (live streamed, available on youtube) down to $36. But probably not as almost the first year I only knew about WPN's $10 OD, and then eventually the Jackpot Freerolls on there too. I've been banned from sites because they thought I was a freeroll bot, as if that would be a better idea than building one that plays in bigger games.
 
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I think freeroll is much harder to play. Too many players who do not think or appreciate their stack. Right, because after losing, they do not risk anything. On this it is more difficult to understand whether they have something or they have moved all in with 49
 
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Freerolls are different from tournaments with money.
Well, and of course the difference in the pace of playing freerolls faster there is nothing to sacrifice.
 
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Because in the money freerolls they play much better players than in the free tournaments!
 
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People tend to not appreciate anything that comes for free lol (though I'm not sure that micro rebuy tourneys differ that much from freerolls). I'd say winning a freeroll largely depends on how long the levels are, if it's a tourney with normal speed blinds you can always wait for a hand and more likely you're gonna double up. Tight-agressive is a key IMO. GL.
 
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People tend to not appreciate anything that comes for free lol (though I'm not sure that micro rebuy tourneys differ that much from freerolls). I'd say winning a freeroll largely depends on how long the levels are, if it's a tourney with normal speed blinds you can always wait for a hand and more likely you're gonna double up. Tight-agressive is a key IMO. GL.

"Tight, aggressive, that's your style, Professor. And if it's good enough to call, you need to be raising..."

Sorry. :smile: I love Rounders.
 
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From my experience there is a lot of bad players at freerolls and you will ship this tournaments harder because of big number of bad beats which happens usualy on these kind of tournaments
 
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From my experience there is a lot of bad players at freerolls and you will ship this tournaments harder because of big number of bad beats which happens usualy on these kind of tournaments

I'm not sure I completely followed...
But assuming I did, your statement is backed up by both data and math.

1) If you can find a study (since you might not have 1-3 years to conduct your own) it will show that "unfavorable hand-to-hand outcomes" happen at a higher frequency in these events.

2) From a mathematical/Economics perspective, this was already hypothesized by many of us well before Moneymaker was a World Champion...

The fun math/econ game to play to prove this to yourself (feel free to play for hours every week for years until you concur) is "open face Hold'em." Very simple rules, yet only us true geeks are winners at the game long-term. Essentially just a Hold'em game, except that instead of dealing 9 or 10 pairs of hole cards face down, you deal them face up. Then whatever "per round bet size" everyone has agreed upon, you place on the hand of your choosing.

blah blah blah point is, when you play with amateurs, way too often they'll just all jump on the super premium hands and God forbid AA be dealt, all of them throw their money on it. Then I put my $ on 67s and obviously odds are in my favor with my $x able to win all their $$$$$$$$x, yet if their better hand holds up, they all split my $x. Eventually, they learn to not always pick the favorite and the game really starts. For me, though, it was always just about recording all outcomes and seeing how "short-term" any one session/tournament can be, with much variance and longshot winners.
 
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I don't think the freerolls hard at the early stage of the tournament because one is not looking much on the cards. and a hope for good luck. At the freerolls is always a weak field of players but a lot of them and that think that they are difficult to play.
 
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I have participated in several freeroll tournaments but never won any.
Are freeroll tournaments really harder to win than other tournament types?
How many is 'several'.

If you're talking only 3-5 freerolls, not winning any doesn't really mean much. Take any tournament and play it only 3-5 times and likely aren't going to win any of those either.
 
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Most freerolls are played by a large number of participants. Opponents often poke weak cards in the hope of success. If you play cautiously, then with a determined share of luck, you can wait for the bubble, well, then - on the map. Good luck to all.
 
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