zwbb
Legend
Bronze Level
Sometimes you need to think to make a good decision. The thought process takes some time. Difficult situations require you to activate extra time in the form of a timebank. And if such a decision needs to be made at 6 tables? And for 12?
Pokerpoet2
Legend
Loyaler
They don't have to think about hands, the software they use does all the thinking for them, All they need to do is be fast on the mouse clicks and go with the software predictions. Sure it is not 100% guaranteed they are going to win every game, but if the program is right 30% of the time they will have an ROI of 30%.
I prefer to play one table at a time, relax while I play and try and win the game with my own brain power and skills, to me this is just another form of cheating, using programs to play games for you is profitable until the poker site catch you using some illegal software, then they ban you from playing and confiscate your money.
All forms of software should be banned if it helps you to make the decisions, and all you need to do is follow it. This is anther reason i will never play for high stakes on-line, I don't trust some of the players!
If there is money involved, some people will try and find a way of beating the system and take all the money they can, but you won't find too many of them playing micro stakes and freerolls, if they did then just hope the programs that are being used are on the 70% fail rate.
I prefer to play one table at a time, relax while I play and try and win the game with my own brain power and skills, to me this is just another form of cheating, using programs to play games for you is profitable until the poker site catch you using some illegal software, then they ban you from playing and confiscate your money.
All forms of software should be banned if it helps you to make the decisions, and all you need to do is follow it. This is anther reason i will never play for high stakes on-line, I don't trust some of the players!
If there is money involved, some people will try and find a way of beating the system and take all the money they can, but you won't find too many of them playing micro stakes and freerolls, if they did then just hope the programs that are being used are on the 70% fail rate.
antonis32123
Legend
Loyaler
I have seen players doing it online . But I do not know for sure if they are winners overally . Playing 17 tables or more , you should have good skills to act tight and quickly. Know dilutions for many hands and cases . I go not have these solutions . I play very few tables
balo
Legend
Loyaler
They use a tool to organize it, still you would need to play without thinking too much, it's more like being on autopilot, but I imagine when they get deep in the tournaments they can focus more on fewer tables and play better, even if they started with 20 tables .
Poker Orifice
FoolsTilt
Platinum Level
I disagree with many of your statements here.
a) the player I was mentioning plays most of their tables while on GGPoker (3rd party HUD's/tracking software doesn't work on GGPoker). Their other tables played on Stars & 888poker are played without the use of a HUD. (many other MTT players play similarly)
b) 'if' the program was right (first off, the program is neither right or wrong. It merely keeps a record of your playing stats. while on the same tables with that player. ie. it'll show stats. like 'how many hands you've played in total (while on same tables as the player), 'what % of hands you play' 'what % you choose to 3Bet preflop', etc. etc. One would need large sample sizes for many of the stats. to have much meaning. It doesn't tell you what to do at all. One needs to interpret stats. (ie. "they are playing a lot of hands") and then make an adjustment accordingly... or not... if they have chosen to even access said stat.).
... IF the program was right 30% of the time that would actually result in that player being a LOSING player. (they would need to be 'right' 50% of the time just to break even (not including rake).
I'm not sure why it is difficult to imagine players who are capable of playing a large number of tables without cheating. I mean there are loads of them and it's easy enough to watch them online in a variety of ways.
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Gam40
Rising Star
Bronze Level
A lot of online "gurus" used to shout about the only way to grind a profit online is by multi-tabling, but to be honest I think the better strategy now is just being good at your game and knowing when to shift levels, up and down. There is more benefit in crushing a high value table with your full attention rather than just playing snap across multi-tables.
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Gam40
Rising Star
Bronze Level
True! So much software out there now, I think its just something else to contend with; you have to make a choice, 1) fight them with the same weapons, or 2) exploit them when variance plays to your favour. Software can only play as well as the data it has been fed allows it, it doesn't properly allow for real human strategy and deviance.
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77ecos
Visionary
Bronze Level
Few can achieve that, I in particular with a maximum of 6 manage to stay focused on all the action, in more than 6 it is already very complicated for me and consequently more losses than victories, admirable how they manage to do that
finaltable1
Legend
Loyaler
I've been playing 16 tables for quite long period of time, 12 was easy to play, 16 = several hours. Had 2 monitors for that and been using hotkeys.
Currently using just 1 monitor I can easily play 9 tables without hotkeys, just using mouse.
You can install APM (Action Per Minute) counter that some pro video gamers use and see how good you are in clicking, for example if you watch StarCraft tournament finals - professional players have APM above 300, that's 5-6 clicks per second using both keyboard and mouse, they also make decisions, and that's not doubleclicking or spamming APM.
Currently using just 1 monitor I can easily play 9 tables without hotkeys, just using mouse.
You can install APM (Action Per Minute) counter that some pro video gamers use and see how good you are in clicking, for example if you watch StarCraft tournament finals - professional players have APM above 300, that's 5-6 clicks per second using both keyboard and mouse, they also make decisions, and that's not doubleclicking or spamming APM.
