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Luvepoker
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The poker sites dont cheat and rig the game. My opinion on this as I have not seen any proof otherwise. The thing I find funny is so many will make this clame and there are supposedly big winners but dont prove its true or there could be the possibility they made mistake that cost them is not even an option.
online poker may not be perfect but I dont believe its rigged.
online poker may not be perfect but I dont believe its rigged.
perrypip
Rock Star
Silver Level
Blame it on rigging instead of trying to improve your poker game. That's a formula for winning.
Maxmustdie
Legend
Bronze Level
bots and cartels are the reality of online poker
SNG, spins and HU are already dead as a discipline
the only rooms that have a solid security service are pokerstars and 888 poker,
i do not trust the rest of the rooms
an ACR does not ban bots, party poker does not ban bots and scammers, this is a fact
SNG, spins and HU are already dead as a discipline
the only rooms that have a solid security service are pokerstars and 888 poker,
i do not trust the rest of the rooms
an ACR does not ban bots, party poker does not ban bots and scammers, this is a fact
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SuiGeneris89
Rock Star
Silver Level
I think ACR is VERY questionable. Some days it plays like real poker, other days it's bad beats and insanity like no other. I've only been playing 2 tables at a time for 2 hours, and i've lost to quads 2x already.... And I see quads every other day? No, not realistic. It's not variance, it's algorthyms. but, sure, defend blindly that it's all legit.. . Like the federal reserve, there'll never be a real audit.
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Joe1
Rock Star
Bronze Level
Unfortunately, I have no experience with the site, but I think that you should take the chance if you are already offered to play for free, I think it is a good opportunity ... if you finally cheat nobody knows except those who do it
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Kayott77
Rising Star
Bronze Level
Acr is in fact rigged easy to prove
I've been playing there for a long time and I am 100% sure its rigged in everyway it can be, but you just can't say a site is rigged you need to look at patterns of things going on certain players hand history, I've even recorded things but nobody seems to care or I'm just a horrible player and I need to learn how to play that's what the employees will say. If anyone would like me to prove the things I'm saying are true I invite you to watch when I play and I will even be talking to anyone that wants to on messenger or something and I can tell you what's going to happen most of the time when certain accounts are playing what's going to happen, I can tell you what cards will hit and what cards won't come I mean because it's so random and everything. Yes they use house accounts and theses are very easy to figure out. Besides the accounts that I already know are house accounts every couple days you will see a bunch of new accounts and the reason I notice this is because I play mostly plo8 and when I see 10 new accounts in one day I look them up and they were created all of them 10 years ago and then they all just start playing again well then I know those are accounts that the site uses and they just keep recycling accounts because people keep figureing out who the house accounts are. Don't go by if someone chats or not because the site will have the accounts talking but you can't get a real conversation usually just a couple words or maybe sentences, now before any of you ACR employee f**k tards come and say I don't know what I'm talking about or I can't play poker I've been watching this site for along time and I also took 3rd in plo8 at wsop and cashed in the main event the same year so I have my shit together I know what I'm talking about the site is a str8 scam through And through go fund a real job!!!!:icon_sant
I've been playing there for a long time and I am 100% sure its rigged in everyway it can be, but you just can't say a site is rigged you need to look at patterns of things going on certain players hand history, I've even recorded things but nobody seems to care or I'm just a horrible player and I need to learn how to play that's what the employees will say. If anyone would like me to prove the things I'm saying are true I invite you to watch when I play and I will even be talking to anyone that wants to on messenger or something and I can tell you what's going to happen most of the time when certain accounts are playing what's going to happen, I can tell you what cards will hit and what cards won't come I mean because it's so random and everything. Yes they use house accounts and theses are very easy to figure out. Besides the accounts that I already know are house accounts every couple days you will see a bunch of new accounts and the reason I notice this is because I play mostly plo8 and when I see 10 new accounts in one day I look them up and they were created all of them 10 years ago and then they all just start playing again well then I know those are accounts that the site uses and they just keep recycling accounts because people keep figureing out who the house accounts are. Don't go by if someone chats or not because the site will have the accounts talking but you can't get a real conversation usually just a couple words or maybe sentences, now before any of you ACR employee f**k tards come and say I don't know what I'm talking about or I can't play poker I've been watching this site for along time and I also took 3rd in plo8 at wsop and cashed in the main event the same year so I have my shit together I know what I'm talking about the site is a str8 scam through And through go fund a real job!!!!:icon_sant
NDRWTRLGC
Rock Star
Silver Level
absolutely
they may say the RNG is pure but I can attest to the fact that WAY MORE OFTEN than not, STRAIGHTS, FLUSHES and OTHER UNLIKELY hands fill up by the river compared to more legit sites such as Pokerstars, not to mention mathematical probabiblity. Pretty easy to see if you have half a brain and can detect unusual patterns.
AND YES I know what you might say, something to the effect of 'thats just the pattern seeking part of the brain noticing and remembering these things while forgetting all the other times they DIDN'T HAPPEN, however I am aware of these things as well and thought I have no way to prove this stance I am fairly convinced, even beyond a reasonable doubt, as you might say, base on my experience.
By the way, I am not just another sore loser who needs to vent. I play on ACR and affiliates with full knowledge that this is not an unlikely scenario. I am also around the break even point on the site at this point in time and quite like their software besides all that.
I went on a massive winning streak earlier this year where I amassed over 7K in dollar winnings playing low and micro stakes in the period of about thirty days. I attribute some of this to possibly being on the good side of luck for most of that month but that doesn't mean I still don't think the site is rigged and rigged for action. I've given most of that back since but hey that is poker right (?)
one interesting argument I read a while back was from some unknown who stated something to the effect of sites such as these rigging the algorithm to keep money circulating in the player pool, and thus the site and its ability to rake such money as long as possible before it inevitably makes its way to the top and spills over into the sharks bank accounts.
interesting. and would not surprise me in the least tbqh
over and out
they may say the RNG is pure but I can attest to the fact that WAY MORE OFTEN than not, STRAIGHTS, FLUSHES and OTHER UNLIKELY hands fill up by the river compared to more legit sites such as Pokerstars, not to mention mathematical probabiblity. Pretty easy to see if you have half a brain and can detect unusual patterns.
AND YES I know what you might say, something to the effect of 'thats just the pattern seeking part of the brain noticing and remembering these things while forgetting all the other times they DIDN'T HAPPEN, however I am aware of these things as well and thought I have no way to prove this stance I am fairly convinced, even beyond a reasonable doubt, as you might say, base on my experience.
By the way, I am not just another sore loser who needs to vent. I play on ACR and affiliates with full knowledge that this is not an unlikely scenario. I am also around the break even point on the site at this point in time and quite like their software besides all that.
I went on a massive winning streak earlier this year where I amassed over 7K in dollar winnings playing low and micro stakes in the period of about thirty days. I attribute some of this to possibly being on the good side of luck for most of that month but that doesn't mean I still don't think the site is rigged and rigged for action. I've given most of that back since but hey that is poker right (?)
one interesting argument I read a while back was from some unknown who stated something to the effect of sites such as these rigging the algorithm to keep money circulating in the player pool, and thus the site and its ability to rake such money as long as possible before it inevitably makes its way to the top and spills over into the sharks bank accounts.
interesting. and would not surprise me in the least tbqh
over and out
Luvart
Legend
Platinum Level
Americas Cardroom has made significant steps over the last years to become a reliable and trustworthy poker site.
But we know that nothing on the online world has the credibility and technical ability of Pokerstars when it comes to safety issues. At least for now.
It's possible to be nasty behaviours and cheating at ACR.
Report any suspicious behaviour you see.
But we know that nothing on the online world has the credibility and technical ability of Pokerstars when it comes to safety issues. At least for now.
It's possible to be nasty behaviours and cheating at ACR.
Report any suspicious behaviour you see.
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Osamathellama
Rising Star
Bronze Level
Reg Players collusion is pretty blatant, but I don't think ACR itself rigs anything
The cardroom itself doesn't seem to rig anything that I can tell, but the reg players absolutely go out of their way to knock non-reg players off tourney tables and keep each other in while approach ITM.
Just open up multiple tourney tables and watch while approaching the bubble, the usual names raise a pot and everyone folds until a non-reg enters the pot, then the table suddenly becomes alert and coordinates to cover / all-in that player to knock them off the table.
Variance is one thing and sucks, but the collusion makes it near impossible to place ITM on tourneys there, and support saying they do anything at all to curb it is an absolute joke.
That said I still enjoy tournaments for the most part, but when you realize the entire table around you is coordinating to knock you out before ITM bubble, it pretty much ruins the entire experience to that point.
Sometimes they don't even hide it, I've seen it in the table chat multiple times in tourneys, I'd honestly rather ACR rig the cards than deal with player collusion but either way I still enjoy knocking those bone heads off tourney tables
Good luck with your own tourney battles!
The cardroom itself doesn't seem to rig anything that I can tell, but the reg players absolutely go out of their way to knock non-reg players off tourney tables and keep each other in while approach ITM.
Just open up multiple tourney tables and watch while approaching the bubble, the usual names raise a pot and everyone folds until a non-reg enters the pot, then the table suddenly becomes alert and coordinates to cover / all-in that player to knock them off the table.
Variance is one thing and sucks, but the collusion makes it near impossible to place ITM on tourneys there, and support saying they do anything at all to curb it is an absolute joke.
That said I still enjoy tournaments for the most part, but when you realize the entire table around you is coordinating to knock you out before ITM bubble, it pretty much ruins the entire experience to that point.
Sometimes they don't even hide it, I've seen it in the table chat multiple times in tourneys, I'd honestly rather ACR rig the cards than deal with player collusion but either way I still enjoy knocking those bone heads off tourney tables
Good luck with your own tourney battles!
xOneCoolHandx
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Bronze Level
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LedZeffelin
Rock Star
Silver Level
@Kayott77 You are selling ACR short. Why would the same not apply to any unregulated cite? Same applies to ignition, Bet on Line, etc. There are NO RULES NO LAWS NO OVERSIGHT why on gods green earth would you ever play on those sites in the US. WSOP in Vegas is assuredly legit. Everywhere else not so much unless legal. Ask Jonathan Little. He's won MILLIONS in poker and he got banned from ACR for speaking the truth!!!
Seriously though, these cites are totally unregulated. You should be kicked out of criminal school if you weren't cheating. How many people generally wouldn't cheat given the opportunity to do so with impunity. 50% of everyone??? Palease. Almost 50% voted for Trump after he was proven to be a cheat and a liar over 15,000 times. But those 76,000,000 wouldn't cheat you if they could? Why? It's bad for business? BS. THEY CAN CHEAT WITH IMPUNITY AGAINST U.S. PLAYERS. So they are. Get used to it.
Seriously though, these cites are totally unregulated. You should be kicked out of criminal school if you weren't cheating. How many people generally wouldn't cheat given the opportunity to do so with impunity. 50% of everyone??? Palease. Almost 50% voted for Trump after he was proven to be a cheat and a liar over 15,000 times. But those 76,000,000 wouldn't cheat you if they could? Why? It's bad for business? BS. THEY CAN CHEAT WITH IMPUNITY AGAINST U.S. PLAYERS. So they are. Get used to it.
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Herkstwin
Legend
Bronze Level
Just had another fun evening reading another 'online poker is rigged' thread on Cardschat. All kinds of proof. Even a badly written, dated paper with less than 60,000 hands for 'evidence'.
If anyone has the proof, file a class action lawsuit. Bring em down in court. That'll teach em.
If anyone has the proof, file a class action lawsuit. Bring em down in court. That'll teach em.
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plan
Enthusiast
Silver Level
Yes, and it's on many sites.Scammers or not, not caught - not a thief.What about the license, the checks?
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DrChess
Rising Star
Bronze Level
Take your medicine.
DanielSnrL
Rock Star
Silver Level
Surely there should be a thorough investigation.
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