Beanfacekilla
Legend
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Beanfacekilla
Legend
Silver Level
I posted 9-9 hand because I wanted some verification of how bad it was.
That's why I thought it was relevant in this thread (about tilt).
The session was like mostly b or c game, ending with that hand. Sometimes, I have a very difficult time with emotions (bipolar, clinically diagnosed), and I don't think or see things clearly. I usually manage my emotions well, but sometimes they get the best of me.
This is a journal of sorts. I am hoping to be able to improve my mental game, and improve my own recognition of my moods and poker game in real time.
Thanks for the input on the hand Mbrenneman. You are right about analysis of spot. We aren't good often.
That's why I thought it was relevant in this thread (about tilt).
The session was like mostly b or c game, ending with that hand. Sometimes, I have a very difficult time with emotions (bipolar, clinically diagnosed), and I don't think or see things clearly. I usually manage my emotions well, but sometimes they get the best of me.
This is a journal of sorts. I am hoping to be able to improve my mental game, and improve my own recognition of my moods and poker game in real time.
Thanks for the input on the hand Mbrenneman. You are right about analysis of spot. We aren't good often.
Beanfacekilla
Legend
Silver Level
I don't know. I usually don't raise unless in LP, and HJ qualifies I think. Borderline to me at that time.
Terribly played hand from start to finish.
IPlay
Bum hunts 25NL
Silver Level
100% a raise from HJ. 99 is just too strong to set mine with here and raising is for sure the best play. I mean, are we only raising JJ+ AQ+?
That's pretty bad and any non drooler live player is going to be able to play well against you. I'm not going to lie I have had my moments in live games where I limp along with a hand I should raise but there has to be a very good reason to do so.
That's pretty bad and any non drooler live player is going to be able to play well against you. I'm not going to lie I have had my moments in live games where I limp along with a hand I should raise but there has to be a very good reason to do so.
Beanfacekilla
Legend
Silver Level
There were some reasons for it, dynamics. I got caught bluffing a short while before. Credit on cbet bluffs would be near zero against some villains on the table.
Beanfacekilla
Legend
Silver Level
So yeah, this hand just happened...
Sorry for the strange format, bear with me. All info is there.
6. UTG +2 ($268) 10d-10h. 1L, UTG+1 raises to $12, we call, others call. Mw Flop 10c-3c-5h. Checks to UTG+1, he bets $28, we raise to $70 (he has disorganized stack, he might have a little more than this), folds back to UTG+1, he calls it off, has like $30 back or so. Turn 6d. He checks, we bet enough to put him all in, he calls. River 8. We roll, guy rolls 2-4o. He has a straight. I had no reason to think the guy would raise such a trash hand in EP. I thought he had Overpair.... (-$120)
Then about 10 mins later, he did the same thing to someone else. Other person misplaced their hand though. I guess this guy likes 2-4o?
I am sitting here steaming a bit. I'm trying to stay put, because this guy on my right is really really bad, and he has almost 200BB.
Sorry for the strange format, bear with me. All info is there.
6. UTG +2 ($268) 10d-10h. 1L, UTG+1 raises to $12, we call, others call. Mw Flop 10c-3c-5h. Checks to UTG+1, he bets $28, we raise to $70 (he has disorganized stack, he might have a little more than this), folds back to UTG+1, he calls it off, has like $30 back or so. Turn 6d. He checks, we bet enough to put him all in, he calls. River 8. We roll, guy rolls 2-4o. He has a straight. I had no reason to think the guy would raise such a trash hand in EP. I thought he had Overpair.... (-$120)
Then about 10 mins later, he did the same thing to someone else. Other person misplaced their hand though. I guess this guy likes 2-4o?
I am sitting here steaming a bit. I'm trying to stay put, because this guy on my right is really really bad, and he has almost 200BB.
Beanfacekilla
Legend
Silver Level
Man, I just keep rinning into it here today.
7. BB ($200) Ah-Kh. MP guy raises to $10, loose player in SB calls, we 3b to $40, MP player flats, SB folds. Flop 7-7-4r (one heart). We bet $50, guy says, exact words, "call all in". He tries to shove, but because of the way he worded it, dealer rules it a call. Turn 5h. We tank, think things through, and check. Dude shoves. We have $110 back. I take my time. I am under pressure, it's difficult for me to even think clearly. It takes me about 45 seconds to even figure out I would call my remaining $110 to go after $290ish. I finally come to the right decision, and fold (2.9 odds, assuming FD is only savior). Now as I'm typing this, now I wonder if I played the hand wrong. Oh well, I fold. (-$90)
7. BB ($200) Ah-Kh. MP guy raises to $10, loose player in SB calls, we 3b to $40, MP player flats, SB folds. Flop 7-7-4r (one heart). We bet $50, guy says, exact words, "call all in". He tries to shove, but because of the way he worded it, dealer rules it a call. Turn 5h. We tank, think things through, and check. Dude shoves. We have $110 back. I take my time. I am under pressure, it's difficult for me to even think clearly. It takes me about 45 seconds to even figure out I would call my remaining $110 to go after $290ish. I finally come to the right decision, and fold (2.9 odds, assuming FD is only savior). Now as I'm typing this, now I wonder if I played the hand wrong. Oh well, I fold. (-$90)
mbrenneman0
Legend
Silver Level
I dont think you played that wrong.. lets say you have Ace and king outs too, you still only have 15 outs which gives you 31% equity, but you probably dont have Ace and King outs most of the time, so you have 9 outs giving you 19% equity, so longterm youre looking at -EV to call that turn. you could maaayyyybe add 5-10% to your equity for the percantage of times he's bluffing, even then youre barely getting odds to call, but i dont think he's bluffing very often here, he most likely has a 7
Beanfacekilla
Legend
Silver Level
Samuel Lee
Enthusiast
Silver Level
Maybe it will sound a little bit stupid for you or maybe not but here is my advice.
Meditate. Meditation has lots of benefits for your brain.
It will help you be more concentrated and it will help you keep your calm(tilt control also).
I suggest you to try a 30 days meditation session and see how your game improves.
Meditate. Meditation has lots of benefits for your brain.
It will help you be more concentrated and it will help you keep your calm(tilt control also).
I suggest you to try a 30 days meditation session and see how your game improves.
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klickitat
Rock Star
Silver Level
Tilt is all based on your philosophy of poker.
I adopted a fatalist philosophy when it comes to poker.
#1 cards come and go in cycles.
#2 AA has an 80% preflop chance of winning. that means you WILL lose 20% of the time.
#3 there is always variance in the short game and only over the long haul will variances disappear.
#4 once the cards are shuffled the outcome is already decided. I should take every opportunity to win the hand as quickly as possible. The longer I play the hand the greater my chances of getting burned.
#5 expected value comes at the price of a greater percentage of bad beats.
#7 No matter how great the play there is always a small percentage of the time you will lose.
#8 Cycles. do not forget that for every bad beat you have, you will suck out over the long haul.
If I keep these things in mind, the game becomes impersonal. The knowledge that it will come back around keeps you focussed.
If however it never comes around then you are in denial and you need to stop and look at your game. be honest with yourself and about your play.
I adopted a fatalist philosophy when it comes to poker.
#1 cards come and go in cycles.
#2 AA has an 80% preflop chance of winning. that means you WILL lose 20% of the time.
#3 there is always variance in the short game and only over the long haul will variances disappear.
#4 once the cards are shuffled the outcome is already decided. I should take every opportunity to win the hand as quickly as possible. The longer I play the hand the greater my chances of getting burned.
#5 expected value comes at the price of a greater percentage of bad beats.
#7 No matter how great the play there is always a small percentage of the time you will lose.
#8 Cycles. do not forget that for every bad beat you have, you will suck out over the long haul.
If I keep these things in mind, the game becomes impersonal. The knowledge that it will come back around keeps you focussed.
If however it never comes around then you are in denial and you need to stop and look at your game. be honest with yourself and about your play.
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love that omaha
Rock Star
Silver Level
It doesn't sound like you need to change your playing style, but your bankroll management and emotional management. When you are up 3500 in a short period of time one of the 1st things you should do is set a firm limit of what you are willing to lose back 500 would be my number. In general, being willing to take a break for several days or longer when u feel you are taking too many bad beats is also a good strategy. The other thing is to try and take the approach of being glad your opponents are playing poorly against you and be more patient because in the long term if you continue playing solidly it is the players dishing out bad beats to you that will eventually provide a large portion of your income. For your own emotional balance try just saying "nice hand" even when you don't mean and move on to the next hand - bad beats themselves never cost you as much as playing when in a bad mood, frustrated, impatient or feeling like you are doomed to lose.
Beanfacekilla
Legend
Silver Level
Thanks for the suggestions guys.
I don't know how to meditate. I have thought about this several times over the years. My mind is so busy, it's tough to clear it.
As for bankroll, not an issue. Emotions are the primary issue for me. Break-even stretches are tough on me. I am really trying to get out of this mental funk/shitty run.
I don't know how to meditate. I have thought about this several times over the years. My mind is so busy, it's tough to clear it.
As for bankroll, not an issue. Emotions are the primary issue for me. Break-even stretches are tough on me. I am really trying to get out of this mental funk/shitty run.
Samuel Lee
Enthusiast
Silver Level
It is very simple to meditate. Just close your eyes, clear your mind, don't think about anything, just breathe. Simple as that.
You can find more help on Google/YouTube.
Beanfacekilla
Legend
Silver Level
One of my mentors turned me on to this motivational speaker, Eric Thomas (ET for short, AKA ETinspires).
It has lit a fire in me.
I am going to succeed. I am going to push through. I am going to break out of this mental funk.
It has lit a fire in me.
I am going to succeed. I am going to push through. I am going to break out of this mental funk.
mbrenneman0
Legend
Silver Level
got a link?
Beanfacekilla
Legend
Silver Level
Here is the link for the mix tape my mentor told me to listen to.
I also went on YouTube and searched "ETinspires", and watched videos as well.
http://etinspires.com/mixtape/eric-thomas-blueprint-2-success-mixtape-vol-1/
The dude is from Detroit too (where I was born). I live in the metro Detroit area now.
I also went on YouTube and searched "ETinspires", and watched videos as well.
http://etinspires.com/mixtape/eric-thomas-blueprint-2-success-mixtape-vol-1/
The dude is from Detroit too (where I was born). I live in the metro Detroit area now.
mbrenneman0
Legend
Silver Level
I figured you were in detroit from the "motor city" label on your chipstacks you posted earlier.
Ill check this out after work. Thanks :]
Beanfacekilla
Legend
Silver Level
I don't know what it is, as soon as I get the hunger back, things have been going better.
I think some of my opponents were tilting/playing bad...
I will share 2 hands. In both, I feel the V misplayed their hand pretty bad.
I didn't really get put in the cage. I was fortunate, and I was on my A-game most of the session. I still can't help wondering though... If I hadn't listened and watched Eric Thomas, would the session have gone well? Would I have misplayed other hands, that I didn't think twice about? There is one river spot in another hand where I wanted to call, but also wanted to slap myself for thinking about it.
That stuff lit a fire in me.
Anyways, here are two hands. The second is pretty goofy... I was trying to punish limpers with a very very spec hand and hit the lotto. Most of the table erupted in laughter when we showed down (except the dude who got stacked).
3. SB ($301) Kd-Ks. 1 or 2L, CO raises to $6, BTN calls, we 3b to $35, folds to BTN, he ships for $125-$150 (estimate based on stack height). We snap call. Board runs out 5-X-X-J-K. We wait for BTN to show, he shows 2-2 (no set), we show and scoop. (+$166)
20. HJ ($567) 9s-6s. 3L, we raise to $17, 5c. Only guy after us is BTN. Flop 6-6-10cc. Checks to us, we bet $85, folds to SB, he shoves for $130-$150ish. All fold to me, we call. Turn 3, river 9d. SB shows KK, we show our FH and scoop. (+$224)
And, a little chip porn.
I think some of my opponents were tilting/playing bad...
I will share 2 hands. In both, I feel the V misplayed their hand pretty bad.
I didn't really get put in the cage. I was fortunate, and I was on my A-game most of the session. I still can't help wondering though... If I hadn't listened and watched Eric Thomas, would the session have gone well? Would I have misplayed other hands, that I didn't think twice about? There is one river spot in another hand where I wanted to call, but also wanted to slap myself for thinking about it.
That stuff lit a fire in me.
Anyways, here are two hands. The second is pretty goofy... I was trying to punish limpers with a very very spec hand and hit the lotto. Most of the table erupted in laughter when we showed down (except the dude who got stacked).
3. SB ($301) Kd-Ks. 1 or 2L, CO raises to $6, BTN calls, we 3b to $35, folds to BTN, he ships for $125-$150 (estimate based on stack height). We snap call. Board runs out 5-X-X-J-K. We wait for BTN to show, he shows 2-2 (no set), we show and scoop. (+$166)
20. HJ ($567) 9s-6s. 3L, we raise to $17, 5c. Only guy after us is BTN. Flop 6-6-10cc. Checks to us, we bet $85, folds to SB, he shoves for $130-$150ish. All fold to me, we call. Turn 3, river 9d. SB shows KK, we show our FH and scoop. (+$224)
And, a little chip porn.
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jashiggs
Rock Star
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Eightfold path to poker enlightenment video series on deuces cracked certainly opened me up to a lot of mental game / awareness issues and has helped me a lot. Also The mental game of poker is definitely worth a read / study.