F Paulsson
euro love
Silver Level
Everyone's doing their homework, right? It's been two weeks since that post, so y'all should have a couple of dozen hands marked and analyzed by now, I assume.
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slycbnew
Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
I've been doing this, and it's been fairly productive.
I think I'm finding that I'm frequently not betting the river big enough - I keep betting smaller on the river in case villain shoves, but I'm pretty sure that I'm reacting to a relatively small part of his range, rather than to the majority of his range, and I think frequently he'll call a larger bet w that large part of his range.
I'm also getting stuck on turn betsizing, I think I'm letting draws off the hook by betting too small, but not sure yet, still experimenting.
Without specific situations, I realize this is extremely vague, but if anyone has any reactions, I'm interested.
Kasanova King
Visionary
Silver Level
coolnout
Legend
Silver Level
this was fun, need to find more like this:
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HAND #1
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Full Tilt, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker
SB: $8.40 (84 bb)
Hero (BB): $21.11 (211.1 bb)
UTG+2: $10 (100 bb)
MP1: $9.85 (98.5 bb)
MP2: $3.60 (36 bb)
MP3: $11.47 (114.7 bb)
CO: $11.60 (116 bb)
BTN: $10 (100 bb)
Pre-Flop: Hero is BB with A♦ J♦
5 folds, BTN raises to $0.35, SB calls $0.30, Hero raises to $1.20, BTN folds, SB calls $0.85
Flop: ($2.75) K♣ Q♣ T♦ (2 players)
SB bets $2.75, Hero raises to $19.91 and is all-in, SB calls $4.45 and is all-in
Turn: ($17.15) 3♠ (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($17.15) 8♣ (2 players, 2 are all-in)
Results: $17.15 pot ($1.14 rake)
Hero showed A♦ J♦ (a straight, Ten to Ace) and won $16.01 ($7.61 net)
SB showed K♥ 6♥ (a pair of Kings) and lost (-$8.40 net)
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HAND #1
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Full Tilt, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker
SB: $8.40 (84 bb)
Hero (BB): $21.11 (211.1 bb)
UTG+2: $10 (100 bb)
MP1: $9.85 (98.5 bb)
MP2: $3.60 (36 bb)
MP3: $11.47 (114.7 bb)
CO: $11.60 (116 bb)
BTN: $10 (100 bb)
Pre-Flop: Hero is BB with A♦ J♦
5 folds, BTN raises to $0.35, SB calls $0.30, Hero raises to $1.20, BTN folds, SB calls $0.85
Flop: ($2.75) K♣ Q♣ T♦ (2 players)
SB bets $2.75, Hero raises to $19.91 and is all-in, SB calls $4.45 and is all-in
Turn: ($17.15) 3♠ (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($17.15) 8♣ (2 players, 2 are all-in)
Results: $17.15 pot ($1.14 rake)
Hero showed A♦ J♦ (a straight, Ten to Ace) and won $16.01 ($7.61 net)
SB showed K♥ 6♥ (a pair of Kings) and lost (-$8.40 net)
PattyR
Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
I officially hate pattyr and coolnut, while theyre crushing 10nl i'm consistently getting my ass handed to me and all the while being berated by their graphs and hands lol
dont hate me today bud, down 5 BI, i got a nice graph you will love from todays session i just finished
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coolnout
Legend
Silver Level
I officially hate pattyr and coolnut, while theyre crushing 10nl i'm consistently getting my ass handed to me and all the while being berated by their graphs and hands lol
I'm not even close to crushing. Still down a buy-in. Would have finally been even with a slight profit from rakeback tho I keep running into tough spots with overpairs. Today was like first time I finally found a couple decent tables. So many of the tables are like nitfest rakeback grinders.
RoyalFish
Rock Star
Silver Level
Wes747
Visionary
Silver Level
I don't think there are any rakeback grinders at 10NL, lol. 4 tabling Rush at 25NL I make $5/hour on rakeback.
Jurn8
Legend
Silver Level
No Brainer
Losing keeps me sane
Silver Level
Who's checking this turn? and why?
Villian is 18/8 with 0.4 agg rating
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.05(BB) Replayer
SB ($8.01)
BB ($2.85)
UTG ($5)
UTG+1 ($6.02)
UTG+2 ($4.93)
Hero ($5)
MP2 ($6.26)
CO ($4.98)
BTN ($5.05)
Dealt to Hero T:club: T:spade:
fold, fold, UTG+2 raises to $0.20, Hero calls $0.20, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB calls $0.15
FLOP ($0.62) 2:heart: 3:heart: 5:club:
BB checks, UTG+2 bets $0.30, Hero raises to $1.20, BB folds, UTG+2 calls $0.90
TURN ($3.02) 2:heart: 3:heart: 5:club: 2:spade:
UTG+2 checks, Hero
Villian is 18/8 with 0.4 agg rating
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.05(BB) Replayer
SB ($8.01)
BB ($2.85)
UTG ($5)
UTG+1 ($6.02)
UTG+2 ($4.93)
Hero ($5)
MP2 ($6.26)
CO ($4.98)
BTN ($5.05)
Dealt to Hero T:club: T:spade:
fold, fold, UTG+2 raises to $0.20, Hero calls $0.20, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB calls $0.15
FLOP ($0.62) 2:heart: 3:heart: 5:club:
BB checks, UTG+2 bets $0.30, Hero raises to $1.20, BB folds, UTG+2 calls $0.90
TURN ($3.02) 2:heart: 3:heart: 5:club: 2:spade:
UTG+2 checks, Hero
thepokerkid123
Visionary
Silver Level
I don't check there.
Ax with FD being played badly or 66-99 that got scared but can't fold an overpair, or JJ+ that's going for a pointless c/r.
I actually think JJ/QQ are unlikely because I expect them to 3bet the flop often, and I also expect to see AK/AQ (without FD) occasionally here.
I shove.
Ax with FD being played badly or 66-99 that got scared but can't fold an overpair, or JJ+ that's going for a pointless c/r.
I actually think JJ/QQ are unlikely because I expect them to 3bet the flop often, and I also expect to see AK/AQ (without FD) occasionally here.
I shove.
D
Donkus Maximus
Enthusiast
Silver Level
Yeah...I'm all about the grind. Just ask Angleina Jolie- she'd know.
I assume there will be other prop bets on this forum about playing X number of hands so I will probably get in on it then. Feb was my first month of 10k+ volume so I need to see how I do in March. If I reach my 20K target, I'll make up a poem about the experience and post it here so you can get a buzz from my elegant lyrical stylings. In fact screw it, I'll go and write one now.
Tell me about this quare thing called 3 bet bluffing. I do it now and then at 6 max but I am big into the full ring as of late so I need to consider the adjustments.
When I do 3 bet bluff at 6 max, I do it if some of the following circumstances apply:
- if i have recently won an big pot with a big pair and I feel people are a little wary
- if someone is raising a bit too often (and showing down rubbish)
- if someone has an identifiable patter of raising from the button
- if its a suited connector that could flop a monster/monster draw.
I would be somewhat more wary at full ring but I'll take a few stabs to see how it works out this month.
Ok.....here it is...seriiously high-brow artistic stuff by ireland's official Microstakes Bard:
With coffee poured out and the players arrayed,
in the chill of the evening a game is being played,
where all of your moves are measured and weighed,
and a check on the flop is to set up a raid.
Cards fall and stacks rise, you miss then you hit,
On turn you are God- on the river you're shit,
but the graph keep rising-every day just a bit,
'cause thats how it goes when you play like a nit.
And when it's all over, we all meet online,
to butress our skills or to halt a decline,
or to sharpen our weapons- the bluff and set-mine-
for those who have cards but no plan or design
The the night falls again and the battle for stacks
grinds on into dawn through retreat and attack.
In the heat of 9 tables you can't turn your back:
there are fish to be fried and Aces to crack.
the lab man
CardsChat Irregular
Silver Level
Here's a hand I thought I was ahead
full tilt poker $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - View hand 567140
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter
MP1: $11.95
MP2: $10.13
CO: $10.43
BTN: $10.40
SB: $28.42
BB: $10.18
UTG: $16.54
UTG+1: $10.15
Hero (UTG+2): $14.35
Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is UTG+2 with K ♥ K ♠
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.55, 1 fold, MP2 raises to $1, 4 folds, Hero calls $0.45
Flop: ($2.15) 3 ♠ J ♠ A ♥ (2 players)
Hero bets $0.95, MP2 calls $0.95
Turn: ($4.05) K ♦ (2 players)
Hero bets $2.50, MP2 raises to $8.18 all in, Hero calls $5.68
River: ($20.41) 8 ♠ (2 players - 1 is all in)
Final Pot: $20.41
MP2 shows A ♣ A ♦ (three of a kind, Aces)
Hero shows K ♥ K ♠ (three of a kind, Kings)
MP2 wins $19.05
(Rake: $1.36)
full tilt poker $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - View hand 567140
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter
MP1: $11.95
MP2: $10.13
CO: $10.43
BTN: $10.40
SB: $28.42
BB: $10.18
UTG: $16.54
UTG+1: $10.15
Hero (UTG+2): $14.35
Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is UTG+2 with K ♥ K ♠
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.55, 1 fold, MP2 raises to $1, 4 folds, Hero calls $0.45
Flop: ($2.15) 3 ♠ J ♠ A ♥ (2 players)
Hero bets $0.95, MP2 calls $0.95
Turn: ($4.05) K ♦ (2 players)
Hero bets $2.50, MP2 raises to $8.18 all in, Hero calls $5.68
River: ($20.41) 8 ♠ (2 players - 1 is all in)
Final Pot: $20.41
MP2 shows A ♣ A ♦ (three of a kind, Aces)
Hero shows K ♥ K ♠ (three of a kind, Kings)
MP2 wins $19.05
(Rake: $1.36)
BelgoSuisse
Legend
Silver Level
either you think that villain is normal or loose and you should 4bet preflop, or you think he's a super nit and then you should check the flop. Flatting preflop and donking a Axx flop makes no sense whatsoever.
Obviously once you both have a set, playing for stacks is standard.
the lab man
CardsChat Irregular
Silver Level
I'm here to learn, I just couldn't get away from the mentality of OMG I got a set of Ks.
BelgoSuisse
Legend
Silver Level
You didn't read or understand my comment, and you're incredibly results oriented. You shouldn't get away from that "OMG I got a set" mentality. Your turn play is fine. The problem with your play is both preflop and on the flop.
the lab man
CardsChat Irregular
Silver Level
I did read your comments and did understand your comments and I did realize my mistakes pre flop and flop.
BelgoSuisse
Legend
Silver Level
What if villain plays any pair, but never Ax because AK is a drawing hand, and he doesn't have a fold button postflop?
WVHillbilly
Legend
Silver Level
I don't know such a villain but if I did I'd donk/donk/shove.
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