B
BenLZ
Rock Star
Silver Level
M
Marginal
Junior Member
Silver Level
Well the way it works is that you need to be able to be able to shove all the chips in on the flop without having to reraise etc. So if we can get like 35bb*** in preflop (ie big 4 bet/5 bet we the case me be) we do it. So you need to access the situation and sometimes the best way would be to just call an open raise from someone else in the hope that someone in later position 3 bets so you can 4 bet etc. Now I actually 3 bet AAxx a lot usually in position and also because I 3 bet a ton of hands and thus my range is fairly balanced. If you are going to 3 bet AA you need to be 3 betting a lot of other hands so it is not obvious.
*** Assuming that we are 100bb deep but it gets trickier when we are like 150 or 200bb deep
*** Assuming that we are 100bb deep but it gets trickier when we are like 150 or 200bb deep
tarinoidenkertoja
Enthusiast
Silver Level
oh so i guess i m too frightened by the fact i ve possible flush/straight draws and i would have only to rely on a top set in the best situation
but mostly i ve read many articles and if i m right there is a part in supersystem 2 where it s advised to not to overplay such hands. However as i said i m a beginner
but mostly i ve read many articles and if i m right there is a part in supersystem 2 where it s advised to not to overplay such hands. However as i said i m a beginner
M
Marginal
Junior Member
Silver Level
I play so bad. This was horribly played.
Full Tilt Pot-Limit Omaha, $4.00 BB (5 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
saw flop | saw showdown
Hero (MP) ($444.65)
Button ($183)
SB ($156)
BB ($160)
UTG ($566.50)
Preflop: Hero is MP with 9
, A
, J
, 7
1 fold, Hero bets $8, 1 fold, SB calls $6, 1 fold
Flop: ($20) 5
, K
, A
(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $12, SB raises to $56, Hero raises to $152, SB calls $92 (All-In)
Turn: ($316) A
(2 players, 1 all-in)
River: ($316) 7
(2 players, 1 all-in)
Total pot: $316 | Rake: $3
Results:
SB had 8
, K
, K
, 2
(full house, Kings over Aces).
Hero had 9
, A
, J
, 7
(full house, Aces over sevens).
Outcome: Hero won $313
You are way to quick. I was about to post it. Btw, I have no justification for my play. It was just a bad move.
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saw flop | saw showdown
Hero (MP) ($444.65)
Button ($183)
SB ($156)
BB ($160)
UTG ($566.50)
Preflop: Hero is MP with 9
1 fold, Hero bets $8, 1 fold, SB calls $6, 1 fold
Flop: ($20) 5
SB checks, Hero bets $12, SB raises to $56, Hero raises to $152, SB calls $92 (All-In)
Turn: ($316) A
River: ($316) 7
Total pot: $316 | Rake: $3
Results:
SB had 8
Hero had 9
Outcome: Hero won $313
I just watched your super sick handBoat on the river against the set of kings.
You are way to quick. I was about to post it. Btw, I have no justification for my play. It was just a bad move.
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M
Marginal
Junior Member
Silver Level
Obviously. We dont make flushes, thats not exciting enough.
M
Marginal
Junior Member
Silver Level
Does anybody else agree that I cannot bet this at any point? Im obviously looking to c/c the river but I cant lead here, I dont think he calls with KKxx and always have better Axxx hand. Same reasoning for the turn and I dont want to lead the flop.
Full Tilt Pot-Limit Omaha, $4.00 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
saw flop
Hero (SB) ($585.65)
BB ($80)
UTG ($160)
MP ($161.70)
CO ($534.60)
Button ($448.50)
Preflop: Hero is SB with J
, J
, 10
, A
1 fold, MP bets $12, 2 folds, Hero calls $10, 1 fold
Flop: ($28) 6
, 9
, 4
(2 players)
Hero checks, MP checks
Turn: ($28) A
(2 players)
Hero checks, MP checks
River: ($28) A
(2 players)
Hero checks, MP checks
Total pot: $28 | Rake: $1.40
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saw flop
Hero (SB) ($585.65)
BB ($80)
UTG ($160)
MP ($161.70)
CO ($534.60)
Button ($448.50)
Preflop: Hero is SB with J
1 fold, MP bets $12, 2 folds, Hero calls $10, 1 fold
Flop: ($28) 6
Hero checks, MP checks
Turn: ($28) A
Hero checks, MP checks
River: ($28) A
Hero checks, MP checks
Total pot: $28 | Rake: $1.40
M
Marginal
Junior Member
Silver Level
I do lose my mind from time to time. No seriously, I cant justify it. We had been tangling a little bit and I did stack him earlier with a 13 card wrap and FD against a set but he had c/r me quite a few times so I took a chance here but obviously it was wrong. Btw the reason for doing it with the 97s is that if he has a FD and is just semi bluffing., I have blockers and if he has a had like he had, I have outs. It looks worse than it is tbh but w/e. And yes I do think he is doing it with a bare fd sometimes.
M
Marginal
Junior Member
Silver Level
And this is why make retard moves also work for image
Full Tilt Pot-Limit Omaha, $4.00 BB (5 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
saw flop | saw showdown
Hero (UTG) ($588.25)
MP ($288.70)
Button ($163.50)
BB ($380.60)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with 10
, 10
, A
, J
Hero bets $12, MP calls $12, 1 fold, BB calls $8
Flop: ($36) 7
, 4
, 10
(3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $27, MP calls $27, 1 fold
Turn: ($90) 7
(2 players)
Hero bets $67, MP calls $67
River: ($224) 6
(2 players)
Hero bets $224, MP calls $182.70 (All-In)
Total pot: $589.40 | Rake: $2
Results:
Hero had 10
, 10
, A
, J
(full house, tens over sevens).
MP had 2
, 3
, 5
, 6
(straight, seven high).
Outcome: Hero won $587.40
Full Tilt Pot-Limit Omaha, $4.00 BB (5 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
saw flop | saw showdown
Hero (UTG) ($588.25)
MP ($288.70)
Button ($163.50)
BB ($380.60)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with 10
Hero bets $12, MP calls $12, 1 fold, BB calls $8
Flop: ($36) 7
BB checks, Hero bets $27, MP calls $27, 1 fold
Turn: ($90) 7
Hero bets $67, MP calls $67
River: ($224) 6
Hero bets $224, MP calls $182.70 (All-In)
Total pot: $589.40 | Rake: $2
Results:
Hero had 10
MP had 2
Outcome: Hero won $587.40
cjatud2012
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Silver Level
Do I fold this to the 3-bet pre?
full tilt poker $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha High
Hand Converter provided by Line Checker
SB: $48.08
BB: $17.40
UTG: $20.40
Hero: $37.80
CO: $29.31
BTN: $10.57
Preflop: ($0.35)
Hero has Q:heart: K:diamond: Q:spade: T:club:
UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.85, CO raises to $2.25, BTN folds, SB folds, BB folds, Hero ??
full tilt poker $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha High
Hand Converter provided by Line Checker
SB: $48.08
BB: $17.40
UTG: $20.40
Hero: $37.80
CO: $29.31
BTN: $10.57
Preflop: ($0.35)
Hero has Q:heart: K:diamond: Q:spade: T:club:
UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.85, CO raises to $2.25, BTN folds, SB folds, BB folds, Hero ??
cjatud2012
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Silver Level
Also, this isn't super nitty, is it?
Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha High
Hand Converter provided by Line Checker
SB: $87.63
BB: $44.64
UTG: $13.83
Hero: $59.55
CO: $22.21
BTN: $25.38
Preflop: ($0.35)
Hero has K:club: K:spade: 5:club: 5:spade:
UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.85, CO folds, BTN folds, SB folds, BB raises to $2.65, Hero calls $1.80
Flop: ($5.40) K:diamond: A:spade: J:diamond:
BB checks, Hero checks
Turn: ($5.40) T:heart:
BB bets $5.40, Hero folds
Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha High
Hand Converter provided by Line Checker
SB: $87.63
BB: $44.64
UTG: $13.83
Hero: $59.55
CO: $22.21
BTN: $25.38
Preflop: ($0.35)
Hero has K:club: K:spade: 5:club: 5:spade:
UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.85, CO folds, BTN folds, SB folds, BB raises to $2.65, Hero calls $1.80
Flop: ($5.40) K:diamond: A:spade: J:diamond:
BB checks, Hero checks
Turn: ($5.40) T:heart:
BB bets $5.40, Hero folds
Makwa
Undesirable Predator
Silver Level
I would here, u r OOP, only broadway potential no fls, and if CO is 3 betting with AA (depends on his play but a good guess normally), your outs for the str8 are diminished and naked Qs are dominated. Fold I would.
Tygran
Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
I wouldn't even open that hand from first two seats anyway... queens just aren't that good.
I'd need the T to be a J and it to be double suited to want to open it from EP.
And even then I'm not super thrilled about it..that's just a hard hand to play oop in almost all situations.
It does depend a little on the table though.
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Tygran
Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
Does anybody else agree that I cannot bet this at any point? Im obviously looking to c/c the river but I cant lead here, I dont think he calls with KKxx and always have better Axxx hand. Same reasoning for the turn and I dont want to lead the flop.
Full Tilt Pot-Limit Omaha, $4.00 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
saw flop
Hero (SB) ($585.65)
BB ($80)
UTG ($160)
MP ($161.70)
CO ($534.60)
Button ($448.50)
Preflop: Hero is SB with J, J, 10, A
1 fold, MP bets $12, 2 folds, Hero calls $10, 1 fold
Flop: ($28) 6, 9, 4(2 players)
Hero checks, MP checks
Turn: ($28) A(2 players)
Hero checks, MP checks
River: ($28) A(2 players)
Hero checks, MP checks
Total pot: $28 | Rake: $1.40
Agreed 100%...
you won't get called by worse, but you might get him to bet/bluff worse.
cjatud2012
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Silver Level
PLO is becoming expensive to learn, lol. Probably going back to STT's soon.
Okay, I know this one should be mucked pre too, but that's not my question this time. I'm wondering do I flat the turn or raise it?
Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha High
Hand Converter provided by Line Checker
SB: $13.63
BB: $4.67
UTG: $7.99
HJ: $21.32
CO: $10.00
Hero: $21.88
Preflop: ($0.15)
Hero has 7:heart: 6:diamond: 5:spade: 5:club:
UTG calls $0.10, HJ raises to $0.45, CO folds, Hero calls $0.45, SB calls $0.40, BB folds, UTG calls $0.35
Flop: ($1.90) 2:diamond: 3:spade: Q:club:
SB checks, UTG checks, HJ checks, Hero checks
Turn: ($1.90) 4:spade:
SB checks, UTG bets $0.54, HJ calls $0.54, Hero ??
Okay, I know this one should be mucked pre too, but that's not my question this time. I'm wondering do I flat the turn or raise it?
Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha High
Hand Converter provided by Line Checker
SB: $13.63
BB: $4.67
UTG: $7.99
HJ: $21.32
CO: $10.00
Hero: $21.88
Preflop: ($0.15)
Hero has 7:heart: 6:diamond: 5:spade: 5:club:
UTG calls $0.10, HJ raises to $0.45, CO folds, Hero calls $0.45, SB calls $0.40, BB folds, UTG calls $0.35
Flop: ($1.90) 2:diamond: 3:spade: Q:club:
SB checks, UTG checks, HJ checks, Hero checks
Turn: ($1.90) 4:spade:
SB checks, UTG bets $0.54, HJ calls $0.54, Hero ??
C
cAPSLOCK
Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
You raise! If there is one thing PLO will teach you is to get value in when you are this much ahead ALWAYS. And you you buy yourself a fold then that's good too. On this dry board you have the nuts, protected, with villians only having a few clean outs assuming they have any real outs at all.
A pot bet is almost certainly good, and will likely fold at least one player. If they both call, congrats.
A pot bet is almost certainly good, and will likely fold at least one player. If they both call, congrats.
cjatud2012
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Silver Level
okay okay lol, I raised pot, I think I'm just being results-oriented because the HJ called, the 9 of spades hit the river to complete the flush, and villain leads for pot, so I folded I didn't know if I ought to wait to commit to the pot or if raising was good, guess I got my answer lol.
I didn't know if I ought to wait to commit to the pot or if raising was good, guess I got my answer lol.
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C
cAPSLOCK
Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
Here I will wake up the thread.
And I was NOT DRUNK.
Make as much fun as you like, but I wont stop liking it.
Full Tilt Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.02 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Button ($2.62)
SB ($4.58)
BB ($1.13)
UTG ($2)
pSYCHICFISH (MP) ($4.79)
CO ($2.11)
Preflop: pSYCHICFISH is MP with 7
, 8
, 2
, 9
1 fold, pSYCHICFISH calls $0.02, 1 fold, Button calls $0.02, SB bets $0.10, BB calls $0.08, pSYCHICFISH calls $0.08, Button calls $0.08
Flop: ($0.40) A
, 8
, 8
(4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, pSYCHICFISH bets $0.20, 1 fold, SB calls $0.20, 1 fold
Turn: ($0.80) 3
(2 players)
SB checks, pSYCHICFISH checks
River: ($0.80) 4
(2 players)
SB checks, pSYCHICFISH checks
Total pot: $0.80 | Rake: $0.05
Results:
SB had A
, Q
, A
, K
(full house, Aces over eights).
pSYCHICFISH had 7
, 8
, 2
, 9
(three of a kind, eights).
Outcome: SB won $0.75
And I was NOT DRUNK.
Make as much fun as you like, but I wont stop liking it.
Full Tilt Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.02 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Button ($2.62)
SB ($4.58)
BB ($1.13)
UTG ($2)
pSYCHICFISH (MP) ($4.79)
CO ($2.11)
Preflop: pSYCHICFISH is MP with 7
1 fold, pSYCHICFISH calls $0.02, 1 fold, Button calls $0.02, SB bets $0.10, BB calls $0.08, pSYCHICFISH calls $0.08, Button calls $0.08
Flop: ($0.40) A
SB checks, BB checks, pSYCHICFISH bets $0.20, 1 fold, SB calls $0.20, 1 fold
Turn: ($0.80) 3
SB checks, pSYCHICFISH checks
River: ($0.80) 4
SB checks, pSYCHICFISH checks
Total pot: $0.80 | Rake: $0.05
Results:
SB had A
pSYCHICFISH had 7
Outcome: SB won $0.75
H
huongnd
Rising Star
Bronze Level
There is no better thing in poker, regardless of game, that a person who is willing to ship a lot of money in pre and postflop. You kinda have it backwards, you dont want to find a game where people are tighter etc, you want the games were people are 4 betting junk and shipping lots of flops.