Technology used to cheat in casinos

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How are they actually changed tho? By which I mean which practice, not "how" in a scientific sense - if I wanted to change the card what would I need? A machine?

Post limit will go when you get more posts, no rush to reply I check my suscribed posts most days anyhow :)
 
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One thing I did want to mention, Just take a look at who is actually making these cards for KEM (U.S. Playing card co.)


Cellulose Acetate: The Dealer's Choice | Plastics Engineering ...

a joint-venture company formed by Kem Plastic and Gentex Corp., of Carbondale, Pa. To make casino-grade playing cards


Gentex makes organic dielectric thin films & optic light management products. You really have to ask the question why a defense contractor that makes thin film light management products would be teaming up to make the casino playing cards.

http://www.lastek.com.au/content/view/664/807/

Without getting into too much detail about each one, I'll just post a link of patents by Gentex & photochromic materials.





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  1. <LI style="POSITION: relative" class="g knavi">Photochromic materials

    US Pat. App 10903770 - Filed Jul 30, 2004
    Example 22 [0213] An example photochromic coating composition (indicated as ... After preparation, each coatings was applied to a plasma treated Gentex PDQ ...
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    ► <LI class="g knavi">Photochromic optical article

    US Pat. 7410691 - Filed Mar 4, 2004 - Issued Aug 12, 2008 - PPG Industries Ohio, Inc.
    An example of such a lens is the Gentex polycarbonate lens (available from ... coating or photochromic polymeric coating to the surface of the substrate, ...
    patents.google.com
    <LI class="g knavi">Photochromic article

    US Pat. 7465414 - Filed Nov 14, 2002 - Issued Dec 16, 2008 - Transitions Optical, Inc.
    The mixture of photochromic dyes was designed to provide a gray 5 color when ... on top of the convex surface of a 2-base polycarbonate lens [Gentex Optics, ...
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    <LI class="g knavi">Photochromic optical article

    US Pat. App 10793498 - Filed Mar 4, 2004
    [0045] The polymeric organic substrate used to prepare the photochromic articles of the ... An example of such an article is the Gentex polycarbonate lens ...
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    <LI class="g knavi">Photochromic optical article

    US Pat. 7811480 - Filed Mar 4, 2004 - Issued Oct 12, 2010 - Transitions Optical, Inc.
    An example of such a lens is the Gentex polycarbonate lens (available from ... coating or photochromic polymeric coating to the surface of the substrate, ...
    patents.google.com
    <LI class="g knavi">PHOTOCHROMIC MATERIALS COMPRISING HALOALKYL GROUPS

    US Pat. App 11695126 - Filed Apr 2, 2007 - TRANSITIONS OPTICAL, INC.
    For example, according to one non-limiting embodiment, the photochromic article ... lens substrate is sold under the trademark GENTEX (by Gentex Optics). ...
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    <LI class="g knavi">Photochromic article

    US Pat. 7666331 - Filed Jul 19, 2006 - Issued Feb 23, 2010 - Transitions Optical, Inc.
    Polymeric substrates that may be used in preparing the photochromic articles of ... An example of such a lens is a Gentex polycarbonate lens (available from ...
    patents.google.com
    <LI class="g knavi">Photochromic optical article

    US Pat. App 10793518 - Filed Mar 4, 2004
    [0104] The polymeric organic substrate used to prepare the photochromic articles of the ... An example of such an article is the Gentex polycarbonate lens ...
    patents.google.com
    <LI class="g knavi">PHOTOCHROMIC MATERIALS DEMONSTRATING IMPROVED FADE RATES

    US Pat. App 11860682 - Filed Sep 25, 2007 - TRANSITIONS OPTICAL, INC.
    ... lens substrate is sold under the trademark GENTEX (by Gentex Optics). ... [ 0132] The photochromic material according to various non-limiting embodiments ...
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  2. Photochromic materials and photochromic compositions and articles ...

    US Pat. 7907346 - Filed Mar 16, 2007 - Issued Mar 15, 2011 - Transitions Optical, Inc.
    Various non-limiting embodiments disclosed herein provide photochromic ... lens substrate is sold under the trademark GENTEX (by Gentex Optics). ...
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By the way I guess since I'm a new member here I only get so many post a day, so I will not be able to comment much.

Also I expect many more will come to the thread trying to discredit this as they always do on 2+2. I've had around 25 accounts banned there, mostly for doing nothing other than questioning the integrity of online poker. Since I turned down $65000 from the online sites, they would not even let me so much as make a comment there about it. The people behind this do not want it brought to light, however as with any cheat or corruption, the truth will always be brought to light.

Video please.

Lets see your face.

Could you say "Hi Stu" so we know its a recording of you and not just stock footage from the net.

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A space vehicle propelled by the pressure of inflationary vacuum state is provided comprising a hollow superconductive shield, an inner shield, a power source, a support structure, upper and lower means for generating an electromagnetic field, and a flux modulation controller. A cooled hollow superconductive shield is energized by an electromagnetic field resulting in the quantized vortices of lattice ions projecting a gravitomagnetic field that forms a spacetime curvature anomaly outside the space vehicle. The spacetime curvature imbalance, the spacetime curvature being the same as gravity, provides for the space vehicle's propulsion. The space vehicle, surrounded by the spacetime anomaly, may move at a speed approaching the light-speed characteristic for the modified locale.


You don't ACTUALLY BELIEVE that everything that has a patent exists do you? The one I posted above is an actual patent granted for an anti-gravity spaceship like the ones from the move Stargate. You don't believe it exists right? Right?

I do! In area 53.........;)
 
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Again, just wanted to show how different compounds can be synthsized for color change with a catalyst. The cards are much more precise in how they are manufactured.



 
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LOL - I think I'm getting you're drift, you conspiracy theorist you! :)

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A conspiracy theory is only a theory, some of which could be true or not. Once proven true, it is no longer theory.
 
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How are they actually changed tho? By which I mean which practice, not "how" in a scientific sense - if I wanted to change the card what would I need? A machine?

Post limit will go when you get more posts, no rush to reply I check my suscribed posts most days anyhow :)

Any answer?
 
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A conspiracy theory is only a theory, some of which could be true or not. Once proven true, it is no longer theory.

Oh crap. He's also a young earth creationist. I'm not fond of using a person's personal beliefs against them, but the casinos have been circulating this image of him to discredit him.
 

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Pascal, It's not being done from within the pokerroom, no dealers floorman etc. have a clue that it's going on. It's much bigger than that. It can be done remotely as long as the cards are in play. The equipment that was being used consist of 70 to 80 different machines used to control electromagnetic radiation & spectrometers etc. There are several individuals that have the names & serial numbers of the machines that were gathered during a construction project.
 
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Pascal, It's not being done from within the pokerroom, no dealers floorman etc. have a clue that it's going on. It's much bigger than that. It can be done remotely as long as the cards are in play. The equipment that was being used consist of 70 to 80 different machines used to control electromagnetic radiation & spectrometers etc. There are several individuals that have the names & serial numbers of the machines that were gathered during a construction project.
Do you take medication?
 
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There are far easier ways for cheats to "get the money." This is just ludicrous and so far beyond overkill it's absurd.

Poker is played with a single deck anyway. It's not like you could change any card into an Ace of Spades and reveal it, given that any one of your opponents could have been holding it, and bam, the elaborate scheme is blown.
 
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There are far easier ways for cheats to "get the money." This is just ludicrous and so far beyond overkill it's absurd.

Poker is played with a single deck anyway. It's not like you could change any card into an Ace of Spades and reveal it, given that any one of your opponents could have been holding it, and bam, the elaborate scheme is blown.
What's this? Logic? ITT? There is no place for actual thinking here sir!

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Basically you are asking for a little more information regarding the lazer molecular realigning device.


I realize the rapture has been rescheduled for October, but, Stu, for the welfare of mankind, you cannot make this information available to to Pooffywan, :eek: none of us would be safe.
 
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Let me say this again, Players are not doing this. I'm posted this in the forum because I'm trying to help the players here that no something just isn't right. This isn't speculation or a theory. Cainos & casino management companies are using this technology to cheat. No one believed the guy that caught Madoff either as the SEC ignored it for years. This is about big politics & big money & corruption
 
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Okay, this desperation bit is just sad now. Go back to the crazytalk that was far more entertaining.
 
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Is this technology in any way related to the assassination of JFK?
 
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GabeC, I guess you overlooked my statement of there being more realistic, and easier ways of cheats "getting the money."

Why would a casino use such a thing when they're under constant supervision of gaming control, and they're already making millions (if not, billions) from slot machines and BJ tables?

If it's just a small subset of casino employees doing this, then like I said, there are far easier ways for them to cheat. How about just using a biased card shuffler -- one that doesn't shuffle thoroughly. These are known to have existed. No need to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on a machine that secretly erases and reprints cards -- just jam a couple of the pins inside a card shuffler. Same result, less evidence, less expensive. Your claim is outrageous, considering the simple alternatives that would interest a cheat.
 
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This has become a great thread. I'm here on CardsChat to learn about and chat about my favourite game. Now I get the bonus of being entertained too - better than watching TV. :)

However, being English, I'm a little worried that you're about to implicate the Royal Family in this one. They already have enough claims from you lot that they're aliens, involved in smuggling, etc. Don't even try to pin this one on them. We hold our Queen in high regard and know that she would not get involved in such a thing! She doesn't even have a pokerstars account, for Pete's sake!

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NFS, You should have read the whole thread , you can ignor the 2+2 ers that come here to make jokes & get humbled. I've been proving people wrong for years, It never ceases to amaze me at the amount of ignorance in this world.

If you had read the other post I made, you would have seen the only reason i stumbled upon this was because I did mathmatical studies to prove the cards were not random. I 100% proved the unrandomness in the beginning. Finding out how it was being done was the fun part. I originally thought it was the shuffle machines as they can sort cards in order, however the dealer cuts the cards so the cut would have to have been biased with magnetizing. This wouldn't explain certain things that came up in my study.

I actually found out how it was being done when a gentlemen came up to me after he heard about my study, yes a lot of people knew because of who i am. He had been involved in the gambling business for all his life, many would know him here, but he chooses to remain anonymous because of the people involved in this. He has seen the equipment that is being used to do this.

I later have saw the cards change as I started watching the backs & holding them to the light, You would have to find a very discreet mark as the equipment detects damaged or marked cards. I have seen several change by tracking them, If you want proof, you can do this yourself.

And your question about why casinos would do this, because elite players eventually felt the type of players that play recreational in casinos these days, for every table to see running, if they weren't eliminating undesirables, theyd have 20% of the tables running, samething in online poker. They want to keep the games going so they rake it all, its all about parody & shuffling the money to players who will lose it in the pits, It's that simple. It isn't a few players from 1 casino doing this, they are all doing it & its being done remotely. The gaming commission is involved, And if you don't think corruption can get involved in the control board then I can't have a conversation with you because your head is stuck so far up your azz. Just look at madoff, jack abramoff, michael milken, mitchell wade. abramoff & milken are involved in casino ownership bribery & funding.
You have to look no further than the history of vegas to see how the mob has controlled gambling every since inception.
 
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METHOD, APPARATUS AND ARTICLE FOR COMPUTATIONAL SEQUENCE GENERATION AND PLAYING CARD DISTRIBUTION
BACKGROUND OF THE INVENTION [0001] 1. Technical Field


0006] Manual shuffling tends to slow play down, so the gaming industry now employs numerous mechanical shufflers to speed up play and to more thoroughly shuffle the cards. The cards are typically shuffled several cards before the end of the deck(s), in an effort to hinder card counting, which may be particularly effective when only a few hands of cards remain (i.e., end game strategy). The ratio of the number of cards dealt to the total number of cards remaining in the deck(s) is commonly known as the penetration. The gaming industry is now introducing continuous shufflers in a further attempt to frustrate attempts at card counting. As the name implies, continuous shufflers mechanically shuffle the cards remaining to be dealt while one or more hands are being played.
[0007] While mechanical shufflers increase the speed of play and produce a more through shuffle over manual methods, there is still a need for improve in speed and/or thoroughness of the shuffle. In particular, current mechanical shuffling apparatus and methods are subject to incomplete shuffles due to the inherently mechanical nature of such devices. Additionally, mechanical shufflers are limited in the total number of decks they can manipulate.
SUMMARY OF THE INVENTION
[0008] Under one aspect, a method, apparatus and article computationally generates a playing card sequence, and distributes playing cards according the computationally generated playing card sequence.
 
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Patent, Playing card supply method & Apparatus

In yet an alternative arrangement, the carrier members may be treated with a light sensitive material which for example may be applied as a coating to or on the carrier members and the indicia may be displayed by subjecting the light sensitive material to light of a particular pattern or having certain characteristics which enable the indicia to be displayed on the light sensitive material. Thus the light sensitive material may comprise a photochromatic ink or coating such that the indicia can be displayed when exposed to a light pattern corresponding to an indicia. Alternatively, the light sensitive material may respond to a particular light polarization to display particular card indicia. In yet an alternative arrangement, the light sensitive material may be sensitive to light of a particular frequency or frequencies.
[0017] The image formed by the exposure of the light sensitive material to light may only appear for a certain period of time such that when re-exposed to a different light pattern, a new image showing a new indicia is apparent on the carrier members. Alternatively, the image may be removed by exposing the light sensitive material to light of an alternative frequency, polarization or the like
You are being cheated by this in the casinos, If you want to know why the dealer gets a face card everytime while you get 5 or 6s, or why when you get 11 & double down when they have a 6 showing & they hand you a deuce while the dealer draws out 5 cards for 21, this is it. I'm putting my reputation on the line as a world class poker player because I caught them cheating me.
 
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I'm putting my reputation on the line as a world class poker player because I caught them cheating me.
Ok now time for an easy one. Prove this. Take a pic of yourself in front of your PC looking at CC and post it.

Also please do be posting your analysis from your "mathematical studies" where you proved "they" were rigging the deck against you. Remember that sample size is important.

Also while we're at it since you think online poker is rigged too, why doesn't my, or anyone else's, data back up your claims? Ever considered the fact that you just suck at poker?
 
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