ACR 10 dollar on demand freerolls-BOTS

[RogueRivered]

What is your proof that they are bots?

Yeah, that's what everybody says. Here's my answer. I have evidence, lots of evidence. Whether you accept it with an open mind, carefully weigh what I'm showing you, and make an informed decision, that's up to you. You are the jury. Obviously, I'm not going to be able to subpoena the ISPs of these bot users, get a search warrant from a judge, and seize the offending computers.

What I can do is show you that there are well over 100 players in the ACR $10 freerolls and low-buy-in tournaments that play 24 hours a day, have almost exactly the same stats per sharkscope, play an unbelievable amount of freerolls, have matching profit graphs. And on top of all that, you just need to go watch them for yourself, especially at the final table.

Just give me your permission to send you a private message, and I will send you a spreadsheet showing 25 of these players that make it certain that it is a computer playing multiple screen names, not a human.

Same offer goes for anyone else. I have the evidence -- it's up to you to be the jury and judge. Please don't say, "Oh, I don't think bots would play freerolls," or "I don't think bots can play tournaments," or some other uninformed opinion. Look at the evidence, and go in with an open mind.

 

[RogueRivered]

Hello buddy,

We will look into the accounts and take the proper actions if these players are indeed using Bots to play at our tables. If a player tried to use this kind of software in our tables, his account and all accounts associated with his will be closed automatically and immediately.

Regards

Hi Back, Buddy,

I have submitted several names to your Security Department, and yet these players still show up in every tournament.

Now that I know what to look for, it takes me about 10 seconds to spot a bot, and yet your Security Department can't shut any of them down after months, and even a whole year for some of them.

Sorry, but I don't trust your Security Department to do anything about it. In fact, I can see reasons why they might like to have these bots in the tournaments.

 

[RogueRivered]

By the way, I would love to publish the list I have compiled of these bots so you all could check up on them yourselves . . .

But dakota-xx told me not to.

 

[canabero]

i don't see any real proof. bored thread

 

[RogueRivered]

Another closed-minded person. I'll send you the spreadsheet if you'll bother reading it.

 

[Aceplayer55]

Just give me your permission to send you a private message, and I will send you a spreadsheet showing 25 of these players that make it certain that it is a computer playing multiple screen names, not a human.

Did you send them to Detroitjunkie?
I think he said he would run them through Sharkscope.
But seems irrelevent now that ACR said they will look into it.
(Also the ACR rep said that lack of a location does not identify a bot.)

btw - PS says (somewhere) that being online without sleep is something they look for.

 

[RogueRivered]

I decided to get a SharkScope subscription for myself. DetroitJunkie didn't seem that interested in proving that there were bots, just with beating them.

Yeah, I know the lack of location isn't the most important thing. But I've discovered that it is a huge tip-off. These are the first players I check on SharkScope. Now that I know what to look for, I can see right away whether the screen name is a bot. It's not hard. That's why I don't trust ACR to do anything about it anymore. If I can find them so quickly, the fact that ACR doesn't makes me suspicious.

I'll send you the evidence by PM, since dakota-xx told me not to publish it. Is that OK with you?

 

[moots]

Please PM me this evidence too, I'd like to see it. Thanks!

 

[RogueRivered]

Please PM me this evidence too, I'd like to see it. Thanks!

Sure thing. Here comes. It's a link to a screen shot I made using Gyazo, which was recommended as a way to share files. For some reason, I can't make attachments to PMs.

 

[toots babos]

Please PM me this evidence too, I'd like to see it. Thanks!

What's the verdict moots?

 

[Zorba]

Which one's in the OP are the BOTS.

I think it is laughable to even bother with a BOT over a $2.50 top prize, even playing them 24/7 will only amount to a minute amount of money for their efforts, just because they are bots doesn't mean they win every time.

:dontknow:

 

[proud2Bwhack]

Please send me a private message RIGHT NOW with all the names Rogue. I already know you are right, i just want to know when Im facing one.

And ACR rep, YOU ARE LOSING CREDIBILTY. You havent responded to the 24hr play or the identical stats, or folding in the SB to a BB who is sitting out.

Well?

 

[RogueRivered]

Bots already signed up for tomorrow's ACR $100 GTD

For all you doubters, here's most of them, already signed up for tomorrow's $100 GTD at ACR. There are more in the freerolls. There are even some in the $200 GTD, too.

https://gyazo.com/7d121caf0714cb461627a4bf84ac0e27
https://gyazo.com/beaf15f34364a5fa76ebdc67156abc23
https://gyazo.com/f8277ea69272bd82ab38fad657958fde
https://gyazo.com/978a526d5150e6867ef72aca27507537
https://gyazo.com/42a871e304b04e8b32850fa10db0b299
https://gyazo.com/4690b1fbafa0b682ff351e765df19b6c
https://gyazo.com/a85652007d3fd9f211f956bb13ac6a5f

By the way, most of these fake players have won well over $100 each playing freerolls and low buy-in tournaments on ACR, and there are well over 100 of them, so you can do the math. Hint: Way over $10,000 paid to fake players in the last year to six months. The humans are getting cheated!

 

[RogueRivered]

Please send me a private message RIGHT NOW with all the names Rogue. I already know you are right, i just want to know when Im facing one.

And ACR rep, YOU ARE LOSING CREDIBILTY. You havent responded to the 24hr play or the identical stats, or folding in the SB to a BB who is sitting out.

Well?

Just sent you the PM. Thanks supporting me on this. I want to put a stop to them. Sooner or later everyone is going to realize that we are right.

 

[RogueRivered]

Which one's in the OP are the BOTS.

I think it is laughable to even bother with a BOT over a $2.50 top prize, even playing them 24/7 will only amount to a minute amount of money for their efforts, just because they are bots doesn't mean they win every time.

:dontknow:

You'd be surprised at how much winnings each of them has amassed. Considering some of them have played in over 4,000 of these stupid freerolls, it's not hard to see where they get their bankroll to play in the entry fee tournaments. I'd say on average, each of them has $100 to $150 in winnings, and there are well over a hundred of them, so it comes out to at least $10,000 in prizes paid to bots over the last several months to a year.

And the fact that they have played in so many of these tournaments has to tell you something, too, doesn't it? And that they play 24-hours a day. And they have the same stats and results, on average.

Do you want to see my evidence? I can PM you the spreadsheet. And I'll send it anyone else who wants to take a look.

Remember, my evidence that I can send to you does not include the simple act of you going into ACR and watching a few minutes of play at some of the tables at the end of the tournament in the $10 freeroll and even the $100 and $200 GTD tournaments. If you spend just a few minutes watching them, you will see how un-human they are.

Oops, forgot to answer your question. All of them are bots except for Low Battery and 2PacShakur. So 3 out of 5. That's pretty typical at the end of these tournaments. See my other post when the final two were heads-up. Talk about boring, and obviously not human.

 

[Aceplayer55]

I see what you are looking at in Sharkscope.
Did you send that info to the ACR rep?

 

[RogueRivered]

I see what you are looking at in Sharkscope.
Did you send that info to the ACR rep?

Yes, but I'm convinced that they are unable or unwilling to do anything about it. Their security department must be a joke if they haven't noticed all these players playing 24-hours a day!

 

[BigJamo]

You should go higher with this.
I would know where to start though.
Just thought i would put that out there.

 

[RogueRivered]

More Bot Research w/Links: Check it out please

Two tables left in this tournament. The screen shot is one of them. 7 out of the 8 players are bots! Look at their SharkScope screens below. I'll circle the important parts.

The table marked with Bots and Nots
https://gyazo.com/45ad67d474bf5c7dbbcf5729ac4ad7e4

The Bots
https://gyazo.com/5ff356e9a335b5f6766f62370656d658
https://gyazo.com/5c976b19a542bc62c9862eceaa87cf12
https://gyazo.com/a680b1ce8de30bbce251736893bab87a
https://gyazo.com/95521e653c5fa35cab274de6c560a402
https://gyazo.com/f72b59eb0b2236f394552dcbf9bb4c4a
https://gyazo.com/e8b1a07f6be2869412fdebb936bf96a1

The Not
https://gyazo.com/777053a85a70aa1f0882f39f5b348a61

Notice anything? One of the biggest tells is the percentage of field beaten -- always around 66%. Plus, of course, the insane number of these tournaments played, and the number played per day when playing. Also, ITM is almost always around 3% for these players. And, as you can see, new bots are being created all the time.

The Overview Screen
https://gyazo.com/eb3a0ddcc69066102c19123881c318de

There are two versions of the bot software apparently. They are always rated either 59 or 69 approx. The human is lower. The bots all have profits because they only play freerolls and then take their winnings there and play low buy-in tournaments. The profit history is always a green upsloping line. Humans are always all over the place, not smooth upward like the bots. Did you see the insane game count, too? Who in their right mind would play so many of these stupid freerolls? Only computer bots, and they play them 24 hours a day -- obviously with some days off.

Please send me your questions.

 

[RogueRivered]

A couple more screen shots from SharkScope showing Bot's ROI vs. a human player's ROI.

Bot
https://gyazo.com/ad90468ea8186ca18ec95eb8b29d31c9

Human
https://gyazo.com/87bc8ee3d264e3006f87f7c2406b14e2

 

[RogueRivered]

6 out 8 Bots Here

https://gyazo.com/4937262da4f1a9cb7e91df5a948a656f

 

[mbrenneman0]

Can the bots be exploited if you know you are facing one?

 

[RogueRivered]

Yes, I think they can, but I haven't tried it yet. I'm still gathering info on all their tendencies. One thing is for sure, they never bluff, they never call, and they always have a great hand if it gets to showdown (unless they are short-stacked under 10BB).

 

[Poker Orifice]

And ACR rep, YOU ARE LOSING CREDIBILTY. .

Well?

ACR rep., you are not losing credibility with many players (me for one).. who understand you have ALOT more on your plate then this issue with the 'freerolls'. I would also like to say here again, WE REALLY APPRECIATE the fact that you participate here on this forum. Awesome stuff!! Thank-you!

The humans are getting cheated!

I'd think the site is getting cheated. (how much did you pay to play in that game?)

Yes, but I'm convinced that they are unable or unwilling to do anything about it. Their security department must be a joke if they haven't noticed all these players playing 24-hours a day!

.. because I'm sure they aren't busy looking into issues in the $10, $25, $50, $100+ buyins. They should take a look at their priorities... take care of the freerollers first & foremost!

 

[Poker Orifice]

Who in their right mind would play so many of these stupid freerolls?

Please send me your questions.

Ok. My question is the same as the question you've posted above.