Tammy
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If you've never played live, it can be intimidating your first few times, period, male or female. I think we all psych ourselves out at first, and think that everyone's going to be judging us. But think about it: are you wasting time judging people at all in life, and would you do so at a live table? Probably not, and anyone that does isn't worth a second thought in the first place. Let them judge, who cares what they think?
I'm a female player, and I have played live quite a bit (although it's been a long time since I last played live--life gets in the way, just don't have time
). I had the jitters at first, but I reminded myself that I knew what I was doing, and to play smart, and it would be fine. I sat out for a few hands before the big blind just to watch the table action, and made mental notes. Now, I very rarely have had instances of people treating me differently because I'm a girl. There have been some old codgers who would almost be offended if I raised them, others who think I'm easy to read (because I'm a woman, and I only play the nuts, of course--lol), and loudly claiming what they thought my hand was (they were almost always wrong). I just made mental notes, smiled, and made sure to exploit that to my advantage. On the other hand, I noticed that some guys would soft play against me because they "felt bad" and didn't want to "bully me". Although, to be fair, those times could have been because I'm friendly at the table, and like to chat with players, so it could have had nothing to do with the fact that I'm a woman. Ok, fair dink'um, I'll take advantage of that too!
But for the most part, nearly everyone treats you the same. There are a lot more younger players these days who aren't concerned with stereotypes and such, and will just as willingly take your chips as anyone else with no regrets (as it should be). So the best advice I can give is to just be alert, play your A-game, and make mental notes as you go. But most importantly, never let anyone intimidate you for any reason, especially just because you are a woman ("weaker sex" my ass! lol).
I'm a female player, and I have played live quite a bit (although it's been a long time since I last played live--life gets in the way, just don't have time
). I had the jitters at first, but I reminded myself that I knew what I was doing, and to play smart, and it would be fine. I sat out for a few hands before the big blind just to watch the table action, and made mental notes. Now, I very rarely have had instances of people treating me differently because I'm a girl. There have been some old codgers who would almost be offended if I raised them, others who think I'm easy to read (because I'm a woman, and I only play the nuts, of course--lol), and loudly claiming what they thought my hand was (they were almost always wrong). I just made mental notes, smiled, and made sure to exploit that to my advantage. On the other hand, I noticed that some guys would soft play against me because they "felt bad" and didn't want to "bully me". Although, to be fair, those times could have been because I'm friendly at the table, and like to chat with players, so it could have had nothing to do with the fact that I'm a woman. Ok, fair dink'um, I'll take advantage of that too! But for the most part, nearly everyone treats you the same. There are a lot more younger players these days who aren't concerned with stereotypes and such, and will just as willingly take your chips as anyone else with no regrets (as it should be). So the best advice I can give is to just be alert, play your A-game, and make mental notes as you go. But most importantly, never let anyone intimidate you for any reason, especially just because you are a woman ("weaker sex" my ass! lol).
teepack
Legend
Bronze Level
I agree that there are no differences between male and female players. Yes there are more good male players than female, but that is just a numbers game. As more and more women get involved and play, their numbers of quality players will increase as well.
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steviewayne69
Enthusiast
Silver Level
I would like to see Gaelle Baumann win the wsop 2015. I think the male poker players are less believable than the female poker players, with the exception of Vanessa Selbst who will make a move on you with any two cards on the deck. I don't care about gender at the cash games, I just want to get it in good, and leave with the other persons money after winning with the nuts.
Fishpicker13
Enthusiast
Silver Level
Ladies play poker?
JK. I have found that mixed tables can be alot of fun. The ladies are usually more talkative than the guys, which could mean more lies. I don't believe anything I hear at the table anyway. The only thing I don't much care for is when a couple is at the table and they coordinate their action. If one raises the other will call but if another player raises only one of the couple will continue. Basically it seems as if they are playing as a team. Live poker is so much more fun than on-line, in my opinion. Have fun wherever you choose to play.
JK. I have found that mixed tables can be alot of fun. The ladies are usually more talkative than the guys, which could mean more lies. I don't believe anything I hear at the table anyway. The only thing I don't much care for is when a couple is at the table and they coordinate their action. If one raises the other will call but if another player raises only one of the couple will continue. Basically it seems as if they are playing as a team. Live poker is so much more fun than on-line, in my opinion. Have fun wherever you choose to play.
suby_rafael
Legend
Silver Level
Oh yeah ?? Have you seen this woman play or heard of her ?? If you had i don't think you would make that comment ... :bandit:
Not only her just .. watch some of the plays women make at wsop and it will change your perspective. Do you remember last year 2 women made it to the top 15 of the main event ??
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johnysprinkles
Rising Star
Bronze Level
From my observations at the live poker tables over the last 15 years, women are (in general) given a harder time. You need thick skin to enter this world, but there is good news, if you can handle the language, the suggestive innuendo's, the abrasive tones and often the stench, you can find edges that men cannot.
When you appear timid, unsure of yourself this reflects and does not go unnoticed, a savvy female poker player I know has used this to her advantage for years. She appears timid, unsure but she is quite the opposite. She knows that her bets will get calls, she knows that her mere presents incites bluffs. and she is prepared.
Some women exude confidence and this can work for them as well, they realize that some men hate to lose to a "girl". On the contrary there are a good supply of gentlemen who are happy to have a female at the table especially if he finds her attractive, these types are actually pleased to call off bets when they know they are beat, just to donate and get a smile in return. it is important to recognize how the table is responding to you, use it to your advantage, after all this is live poker where tells and personalities are the HUD and to ignore them, or not understand how to adjust to them is a significant mistake.
There are disadvantages to being a female poker player in the live arena, but the advantages if applied well outweigh the disadvantages. Be observant, be prepared, and you will do fine. Most of us, regardless of gender were scared to death the first time we sat down to play live poker so realize that this will pass.
Good luck
Aaron
When you appear timid, unsure of yourself this reflects and does not go unnoticed, a savvy female poker player I know has used this to her advantage for years. She appears timid, unsure but she is quite the opposite. She knows that her bets will get calls, she knows that her mere presents incites bluffs. and she is prepared.
Some women exude confidence and this can work for them as well, they realize that some men hate to lose to a "girl". On the contrary there are a good supply of gentlemen who are happy to have a female at the table especially if he finds her attractive, these types are actually pleased to call off bets when they know they are beat, just to donate and get a smile in return. it is important to recognize how the table is responding to you, use it to your advantage, after all this is live poker where tells and personalities are the HUD and to ignore them, or not understand how to adjust to them is a significant mistake.
There are disadvantages to being a female poker player in the live arena, but the advantages if applied well outweigh the disadvantages. Be observant, be prepared, and you will do fine. Most of us, regardless of gender were scared to death the first time we sat down to play live poker so realize that this will pass.
Good luck
Aaron
Blu2323
Rising Star
Silver Level
I have played against a lot of really solid female players that took some of my bankroll and made me toss my mouse around the room. The only real reason you don't see a lot of live big money final table finishes on T.V from the female community is because of the ratio between male and female players. Don't let that fool you...the chicks can play!
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sryImPro
Legend
Silver Level
I see that a lot of men had to say something about this subject but as i expected the best advice gave you a woman- Tammy If guys at the table take you for granted only because you are a girl you are already in advatage young lady I have been beaten from a girl many many times and I'm not ashamed to admit it, in fact i think that we are all equal at the table, no metter if you are a man or woman. But, as Tammy already said, take notes, use everything you can, if a guy wants to slow play on you, let him do it ( you can really use that in late stages of MTTs ) Just read carefully JuiceeQ's post and that would be enough, as far as i'm concerned...
If guys at the table take you for granted only because you are a girl you are already in advatage young lady I have been beaten from a girl many many times and I'm not ashamed to admit it, in fact i think that we are all equal at the table, no metter if you are a man or woman. But, as Tammy already said, take notes, use everything you can, if a guy wants to slow play on you, let him do it ( you can really use that in late stages of MTTs ) Just read carefully JuiceeQ's post and that would be enough, as far as i'm concerned...
Tammy
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Aw, thanks! I appreciate that.I see that a lot of men had to say something about this subject but as i expected the best advice gave you a woman- Tammy
madsquirrel
Rock Star
Silver Level
I am a female poker player and playing live games I do not have much of a issue actually is what I see is a lot of female players playing live and they are pretty dang good. I enjoy seeing when male poker players playing live try to intimidate a female at the table and she will raise or call and just dominate that pot because he thought she would push over.. just my observation from playing live.
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dcferny
Rising Star
Bronze Level
Girls to me seems really hard to get a read of. I mean when they know how to play, they usually take advantage of their "image" of tight who never bluff and exploited that. And many times, old shcool players dont get that and think they play like a rock. In Montreal, there are many young guns girls who beats me for a lot of $....
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FoolsTilt
Platinum Level
Keep on believing that... I'm sure you'll continue to rake in huge wins!
Seriously though... how could you possibly entertain that thought? For me that is like one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read.
dj11
Legend
Silver Level
Budget your first 10 outings because they will be mostly for the experience of it all. Fact finding if you will.
The first trip will be absolutely only to figure out the whole procedure. 2nd and 3rd trip will mostly be to re-enforce your understanding of those procedures. If the casino game is a tourney, download and/or study the structure of the tourney.
By the 4th outing, you might notices familiar faces. Figure out how you want to remember them. In most casinos you could take actually pencil and paper notes. Not sure how Manila casinos work, but here in the states, for the most part, your would get seriously frowned at if you were to busy entering it into a smartphone.
Note that at casino's (probably everywhere) there are a lot of HORSES. If you see the same guy every time you go, and he doesn't seem all that good, he might be somebodies HORSE (in this case that means someone else is staking that guy...the player is the HORSE).
By the 5th trip, you should have a decent grasp on procedural things, have figured out the rhythm of live poker, and are beginning to get a feel about whether or not live poker is what you like.
The first trip will be absolutely only to figure out the whole procedure. 2nd and 3rd trip will mostly be to re-enforce your understanding of those procedures. If the casino game is a tourney, download and/or study the structure of the tourney.
By the 4th outing, you might notices familiar faces. Figure out how you want to remember them. In most casinos you could take actually pencil and paper notes. Not sure how Manila casinos work, but here in the states, for the most part, your would get seriously frowned at if you were to busy entering it into a smartphone.
Note that at casino's (probably everywhere) there are a lot of HORSES. If you see the same guy every time you go, and he doesn't seem all that good, he might be somebodies HORSE (in this case that means someone else is staking that guy...the player is the HORSE).
By the 5th trip, you should have a decent grasp on procedural things, have figured out the rhythm of live poker, and are beginning to get a feel about whether or not live poker is what you like.
BadB420
Rock Star
Silver Level
Poker is a game that why majority of professionals are males a female can very well be just as good!
I believe the reason why there are more professional males is because more males play the game than females!
However there are plenty of females who are just as good if not better than most male players!
Poker isn't a game to where someone can gain an edge from being female or male, you can an edge by practice, studying and perfecting your game and playing as good as you can!
If you step to a live table and men start to take you for a joke they will soon see the joke is on them! Vanessa selbst is the 2nd ranked poker player in the world according to the global poker index!
Woman can not only win at poker they can dominate so I treat every player live with respect until I know how they play if that were to tell me otherwise!
All I can say is if you play good poker you have nothing to worry about! Im sure it would be intimidating playing live for your first time whether you are female or male!
Good poker players respect good poker players so if you play well you will shut them up pretty quick! lol
I know plenty of female poker players who can dominate any poker game regardless of live or online so gender is not an issue when it comes to poker!
I believe the reason why there are more professional males is because more males play the game than females!
However there are plenty of females who are just as good if not better than most male players!
Poker isn't a game to where someone can gain an edge from being female or male, you can an edge by practice, studying and perfecting your game and playing as good as you can!
If you step to a live table and men start to take you for a joke they will soon see the joke is on them! Vanessa selbst is the 2nd ranked poker player in the world according to the global poker index!
Woman can not only win at poker they can dominate so I treat every player live with respect until I know how they play if that were to tell me otherwise!
All I can say is if you play good poker you have nothing to worry about! Im sure it would be intimidating playing live for your first time whether you are female or male!
Good poker players respect good poker players so if you play well you will shut them up pretty quick! lol
I know plenty of female poker players who can dominate any poker game regardless of live or online so gender is not an issue when it comes to poker!
wanderingthehall
Rock Star
Silver Level
What I have to say mainly just emphasizes points other people have said, and I am a fellow female player.
The key is to be confident in your game, so that what seem to be weaknesses will actually be strengths you use to your advantage against your table.
1. EVERYONE is nervous the first few times they sit down and the poker table. Everyone is worried about their opponents being able to tell they are new and nervous. Don't be scared of making mistakes, and don't be scared of people seeing you as weak. This is a major advantage, because people will make more basic mistakes against you. Have fun with their misperceptions!!
2. Despite what most guys are saying, you will be treated differently than a man. Depending on the table, it could only be a slight difference, or it could be a huge difference. Part of that is how you carry yourself, and as long as you're comfortable with the dynamics, it doesn't matter what they are. Once again, you can get both men and women to make more mistakes against you because of your gender and the way you carry yourself. I get away with more semi-bluffs against other women.
3. Really consider your attitude at the table. Having a serious poker face isn't always the best way to make money. If you're relaxed and friendly, it will rub off on other people. If people are having fun, they don't care as much if they are winning, because they are paying for the entertainment at that point. A friendly female can definitely improve the mood of a table. To sum it up, you can keep the fish around longer!!
So my first experience playing poker was when I was 22. I had my aunt explain the rules to me 10 min before a little $20 rebuy tourney started in Vegas. I knew I was just playing for fun, because poker takes skills, and I barely knew the rules. It was exhilarating, my heart was pounding the entire time, I was so nervous and excited. I didn't cash, but I outlasted over half the field which made me happy. Definitely worth the money. And I've been hooked ever since!!!
The key is to be confident in your game, so that what seem to be weaknesses will actually be strengths you use to your advantage against your table.
1. EVERYONE is nervous the first few times they sit down and the poker table. Everyone is worried about their opponents being able to tell they are new and nervous. Don't be scared of making mistakes, and don't be scared of people seeing you as weak. This is a major advantage, because people will make more basic mistakes against you. Have fun with their misperceptions!!
2. Despite what most guys are saying, you will be treated differently than a man. Depending on the table, it could only be a slight difference, or it could be a huge difference. Part of that is how you carry yourself, and as long as you're comfortable with the dynamics, it doesn't matter what they are. Once again, you can get both men and women to make more mistakes against you because of your gender and the way you carry yourself. I get away with more semi-bluffs against other women.
3. Really consider your attitude at the table. Having a serious poker face isn't always the best way to make money. If you're relaxed and friendly, it will rub off on other people. If people are having fun, they don't care as much if they are winning, because they are paying for the entertainment at that point. A friendly female can definitely improve the mood of a table. To sum it up, you can keep the fish around longer!!
So my first experience playing poker was when I was 22. I had my aunt explain the rules to me 10 min before a little $20 rebuy tourney started in Vegas. I knew I was just playing for fun, because poker takes skills, and I barely knew the rules. It was exhilarating, my heart was pounding the entire time, I was so nervous and excited. I didn't cash, but I outlasted over half the field which made me happy. Definitely worth the money. And I've been hooked ever since!!!
ILIKEFISH31
Rock Star
Silver Level
In all honesty I adore women and they're a big part of my life lol. That said, it's not just a cliche: Women are simply incapable of making decisions with anything other than their emotions. Poker is probably the worst venue for them on earth.
Let's look at the long list of great, female players over the years. It's really not that long.
Maybe when the next decade starts we can make a push towards men's lib and some of us can get involved in things like becoming a manicurist or a stripper at Scores.
Let's look at the long list of great, female players over the years. It's really not that long.
Maybe when the next decade starts we can make a push towards men's lib and some of us can get involved in things like becoming a manicurist or a stripper at Scores.
rifflemao
Pugs Not Drugs
Silver Level
How long does the list need to be in order to demonstrate capability?