AA and short stack what do i do?

[hbkmad]

Stage #1456977914 Tourney ID 1859509 Holdem Single Tournament No Limit $60 - 2009-02-09 00:37:58 (ET)
Table: 26858606 (real money) Seat #2 is the dealer
Seat 1 - - - - - - MRD ($1945 in chips)
Seat 2 - BIGISLANDMAN ($2595 in chips)
Seat 4 - JAKESNAKE55 ($1115 in chips)
Seat 7 - LONERUSS70 ($2870 in chips)
Seat 8 - FOLDERR ($1751.55 in chips)
Seat 9 - THEMOR ($3223.45 in chips)
JAKESNAKE55 - Posts small blind $30
LONERUSS70 - Posts big blind $60
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to JAKESNAKE55 [Ac Ah]
FOLDERR - Calls $60
THEMOR - Folds
- - - - - MRD - Folds
BIGISLANDMAN - Folds
JAKESNAKE55 - ??

 

[switch0723]

everything but not raise

 

[t1riel]

You're not that shortstacked. Raise it to at least $200 total.

 

[Jillychemung]

Make your normal raise here just like any other playable hand. 3xBB+1BB (for limper) or 3.5xBB+1BB or 4xBB+1BB Now if the BB is a defender or UTG has routinely called after a limp then make your raise larger to get more value out of them.

 

[hbkmad]

made a 3X bb bet

ok so i don't know if i calucatulate this right but i counted how many times the villian has put money in the pot 50% of the time. I don't have a HEM or poker tracker so i had to count how many times. SO in the pot right now is 480. How much do you bet or do u push all in on the flop.

Stage #1456977914 Tourney ID 1859509 Holdem Single Tournament No Limit $60 - 2009-02-09 00:37:58 (ET)
Table: 26858606 (Real Money) Seat #2 is the dealer
Seat 1 - - - - - - MRD ($1945 in chips)
Seat 2 - BIGISLANDMAN ($2595 in chips)
Seat 4 - JAKESNAKE55 ($1115 in chips)
Seat 7 - LONERUSS70 ($2870 in chips)
Seat 8 - FOLDERR ($1751.55 in chips)
Seat 9 - THEMOR ($3223.45 in chips)
JAKESNAKE55 - Posts small blind $30
LONERUSS70 - Posts big blind $60
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to JAKESNAKE55 [Ac Ah]
FOLDERR - Calls $60
THEMOR - Folds
- - - - - MRD - Folds
BIGISLANDMAN - Folds
JAKESNAKE55 - Raises $180 to $210
LONERUSS70 - Folds
FOLDERR - Calls $150
*** FLOP *** [Qs Qc 9s]
JAKESNAKE55 -??

 

[peacebrother]

not that short, slow play for max value

 

[TheUndertaker]

I would go all-in and hope he doesn't have an Q but thats just me.Only go all-in if you believe you have the best hand.

 

[ICU2QTPY]

Raise your AA three times the big blind to get some fishies in, when the flop hits no matter what it is, move it all in.

........and hope there's not two sixes on the board........lol

 

[hbkmad]

so on the turn

some interesting points you guys have made. i make half the pot bet and he calls so he must have something, so now on the turn i think my only option is either push or fold, bc i only have half my stack remaining. but i will let you guys decide what to do here give me reasons why remember villian been playing about 50 percent of the time

Stage #1456977914 Tourney ID 1859509 Holdem Single Tournament No Limit $60 - 2009-02-09 00:37:58 (ET)
Table: 26858606 (Real Money) Seat #2 is the dealer
Seat 1 - - - - - - MRD ($1945 in chips)
Seat 2 - BIGISLANDMAN ($2595 in chips)
Seat 4 - JAKESNAKE55 ($1115 in chips)
Seat 7 - LONERUSS70 ($2870 in chips)
Seat 8 - FOLDERR ($1751.55 in chips)
Seat 9 - THEMOR ($3223.45 in chips)
JAKESNAKE55 - Posts small blind $30
LONERUSS70 - Posts big blind $60
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to JAKESNAKE55 [Ac Ah]
FOLDERR - Calls $60
THEMOR - Folds
- - - - - MRD - Folds
BIGISLANDMAN - Folds
JAKESNAKE55 - Raises $180 to $210
LONERUSS70 - Folds
FOLDERR - Calls $150
*** FLOP *** [Qs Qc 9s]
JAKESNAKE55 - Bets $240
FOLDERR - Calls $240
*** TURN *** [Qs Qc 9s] [9c]
JAKESNAKE55 - ?

 

[kcirjr]

You need to raise, if you dont raise it will catch up to you, always does. In your position you need not a big raise but a raise where he will call then move in on flop unless its dreadful flop for you. You want him in but only if he is willing to pay.

 

[shinedown.45]

ok so i don't know if i calucatulate this right but i counted how many times the villian has put money in the pot 50% of the time. I don't have a HEM or poker tracker so i had to count how many times. SO in the pot right now is 480. How much do you bet or do u push all in on the flop.

Stage #1456977914 Tourney ID 1859509 Holdem Single Tournament No Limit $60 - 2009-02-09 00:37:58 (ET)
Table: 26858606 (Real Money) Seat #2 is the dealer
Seat 1 - - - - - - MRD ($1945 in chips)
Seat 2 - BIGISLANDMAN ($2595 in chips)
Seat 4 - JAKESNAKE55 ($1115 in chips)
Seat 7 - LONERUSS70 ($2870 in chips)
Seat 8 - FOLDERR ($1751.55 in chips)
Seat 9 - THEMOR ($3223.45 in chips)
JAKESNAKE55 - Posts small blind $30
LONERUSS70 - Posts big blind $60
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to JAKESNAKE55 [Ac Ah]
FOLDERR - Calls $60
THEMOR - Folds
- - - - - MRD - Folds
BIGISLANDMAN - Folds
JAKESNAKE55 - Raises $180 to $210
LONERUSS70 - Folds
FOLDERR - Calls $150
*** FLOP *** [Qs Qc 9s]
JAKESNAKE55 -??

I would bet 1/2-3/4 pot here and fold to any re-raise but leaning more towards 1/2 pot as a 3/4 pot might just commit you.
I just may be a big nit though

 

[shinedown.45]

some interesting points you guys have made. i make half the pot bet and he calls so he must have something, so now on the turn i think my only option is either push or fold, bc i only have half my stack remaining. but i will let you guys decide what to do here give me reasons why remember villian been playing about 50 percent of the time

Stage #1456977914 Tourney ID 1859509 Holdem Single Tournament No Limit $60 - 2009-02-09 00:37:58 (ET)
Table: 26858606 (Real Money) Seat #2 is the dealer
Seat 1 - - - - - - MRD ($1945 in chips)
Seat 2 - BIGISLANDMAN ($2595 in chips)
Seat 4 - JAKESNAKE55 ($1115 in chips)
Seat 7 - LONERUSS70 ($2870 in chips)
Seat 8 - FOLDERR ($1751.55 in chips)
Seat 9 - THEMOR ($3223.45 in chips)
JAKESNAKE55 - Posts small blind $30
LONERUSS70 - Posts big blind $60
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to JAKESNAKE55 [Ac Ah]
FOLDERR - Calls $60
THEMOR - Folds
- - - - - MRD - Folds
BIGISLANDMAN - Folds
JAKESNAKE55 - Raises $180 to $210
LONERUSS70 - Folds
FOLDERR - Calls $150
*** FLOP *** [Qs Qc 9s]
JAKESNAKE55 - Bets $240
FOLDERR - Calls $240
*** TURN *** [Qs Qc 9s] 9♣
JAKESNAKE55 - ?

You only have 2 options here: Check/fold or push.
If you had noticed villian to be passive throughout the whole time you were at the table I would push otherwise just check/fold.
just my opinion.

 

[bob_tiger]

Stage #1456977914 Tourney ID 1859509 Holdem Single Tournament No Limit $60 - 2009-02-09 00:37:58 (ET)
Table: 26858606 (Real Money) Seat #2 is the dealer
Seat 1 - - - - - - MRD ($1945 in chips)
Seat 2 - BIGISLANDMAN ($2595 in chips)
Seat 4 - JAKESNAKE55 ($1115 in chips)
Seat 7 - LONERUSS70 ($2870 in chips)
Seat 8 - FOLDERR ($1751.55 in chips)
Seat 9 - THEMOR ($3223.45 in chips)
JAKESNAKE55 - Posts small blind $30
LONERUSS70 - Posts big blind $60
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to JAKESNAKE55 [Ac Ah]
FOLDERR - Calls $60
THEMOR - Folds
- - - - - MRD - Folds
BIGISLANDMAN - Folds
JAKESNAKE55 - ??

First of all, what are you doing play $60 sngs if you can't handle such a simple hand? Second of all, this is 6 handed, blinds are still small so you make your standard raise and go from there. Third, you did not provide as with any reads on villain, I'm assuming you know something about him.
After you raise to 210, with you reads on villain, did you try to put him on a range of hands like what kind of hands he limp calls with.
ON the flop, the flop texture is so drawy that you just can't bet half of pot, you need to bet more to really figure out what kind of hands villain maybe calling you with. Anyways, not trying to be mean or anything but you are not ready for 60$ sngs, the regs will chew you up and take your money.

 

[FatBasset]

By this point on the turn with two pair on the board you are beat unless your opponent will call with air or plays some kind of straight draw. If he has Q or 9 you have only 2 outs or about 5% to hit on river. You have to make a judgment call on what percentage of the time he is playing a hand you can beat plus the 5% you can hit an ace. Then decide what your odds of cashing would be if you fold. If you think your odds of cashing if you fold are less than your odds of winning the hand then push all in.

 

[witl69]

When you have such a monster han here you have to at least bet 4 times the pot or go all in if you dont have that much left and as soon as the flop hits then you have to go all in no matter what the hit is because if you wait and just bet small your giveing them a chance to chase and catch something

 

[switch0723]

fwiw, im pretty nitty postflop, so im check/calling the flop, and betting turn and river for value if villain checks flop behind. As played, im prob check/calling here, don't see how check/folding can be an option with most of our stack

 

[shinedown.45]

fwiw, im pretty nitty postflop, so im check/calling the flop, and betting turn and river for value if villain checks flop behind. As played, im prob check/calling here, don't see how check/folding can be an option with most of our stack

I was going to edit my analysis but it was late and I wanted to sleep.
I would have to say a check/call is weak considering that any bet villian would make at this point would commit OP to the pot IMO, and a push or check/push or even a check/fold(not really liking this option though).

FWIW, I'm working on aggression in my game ATM

 

[HipHopStoner]

I hate slow playing aces personally but sometimes you need to win a big pot its a chance you have to take letting people see the flop. Typically 3X or more is a good start as everyone else was saying.

Good luck and I hope your aces don't crack

 

[Janon]

i would raise 4 to 5 times the big blind shows u have a strong hand and i would just push after the flop no matter wat it is thats just me tho

 

[silverslugger33]

i would raise 4 to 5 times the big blind shows u have a strong hand and i would just push after the flop no matter wat it is thats just me tho

You're falling into a trap that many players fall into. You are way too scared to play this hand all the way through, so you are making a massive overbet on the flop. On almost any flop, you'll have the best hand, but likely not get called. Look at his chip stack. After the preflop action, he'll have over 900 left, and the pot will be somewhere around 400. You are suggesting that he should make a bet of 2.25 times the pot. No one is calling that without a monster, and unless you hit an ace, a monster has you beat. If you think you are that poor a postflop player that you have to get all your chips in, then work on your game. Otherwise, gradually build the pot.

 

[mkmn]

raise two to three times the blind and hope someone reraises u down the line.

 

[Passion_play]

Pot committed..
He either has KK or AA pretty sick if he has K 10
I can't see him calling your initial pre flop raise with anything else.

 

[OzExorcist]

Pot committed..
He either has KK or AA pretty sick if he has K 10
I can't see him calling your initial pre flop raise with anything else.

You can't see AQ, T9 or a medium pair calling?

Anywho, in this spot OP has to figure to be either way ahead or way behind. We're way ahead of lower pocket pairs, flush draws and odd straight draws, and we're way behind Qx / 9x hands.

I figure the former is a lot more likely than the latter and as played I shove the turn. That makes it 665 for villain to call in a 1625 pot so you're still a decent chance to get action from the hands you beat and if you're crushed you're crushed - you can hope for your miracle two-outer (unless they've got quads, in which case oops).

 

[nutzzcase]

I would raise to 200 since you are the shortest stck

 

[hbkmad]

First of all, what are you doing play $60 sngs if you can't handle such a simple hand? Second of all, this is 6 handed, blinds are still small so you make your standard raise and go from there. Third, you did not provide as with any reads on villain, I'm assuming you know something about him.
After you raise to 210, with you reads on villain, did you try to put him on a range of hands like what kind of hands he limp calls with.
ON the flop, the flop texture is so drawy that you just can't bet half of pot, you need to bet more to really figure out what kind of hands villain maybe calling you with. Anyways, not trying to be mean or anything but you are not ready for 60$ sngs, the regs will chew you up and take your money.

it was not 60 dollar sng it was 60 cent sng and it was a 9 player single table sit n go.