Peeleo's FR cash thread

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You can go a little lower but 20-1 implied is great. I'll usually call at 15-1 if their range is a bit stronger (tighter player, EP open, etc).

Ah great thanks a lot, another leak plugged

And haha i love how you're even handing out the nit jokes yourself these days FX :)
 
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Ah great thanks a lot, another leak plugged

And haha i love how you're even handing out the nit jokes yourself these days FX :)

Well, if I can't laugh at myself at least I know that others will.:D
 
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May have to re-think the title of this thread, reading fee's 6 max guide again + writing down a solid opening range + running like usain bolt = playing my 2 biggest winning sessions of this whole stake, at 6max, and me $25 IN PROFIT after RB.

I think i've learnt/been reminded of a lot already since this started:

- I'm not as good at poker as I thought, maybe let myself get a bit complacent lately, writing down actual opening ranges and sticking to them has brought my stats down to decent looking rather than loose/passive.

- Run bad still effects me, or at least it has done for this, poss due to added pressure that ive put on myself to do well. Which wasn't nessecary

- Run bad ends :)

I have now caught up with my EV line thanks to 2 big winning sessions at 6max and have finally started making money!

Balance on tilt is now $175 and so far I have had $150 put into my account so onwards and upwards from here!



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Turn off your EV line imo.

Other than that run good my friend :)
 
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I think i've learnt/been reminded of a lot already since this started:

- I'm not as good at poker as I thought, maybe let myself get a bit complacent lately, writing down actual opening ranges and sticking to them has brought my stats down to decent looking rather than loose/passive.

- Run bad still effects me, or at least it has done for this, poss due to added pressure that ive put on myself to do well. Which wasn't nessecary


Don't beat yourself up. None of us are as good as we think we are. When we run good we think we're great, when we run bad we think that we suck. Humility is the 1st step towards success.

I took the 1st step of humility on October 7th, 2010 when I dropped down to 2nl. Since then, I have never, not for a moment thought that I was any good and any success I acheived was due to the fact that so many others were just worse than me.

Runbad affects all of us. I think I am finally get to the point after ~ 300k hands of being able to separate good decisions from results.I doubt if I have completely got there but I know I am better than I was.

Once you realize that there is no one way to play poker successfully, that the riddle is not solved once and for all, that we have to relearn over and over many lessions then you can relax. If you have faith in EV and try to play smart you can grow your bankroll.

If I can do it anyone can. :)
 
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Some good advice Fx, ive been beating myself up at the start of this month also, and thinking im a failure for not crushing these micros, i can also say i have a problem with run bad, its not until i keep my emotions in check and play the solid game i know i can play that i stop tilting and stop making bad descisions. Maybe we should give ourselves a bit more credit for actually trying to beat the game in the first place and stop expecting things to happen so fast, doesnt matter how much better than other people we actually are if we are much worse than them at dealing with bad runs.

Good job anyways peelo!! Sad to see you deserting the FR though!
 
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Yeah I set mine. It's really the only time I flat preflop right now. I occasionally will flat AJs ATs.

I tend to fold 22-66 to an EP/MP raise, in part because of the chance of set over set, also because 77+ has some showdown value so in these situations I tend to setmine with 77-99, sometimes TT and if villain is a super nit JJ. Vs a LP raise I'll flat with 22-66 for setmining purposes if villain is tight and if villain is a LAGtard or Aggromonkey I'll bet/raise on flops without an Ace and no more than one Broadway.


Please don't ever worry about set over set situations. They happen so rarely and are just part of the game, genuine coolers.

As far as what you are setmining with against EP raises, you are doing it completely backwards imo. When a super nit opens in EP what range do you put him on? Lets say JJ+, AK.

What sort of flops will he get money in with this sort of range? Low ones. 237, T94. He will love getting stacks in with his overpairs.

Now what sort of hands do we hit those flops really hard with? 22-99.

If you are going to setmine against select people make it against nits or droolers as they are going to put the most money in post flop on boards that we he our set with. Against a TAG or LAG they will very often be hitting top pair or a draw and most will not want to get stacks in with that.
 
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Please don't ever worry about set over set situations. They happen so rarely and are just part of the game, genuine coolers.

As far as what you are setmining with against EP raises, you are doing it completely backwards imo. When a super nit opens in EP what range do you put him on? Lets say JJ+, AK.

What sort of flops will he get money in with this sort of range? Low ones. 237, T94. He will love getting stacks in with his overpairs.

Now what sort of hands do we hit those flops really hard with? 22-99.

If you are going to setmine against select people make it against nits or droolers as they are going to put the most money in post flop on boards that we he our set with. Against a TAG or LAG they will very often be hitting top pair or a draw and most will not want to get stacks in with that.


I should have been more clear. Against a nit I'd probably set mine with any pp up to and including JJ.

As far as 77+, what I meant was that 22-55 really only have set value unless you use them as a bluff which is fine against very loose players (VPIP 21+) who often are raising Ax/ Kx hands and will fold to low flops. 77+ often works against players who play suited connectors because if someone is playing 65s+ 75s+ you can frequently get one street of value out them without a set, especially on wet boards and if they come up short on their draw and end up with middle or bottom pair you can take the pot at showdown.
 
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Sorry I havent updated this in a while, just not getting into many tough spots really, I'll do a proper update tonight after my session but as a rough guess, my balance is sitting at around $169 today after RB, so up about 7BI's for the month so far inc RB. Did get it up to about $185 at one point but lost a few standard cooler BI's KK<AK QQ<TT that flopped a set etc etc.

Have been pretty much solely playing 6max for the last week, its hitting my volume in a bad way but I've been hitting like 70ftp's per day on average so still on to make Silver iron. Not sure if going forward I'll be able to play solely 6m as it means I wont hit the 25k p/m hand goal, will have to see what the backers think of my volume/progress at the end of this month.

I have reached a point now though where a crucial point has been reached in the stake............ I have enough points for a FT bathrobe, which I have worked out will cost me $12.96 in RB, but i'm not sure if i'm allowed to use ftp's as its effectively money out of the backers pockets too!
 
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I have reached a point now though where a crucial point has been reached in the stake............ I have enough points for a FT bathrobe, which I have worked out will cost me $12.96 in RB, but i'm not sure if i'm allowed to use ftp's as its effectively money out of the backers pockets too!
I'd say you wait until the staking period is over to spend points. That way it comes out of what is solely yours.
 
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I'd say you wait until the staking period is over to spend points. That way it comes out of what is solely yours.

Yeah thought this would be the answer for those reasons, np :)

So i'm all setup to play at work on my lunchbreaks now :) Have got XP running on an old 2nd hand laptop which i put a lightweight linux distro on, using virtualbox. Got my first session in today at lunch and played 200 hands-ish, so I wont have to worry about hitting my volume anymore as that means that I can play for 1.5hrs when I come home from work and hit close to 1k hands per day :D

Past few sessions i've been a bit down/break even, balance is currently sat at $167.65, up for the month so far, but still only up a little on the whole thing as it started so badly!

I am though playing pretty much only 6max atm, playing like a noob though with a hand chart to remind me to keep it tight! But its effective, as I feel quite stable and confident enough to grind back BI's even after losing a couple at the start of a session. So i'm v.happy atm, I can play a bit at lunch and don't have to hammer myself after a long day at work :)
 
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Ok, dunno if i'll get much feedback on this, but i'm gonna attach a txt file of the hands from my evening session, about 490ish, i'd be really grateful if I could get a session review for the main hands b/c I really feel like I got pwned in a few spots tonight. Only finished down 1.5Bi's in the end but dont feel like I played too well :( Any advice would be appreciated, cheers.

6max session btw, sn's donkstacker
 

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Just had a quick browse before bed and found a couple of spots for ya...


Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.10(BB) Replayer
SB ($27.97)
BB ($10)
Hero ($10)
UTG+1 ($11.94)
CO ($14.80)
BTN ($10)

Dealt to Hero Q Q

Hero raises to $0.40, fold, fold, fold, SB calls $0.35, fold

FLOP ($0.90) 4 J 4

SB checks, Hero bets $0.70, SB calls $0.70

TURN ($2.30) 4 J 4 3

SB checks, Hero bets $1.90, SB raises to $4.20, Hero calls $2.30

RIVER ($10.70) 4 J 4 3 K

SB bets $22.67 (AI), Hero folds

SB wins $9.99

Betting the turn to get value from Jacks is fine but calling the raise then folding the river is spew. Fold to the raise or shove if he is retarded enough to be calling with QJ-AJ. I think I would have folded as I am full ring nit and there is a lot that beats you there. Maybe turn bet could be a little smaller to unless you are value towning a calling station...


Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.10(BB) Replayer
SB ($10)
BB ($14.39)
UTG ($22.84)
UTG+1 ($11.33)
Hero ($10)
BTN ($9.72)

Dealt to Hero 6 6

UTG raises to $0.35, fold, Hero calls $0.35, fold, fold, fold

FLOP ($0.85) 7 T 8

UTG checks, Hero checks

TURN ($0.85) 7 T 8 4

UTG checks, Hero bets $0.65, UTG raises to $1.90, Hero calls $1.25

What was the plan calling this? When you are drawing to 4 card straights or flushes your implied odds decrease significantly as it becomes obvious you have got it. Also if you spike a 9 do you really want to get stacks in? (especially if it is a club or heart)
 
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Thanks for the comments, I knew that I had screwed up the QQ hand as soon as he shoved the river. The 66, i'm not entirely sure why i called the turn raise there, it is a terrible call and i'm really only hoping for 1 of 2 5's that dont make a flush.

Does my head in sometimes to see that i've done shit like that in a session, like, I know thats a dumb call, if i seen it in a HA thread i'd say its a dumb turn call.........but lo and behold I make it myself. Really need to make sure i'm 100% switched on when playing as theres no excuse there.

Had a good day today, got my first decent session in at lunchtime and made a nice 1.5Bi's from the lunchtime crowd, followed that up with a .5 Bi this evening and its a 2Bi day for me :)

Balance at $174.94 so almost $25 up on this total, which is good after the shite start i had!
 
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wtg in making a comback.keep up the good work.
 
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are you just playing 6max now peeleo.
ive just switched to 6max after running horrific at fr.
dont you find it much easier to win consistently at 6max, full ring just started to seem like endless coolers and whoever ran the best won.
 
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Yeah I havent played a single hand of FR for about 7/8 sessions now, and my BR is looking all the better for it.

I think i'll stay for the reasons that you stated actually, I know its just variance but I ran so bad in my first few thou hands of this, as soon as I switch to 6max I flick the boomswitch and i've been pwning souls since. I've even had a bit of run bad at 6m too but the difference is that you have sooo much more oppurtunity to make that money back in a session.

I can't remember exactly but I'm sure the last 6 or 7 sessions have been winners for me, and after last month a wall of green sessions is welcoming!

My balance is sat at $194 - $198 so if I carry on running good then i'll be breaking the $200 anytime soon :D
 
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Thanks to RB friday FT balance is now past the $200 mark :D

$206 on FT now!
 
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I've just stumbled upon this thread... this is really interesting stuff Peeleo. I'm not yet at 10nl (still struggling at 5nl) but I'm liking what I'm reading, and a lot of it applies to me as I 6max too. Subscribed!
 
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Sorry there hasn't been an update to this since forever, moving house so quite busy atm, but by this time tomorrow I should be all moved and settling into my new abode, going from a 2 bed + 1 Bathroom house to 4bed, 2 Bathroom and 1 Study :D.....which is obv gonna be used for poker!

I met my wife when she was a single mum and she was in the house we're in now, 3 years later we have got married and had a child of our own so the occupancy has doubled but the space has stayed the same! Will be good to get a LOT more space plus the obv benefits of having an office environment to play my poker in so I get completely away from everyone :) Can't wait :) :) :) :)

Quick update on the pokerz, my last update I sent to the backers I was sitting at $193 on FT, that doomswitched me though and I lost nearly 4BI's in the first few days of this week, since had like 3 winning sessions in a row and i'm now only down 2BI's since the last update and my roll is sat at $176. Kinda annoying as that means im only up $25 on the whole stake (been staked $150 so far) but for the month inc RB i'm up $65 so if I run like that next month then it'll all be profit rather than $40 makeup + $25 profitz.

So not stellar results so far, not exactly pwning souls at 10nl, but since moving back to 6max i've been doing well so i'm happy with the move, coulda been broke by now if i'd stuck at FR!

Will be putting up a long post in the near future to hopefully get a 10k hand - leak review from some peeps here, just to check theres no glaring leaks in my game.

Laters potatas
 
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Hey dude glad to see you back posting. Good luck in your new house and dont forget to keep in touch if you want some of us to look over hhs, stats etc etc.
 
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So, the move to the new house is done! Its soooo much bigger than our old one its unreal and we're all loving the new space we all have :)

Below is a pic of my new poker room (EDIT: picture to follow tomorrow) officially a "study" for all, but thats just a name/concept to keep the wife sweet! We all know who will be using that the most lol .....actually my wife does do and she's happy with it and not bothered at all that i'll be locking myself away in there a lot, one night of no poker per week is all she's asking :)

On the poker side of things I'm continuing to run fair - bad, my volume this month has been admittedly shit, but i don't know if this is due to me changing over to 6m or being mad busy with the move, i hope its the latter, although I am thinking of bumping my tables up to 6 from 5 as I'm feeling quite comfortable with my opening ranges etc, just a bit wary that I might miss a few spots or read a situation incorrectly...... might just stick to 5 as I do feel that I am doing well.

Was going to post graphs etc but virgin media arent fitting my cable+broadband until the 9th of april! Which means that i have to do the wireless tethering with my phone at home as well as at work, and which also means I can't be uploading loads of photos/screenshots to imageshack :(

My months still going good, even if it has been on a bit of a slump lately, still up about 6Bi's inc RB for the month so can't complain I guess. Might be getting a bit confident but I dont feel like I'm getting into any tough spots atm either, everythings been kinda straightforward with quite easy options available, I feel like my aggression is ramping up nicely and, it feels anyway, like I am taking down a lot of pots without s/d, although my graph says different but could be skewed by the blinds.

I've played nearly 11k hands of 6max now so when I get my broadband installed I shall be posting a shedload of stats and trying to get some analysis, hopefully get some good feedback there and move things up a gear.

I'll try to post more here but i'm really not being troubled very much imo so unless you guys (talking to backers here) want more BR/volume/graph progress info i think i'll leave it at the odd update for now, until the broadband goes in and I do my stat review. Ofc if I do get into some tough spots I'll post but until then............

Laters dudes
 
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