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ok all that I think is great big goals great ideas I hope you will be super in it seems to me a great contribution so I hope that you can meet your goals and see that freroll with your initiative or name hehe and can also play it at the beginning of the year that comes luck greetings:fight::birthday:
 
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Very first hand I play I’m at table 11 minutes. Button straddle is on I raise to $15 w :10d4::10c4: in SB

3 callers

Flop :10s4::9d4::4d4:

I lead $30 into $63

CO jams for a total of $178

I obviously call, everyone else folds.

He has :7d4::8d4: and binks the diamond on the river

It’s ok. $200 isn’t too much of a hole to dig out of

NH just bet bigger. Something like 40-45 would be better. V's calling range is draws mainly and we want to charge those more
 
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Well that went very poorly. I lost $955 over 4 hours. Eek. Mostly ran pretty terrible. $140 of that loss was playing bad. One too loose call for $85 and one bad bluff for $55. Otherwise I ran horrible.

Total: -$1,477 over 19 hours

This challenge has just gotten a lot more challenging as I have quite the hole to dig out from
 
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Very first hand I play I’m at table 11 minutes. Button straddle is on I raise to $15 w :10d4::10c4: in SB

3 callers

Flop :10s4::9d4::4d4:

I lead $30 into $63

CO jams for a total of $178

I obviously call, everyone else folds.

He has :7d4::8d4: and binks the diamond on the river

It’s ok. $200 isn’t too much of a hole to dig out of



“I’ve heard good players complain to me about how they get drawn out on all the time. But if they want to better their game and better their emotional state while playing, they should realize it’s a mirage. If you are an excellent player, people are going to draw out on you a lot more than you’re going to draw out on them because they’re simply going to have the worst hand against you a lot more times than you have the worst hand against them. There’s no way you’re going to draw out on anybody if you don’t get all your money in there on the worst hand.” — Bobby Baldwin

Situations like yours always remind me of this quote.
 
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“I’ve heard good players complain to me about how they get drawn out on all the time. But if they want to better their game and better their emotional state while playing, they should realize it’s a mirage. If you are an excellent player, people are going to draw out on you a lot more than you’re going to draw out on them because they’re simply going to have the worst hand against you a lot more times than you have the worst hand against them. There’s no way you’re going to draw out on anybody if you don’t get all your money in there on the worst hand.” — Bobby Baldwin

Situations like yours always remind me of this quote.


yes I'm comfortable with how these spots go. variance is part of the game and I'm rolled for it. I'm rolled for $2/5 so I can take these hits. It never feels good of course, but getting it in with top set is the dream and this is just the way it goes sometimes.
 
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This is certainly the type of situation that I am struggling with right now. It is also the reason I am not ready for ring games yet. I am doing much better with tournaments at the moment. So, I am going to state some observations. I am no where near your level of play, so I would love to hear your thoughts on how to combine these ideas into a better game plan.
So first off, I have read that $1/$2 live plays like micro stakes online. Because of the tendency of many microstakes players to get their entire stack in with any connection to the board, it is my understanding that using pot control techniques with top pair top kicker is not as profitable as getting the stack in when it comes to micro stakes. However, if you are playing with better caliber players that are capable of making harder folds, that completely changes EV. Top pair top kicker suddenly finds itself only up against better hands. The issue I am having is not having enough information on the players to identify the better caliber players interspersed with the average microstakes player. I am hoping that the winnings will balance the losses until I am better able to identify the caliber of players, but I do not have enough data yet.
So, as to the specifics of this hand. EP opens with $15. At those stakes, that is a 7.5 bb open from a tight player correct? I watched you do some amazing folds on that televised game. I am not sure what kind of other reads you had on this table. But I have to question how much the combination of trying to win back your losses, only 30 minutes left to play, and the stress from being down for a long time, had to do with the decision making. When both players call that 3bet, I am sure some alarms went off for you. I am not trying to say you did anything wrong here. I really would have expected that second caller to fold to your 3bet. So just out of curiosity, what range did you put each of them on? That was a fairly wet flop. I am guessing that you are hoping EP has tens, Jack's, or queens. But what in the world did the next guy have? Pocket nines? Broadway connected suited? That last one seems like a stretch. I am guessing that you felt hitting the ace on the flop would give you top hand. So firing a continuation bet is understandable. But having a three-way pot at this point certainly doesn't help your odds. I would hope the flush draw isn't a big factor here. So I really don't think making them pay for a draw is necessary here. If you are not already beaten, probably not going to lose on the river. So I think what your friend was trying to say is you have very little fold equity here with your continuation bet. Real question is would you fold on the turn after checking if one of them goes all in. If the answer is no, doesn't really matter.


If you're used to playing online microstakes, then $1/2 could seem big but these players are terrible. I don't need to get tricky or make really good reads or tight folds except in the strangest of situations. In this spot, a $15 open is completely standard. the fact that it's 7.5bb means nothing in $1/2. That's part of the reason I like $1/2 so much is you can fold for so cheap so long and then easily play a big pot everytime you have a premium hand because players regularly raise 5x-10x as an opening raise.

That said, I do put him on a relatively tight range. But AK is doing great against that range. I don't expect he is foldin AJ or KQ and I don't think he's limping those either.

Yes, I understand once the 3rd player calls the check raise he's got a strong range. But these players overvalue AQ etc and the pot odds I'm getting are amazing. Though I'm aware I'm likely beat in 1 spot I can potentially win a side pot and/or suckout with great odds. It's also possible (albeit unlikely) that I'm ahead of both players. First guy could have a big draw and 2nd guy could have a worse ace. But most likely I'm up against 2pair+ and another Ace.
 
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If you're used to playing online microstakes, then $1/2 could seem big but these players are terrible. I don't need to get tricky or make really good reads or tight folds except in the strangest of situations. In this spot, a $15 open is completely standard. the fact that it's 7.5bb means nothing in $1/2. That's part of the reason I like $1/2 so much is you can fold for so cheap so long and then easily play a big pot everytime you have a premium hand because players regularly raise 5x-10x as an opening raise.

That said, I do put him on a relatively tight range. But AK is doing great against that range. I don't expect he is foldin AJ or KQ and I don't think he's limping those either.

Yes, I understand once the 3rd player calls the check raise he's got a strong range. But these players overvalue AQ etc and the pot odds I'm getting are amazing. Though I'm aware I'm likely beat in 1 spot I can potentially win a side pot and/or suckout with great odds. It's also possible (albeit unlikely) that I'm ahead of both players. First guy could have a big draw and 2nd guy could have a worse ace. But most likely I'm up against 2pair+ and another Ace.
Wow, I had no idea it was like that. So, it sounds like a tight strategy works extremely well at those stakes. Is the max buy-in typically $200? I am trying to figure out how much of a bankroll I will need to feel comfortable at that limit. My goal is to build a bankroll online so I can play live. Do you think 50x max buy-in is sufficient for variance? I am going to go for 100x for online until I move up in stakes each time, but I mainly play tournaments right now. I have some leaks to manage before I get serious about ring games.
 
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Awful run for 4 hours, uuuh, some pampering and you are good to go. It's good that the session wasn't too long, so the stress is minimal. Do you feel the length & stress similarly (tournament are long after all).
 
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Put in another session last night. 4.25 hours. These are getting less and less fun to report. I lost $350. Yikes. But facts are facts

Now I’m at - $1,827 over 23.25 hours
 
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I play low stakes for a living practically (side hustle) 1/3 mainly 80/120 buy in game. @ Bicycle Casino in Cali. Your goals are unrealistic....You want to average 100 big blinds an hour? Sorry but that is literally laugh out loud...I consider myself one of the veterans at the table and some of the best players or players like me only average about 20-30$ an hour playing these stakes. To be honest seeing that you really don't have any cash game experience I would say your literally at the same level of play as all the other Joe Schmo's at the table. You have already lost 1,800$.....or nearly every session i think you honestly have a better chance of losing 10k then winning 10k. You sound really ignorant when you call all the other players at the 1/2 game "Terrible" yet your the one who hasn't won a single session and are down 2k. If you want to see what some realistic win rates are read below. I'm guessing you play in Vegas since the buy-ins are 400. I just find it funny how you make this thread and make up all this impossible crap win 10,000$ in 100 hours LOL LOL. When it really just is not that easy at all. Good luck though. I really just don't see that happening.
 

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Just resort back to basics and refresh and rebuild... simple.

losing or winning doesnt make you better or worse but the decisions we make.

advice... when your up in a session finish early just to get a few minor winds out of the way and build some momentum. I know we should never quit a winning session early but this is an exception especially when we play until we lose.

also we make our graph sometimes... make sure we arent self sabataging ourselves.

so to sum up.

small winning sessions should be a goal for next couple of sessions to build that confidence.

go back to basics what gives you strength as a player and build on the foundation.

have a break if you take another couple hits. your tilted
 
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I play low stakes for a living practically (side hustle) 1/3 mainly 80/120 buy in game. @ Bicycle Casino in Cali. Your goals are unrealistic....You want to average 100 big blinds an hour? Sorry but that is literally laugh out loud...I consider myself one of the veterans at the table and some of the best players or players like me only average about 20-30$ an hour playing these stakes. To be honest seeing that you really don't have any cash game experience I would say your literally at the same level of play as all the other Joe Schmo's at the table. You have already lost 1,800$.....or nearly every session i think you honestly have a better chance of losing 10k then winning 10k. You sound really ignorant when you call all the other players at the 1/2 game "Terrible" yet your the one who hasn't won a single session and are down 2k. If you want to see what some realistic win rates are read below. I'm guessing you play in Vegas since the buy-ins are 400. I just find it funny how you make this thread and make up all this impossible crap win 10,000$ in 100 hours LOL LOL. When it really just is not that easy at all. Good luck though. I really just don't see that happening.

you misunderstand my goals completely.

my #1 goal is to play at least 100 hours

my #2 goal is to make any money

my 3rd goal is if I make 10k or more I have a celebration.

I'm not limited to 100 hours. This is over 16 weeks. I could potentiall play a lot more than 100 hours.

I'm well aware that 100bb an hour is completely unrealistic.

I did not just begin playing cash. This is my first live cash challenge I ever reported on and I started on a downswing. This happens sometimes. I've booked plenty of cash sessions and have my own pretty graphs I could share but I'm not interesting in bragging, I'm interested in growing.

Best of luck to you!
 
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you misunderstand my goals completely.

my #1 goal is to play at least 100 hours

my #2 goal is to make any money

my 3rd goal is if I make 10k or more I have a celebration.

I'm not limited to 100 hours. This is over 16 weeks. I could potentiall play a lot more than 100 hours.

I'm well aware that 100bb an hour is completely unrealistic.

I did not just begin playing cash. This is my first live cash challenge I ever reported on and I started on a downswing. This happens sometimes. I've booked plenty of cash sessions and have my own pretty graphs I could share but I'm not interesting in bragging, I'm interested in growing.

Best of luck to you!


:congrats:


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Since when was it appropriate to come into a thread and call the OP a Schmo and ignorant. Soto grow up and learn some manners. Do you have any idea how offensive you have been? No need to reply, because Im not intetested in your opinion and have blocked you...as no doubt you will want the last word as your type does.
 
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you misunderstand my goals completely.

my #1 goal is to play at least 100 hours

my #2 goal is to make any money

my 3rd goal is if I make 10k or more I have a celebration.

I'm not limited to 100 hours. This is over 16 weeks. I could potentiall play a lot more than 100 hours.

I'm well aware that 100bb an hour is completely unrealistic.

I did not just begin playing cash. This is my first live cash challenge I ever reported on and I started on a downswing. This happens sometimes. I've booked plenty of cash sessions and have my own pretty graphs I could share but I'm not interesting in bragging, I'm interested in growing.

Best of luck to you!
Well said Missjacki. You handled that much better than I would have [emoji3]
 
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I didn't know this thread existed! In!
 
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I play low stakes for a living practically (side hustle) 1/3 mainly 80/120 buy in game. @ Bicycle Casino in Cali. Your goals are unrealistic....You want to average 100 big blinds an hour? Sorry but that is literally laugh out loud...I consider myself one of the veterans at the table and some of the best players or players like me only average about 20-30$ an hour playing these stakes. To be honest seeing that you really don't have any cash game experience I would say your literally at the same level of play as all the other Joe Schmo's at the table. You have already lost 1,800$.....or nearly every session i think you honestly have a better chance of losing 10k then winning 10k. You sound really ignorant when you call all the other players at the 1/2 game "Terrible" yet your the one who hasn't won a single session and are down 2k. If you want to see what some realistic win rates are read below. I'm guessing you play in Vegas since the buy-ins are 400. I just find it funny how you make this thread and make up all this impossible crap win 10,000$ in 100 hours LOL LOL. When it really just is not that easy at all. Good luck though. I really just don't see that happening.



Dude..... SMH
 
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We’re back at it!

Very first hand I play I’m at table 11 minutes. Button straddle is on I raise to $15 w :10d4::10c4: in SB

3 callers

Flop :10s4::9d4::4d4:

I lead $30 into $63

CO jams for a total of $178

I obviously call, everyone else folds.

He has :7d4::8d4: and binks the diamond on the river

It’s ok. $200 isn’t too much of a hole to dig out of

I like it. I would bet bigger on the flop. Only thing I would do differently.
 
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Bump

Bump bump, heard on the grapevine you might have some news.
 
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Bump bump, heard on the grapevine you might have some news.


Lol yes.

I won a platinum pass and I’m going to the Bahamas in January and playing the pokerstars $25,000 buy in championship all for FREE!

I went to tourney series at a tribal Casino a couple hours from my house this weekend and had planned to get in s whole bunch of hours of cash towards this challenge since I was there 3 days.

But I ended up min cashing both events I played so was never really “on the rail” to go play cash...

Then I found out I won the platinum pass and once I busted my final tourney immediately got drunk to celebrate. Lol. I don’t drink and play so I added zero hours to this challenge.

I’m not going to quit this challenge I will still continue to post results of all my live cash sessions here for the remainder of 2018. However playing live micro stakes cash will now take a back seat to me training for this tournament.

😁
 
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Awesome, congrats, how did you actually win the pass?
 
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Awesome, congrats, how did you actually win the pass?

I entered a short story writing contest sponsored by Maria Konnikova and pokerstars. Write a true story about your life + poker...what poker means to you what it has taught you how it’s helped you overcome something etc.

There were 86 entries and 6 finalists and ONE winner. 😊


One pass to rule them all....lol

I included a link to the story of you care to read it. It’s 5 pages.
 

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Lol yes.

I won a platinum pass and I’m going to the Bahamas in January and playing the pokerstars $25,000 buy in championship all for FREE!

I went to tourney series at a tribal Casino a couple hours from my house this weekend and had planned to get in s whole bunch of hours of cash towards this challenge since I was there 3 days.

But I ended up min cashing both events I played so was never really “on the rail” to go play cash...

Then I found out I won the platinum pass and once I busted my final tourney immediately got drunk to celebrate. Lol. I don’t drink and play so I added zero hours to this challenge.

I’m not going to quit this challenge I will still continue to post results of all my live cash sessions here for the remainder of 2018. However playing live micro stakes cash will now take a back seat to me training for this tournament.

😁



Awesome! Good for you Jacki! Go there and win the whole thing.
 
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