***PLO Cash Game Thread***

[tarinoidenkertoja]

Here I will wake up the thread.
And I was NOT DRUNK.
Make as much fun as you like, but I wont stop liking it.

Full Tilt Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.02 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com



Button ($2.62)
SB ($4.58)
BB ($1.13)
UTG ($2)
pSYCHICFISH (MP) ($4.79)
CO ($2.11)

Preflop: pSYCHICFISH is MP with 7

, 8

, 2

, 9

1 fold, pSYCHICFISH calls $0.02, 1 fold, Button calls $0.02, SB bets $0.10, BB calls $0.08, pSYCHICFISH calls $0.08, Button calls $0.08

Flop: ($0.40) A

, 8

, 8

(4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, pSYCHICFISH bets $0.20, 1 fold, SB calls $0.20, 1 fold

Turn: ($0.80) 3

(2 players)
SB checks, pSYCHICFISH checks

River: ($0.80) 4

(2 players)
SB checks, pSYCHICFISH checks

Total pot: $0.80 | Rake: $0.05

Results:
SB had A

, Q

, A

, K

(full house, Aces over eights).
pSYCHICFISH had 7

, 8

, 2

, 9

(three of a kind, eights).
Outcome: SB won $0.75

Lol typical hand where you are so happy that you didn t have a deuce on the board ,that would have been more painful considering the idea that your opponent could have A 45 and so he could be willing to calla raise pot

 

[BenLZ]

PLO8:

Nut low draw and nut flush draw check-raised - you getting this in? How does stack-pot ratio impact answer?

 

[cAPSLOCK]

PLO8:

Nut low draw and nut flush draw check-raised - you getting this in? How does stack-pot ratio impact answer?

Absolutely. And I don't really care if he is short or has me covered. I am going to see 3/4 or all the pot enough times to make up for the times I see 1/4-1/2

Then again, see above hand for insight on who this advice is from :icon_joke

 

[BenLZ]

Absolutely. And I don't really care if he is short or has me covered. I am going to see 3/4 or all the pot enough times to make up for the times I see 1/4-1/2

Then again, see above hand for insight on who this advice is from :icon_joke

Or felted, which has happened to me the last 2 times I did this - but good, glad I got confirmation.

cAPSLOCK, you played that last hand REALLY well. The one where he had aces? You know something is up with the check/call.

I actually had a hand very much like your 7655 hand where I had nut straight w/ redraws. I had like T988 in the BB maniac raises, SB flats and so do I. Flop comes 576 2 hearts, 1 spade. Sb leads out. I raise pot. Maniac calls. Sb calls. Turn comes 3 spades. It's checked to me and I bet pot. By this time I'm essentially all in. Maniac folds. SB thinks for a while and finally calls. River comes 7 of diamonds. I have like .74 left (10PLO) and he just bets into me and turns over like 7543 with 2 spades.

 

[cAPSLOCK]

Oh wait. I didn't see the word 'draw' after the words 'nut low'. I thought you already had a lock on the low.

So hrm... that changes it a lot. I might even be folding to a checkraise. Not only are we drawing on both sides we are not multi-drawing to the high hand.

I am tracking a session right now so i can't do some math, but I have a feeling this is a bad spot most of the time.

 

[Tygran]

Here I will wake up the thread.
And I was NOT DRUNK.
Make as much fun as you like, but I wont stop liking it.

Full Tilt Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.02 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com



Button ($2.62)
SB ($4.58)
BB ($1.13)
UTG ($2)
pSYCHICFISH (MP) ($4.79)
CO ($2.11)

Preflop: pSYCHICFISH is MP with 7

, 8

, 2

, 9

1 fold, pSYCHICFISH calls $0.02, 1 fold, Button calls $0.02, SB bets $0.10, BB calls $0.08, pSYCHICFISH calls $0.08, Button calls $0.08

Flop: ($0.40) A

, 8

, 8

(4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, pSYCHICFISH bets $0.20, 1 fold, SB calls $0.20, 1 fold

Turn: ($0.80) 3

(2 players)
SB checks, pSYCHICFISH checks

River: ($0.80) 4

(2 players)
SB checks, pSYCHICFISH checks

Total pot: $0.80 | Rake: $0.05

Results:
SB had A

, Q

, A

, K

(full house, Aces over eights).
pSYCHICFISH had 7

, 8

, 2

, 9

(three of a kind, eights).
Outcome: SB won $0.75

^^ what do you think you did wrong?

I have no problems with any of this... actually think you played it well.


I have massive problems with the SB's approach however lol

 

[cAPSLOCK]

^^ what do you think you did wrong?

I have no problems with any of this... actually think you played it well.


I have massive problems with the SB's approach however lol

I feel like limp/calling these particular cards pre flop is overly loose. Even with my spectaculous post flop play I still lose 15bb.

 

[Tygran]

I feel like limp/calling these particular cards pre flop is overly loose. Even with my spectaculous post flop play I still lose 15bb.

ah yeah ok... yeah I will agree with you on that, I thought you open raised it...

If you are going to play something like that open raise it pre, open limping is just kinda ewww.

by the same token, that's a great hand to overlimp in LP if you have a limp chain going on in front of you.


I have no reservations whatsoever open raising that from the BTN or CO... from MP it's kinda marginal but ok dependent on the table.


I still like your postflop play lots though!

 

[Tygran]

As an aside...


are there a new breed of lagfish running around lately who think 3betting random crap from the blinds is teh thing to do?

or is just me

 

[Tygran]

I'll have to post the hand later... i just flopped a 20 out straight wrap with a flush draw on one table and got it in vs bare AAxx

 

[cAPSLOCK]

As an aside...


are there a new breed of lagfish running around lately who think 3betting random crap from the blinds is teh thing to do?

or is just me

Well I don't know if its normal at stakes higher than my penny stakes, but there is almost always some guy who is 100/100 from the blinds, and likely 70/50ish from all other positions. These guys are free money usually.. but recently have been busting me with the dumbest draws.

 

[Marginal]

As an aside...


are there a new breed of lagfish running around lately who think 3betting random crap from the blinds is teh thing to do?

or is just me

Yeah, but you know its teh funs to 4 bet or just call from position and watch them pot every single flop.

 

[cjatud2012]

*sigh* this means I'm getting better at least, that I can fold this pretty easily.

full tilt poker $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha High
Hand Converter provided by Line Checker

SB: $2.43
BB: $11.34
UTG: $6.80
HJ: $4.35
CO: $17.97
Hero: $14.89

Preflop: ($0.15)
Hero has T:heart: 8:spade: 6:club: J:club:
UTG calls $0.10, HJ calls $0.10, CO folds, Hero calls $0.10, SB calls $0.05, BB checks

Flop: ($0.50) T:spade: 7:spade: 9:spade:
SB bets $0.10, BB calls $0.10, UTG raises to $0.20, HJ folds, Hero mucks the nut straight since he's crushed obv, SB calls $0.10, BB calls $0.10

Turn: ($1.10) 8:club:
SB bets $0.10, BB calls $0.10, UTG calls $0.10

River: ($1.40) 7:club:
SB bets $0.10, BB folds, UTG calls $0.10

Showdown: ($1.60)
SB shows A:spade: J:heart: 6:heart: 3:spade: (a flush, Ace high)
UTG shows 6:spade: 8:diamond: 4:spade: 9:diamond: (a flush, Ten high)
SB wins $1.50

 

[Marginal]

If anybody wants to chat about omaha and is on AIm just PM me to exchange details.

 

[Tygran]

Yeah, but you know its teh funs to 4 bet or just call from position and watch them pot every single flop.

oh for sure

 

[Marginal]

Sitting at 4 ante tables this morning ( 3 50 and 1 100) and Im trying something different. Instead of playing 200bb deep, Im only in for 100bb which means its closer to like 65bb effective stacks. Just trying to feel out how often I can get stacks in etc. Also one of the players at my table is ICallSoWhat who use to be this big HSPLO player so that should be fun.

 

[Marginal]

Wow, 50plo is nitty. I cant play there..

 

[Marginal]

Someone tell me how money does not get in on this turn. He has effective gin because I have been anything but nitty over the last 3 or 4 orbits. Bad river but how does he not shove the turn. I have raised like 50% of hands preflop since he came to the table.


Full Tilt Pot-Limit Omaha, $1.00 BB (5 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop | saw showdown

Button ($100)
SB ($133.90)
BB ($200)
Hero (UTG) ($236.75)
MP ($145.60)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9

, A

, Q

, A

Hero bets $4.50, MP calls $4.50, Button calls $4.50, 2 folds

Flop: ($16) 8

, 9

, A

(3 players)
Hero bets $14, MP calls $14, 1 fold

Turn: ($44) K

(2 players)
Hero bets $35, MP calls $35

River: ($114) 10

(2 players)
Hero checks, MP checks

Total pot: $114 | Rake: $3

Results:
Hero had 9

, A

, Q

, A

(three of a kind, Aces).
MP had K

, 10

, J

, K

(three of a kind, Kings).
Outcome: Hero won $111

 

[FereZ]

Tried to grind omaha on pl 10 when i had my biggest br so far (440Dollars).
First i ran well for a few days, after those days everything changed.
Started to lose every coinflip, didn't get lucky at all and cards were very dry.
Tried also some pl25 6-max. Variance i think?
Playing pl 25 is much more different than 10.

And to marginals post.
Thats very strange, the opponent had second nuts with oesdf?
I wonder also why didn't he shove.
But good that he didnt hit on river and u got the pot

 

[Marginal]

I really dont mind if he hits the river. It has to happen but Im just wanted him to shove turn . I mean, it makes sense to do it because he crushes my range but Im probably folding almost everything so its actually a better call on his part. Ie he gets more value from calling. You just dont come around people who dont shove sets

Its my opinion that 25 plo is easier than 10plo and 50 plo is easier than 25plo and then it get harder.

 

[Tygran]

I really dont mind if he hits the river. It has to happen but Im just wanted him to shove turn . I mean, it makes sense to do it because he crushes my range but Im probably folding almost everything so its actually a better call on his part. Ie he gets more value from calling. You just dont come around people who dont shove sets

Its my opinion that 25 plo is easier than 10plo and 50 plo is easier than 25plo and then it get harder.

lol @ the nit...


and yeah... I agree with you completely on the 10/25/50 analysis.

 

[Marginal]

Btw, I know this is a cash game thread but there is the 55$ mini ftops PLO game today. it has 6k starting stacks and 12 minute blind levels up to a certain level then it is 15 then 20 minute. Seems like anyone who is accustom to 100bb PLO game (ie cash) can do well with this structure. It starts at 1 est and just posting this incase anyone is interested but did not know before

 

[onemorechance]

Also one of the players at my table is ICallSoWhat who use to be this big HSPLO player so that should be fun.

Lol wow he's down at 50 and 100 now? Is he a reg there?

 

[Marginal]

Lol wow he's down at 50 and 100 now? Is he a reg there?

No idea, Im not even sure it is the real guy but that was the first time I sat with him but the name is super familiar.

 

[Marginal]

Holy shit, I now realise that it would take 6 to 7 hours to reach the bubble. Probably not a good idea to play this