*** March Cash Game Thread ***

[RoyalFish]

Marknz88 plays what 10nl??? No one 3bets light much less 4bets light.

You might be surprised what people will 3 bet with at 10nl. Definitely the majority 3 bets decent hands, but there's some real crap in there as well.

RF

 

[WVHillbilly]

You might be surprised what people will 3 bet with at 10nl. Definitely the majority 3 bets decent hands, but there's some real crap in there as well.

RF

You're right what I meant was there are 2 kinds of 3bets at 10nl.

1) I have KK/AA
2) I have cards

Once you identify the people spewing and 3betting #2 you're not 4betting them light, you're just widening your value range for getting AI.

 

[No Brainer]

March goals

Play 25k+ hands
Beat this 5nl crap

 

[marknz88]

Well March is off to a disastrous start. Down 5 BI in two days.

This hand tilted me after already losing a previous stack to villain whos 29/29 with a cbet of 33. He had been 3betting aggressively and squeezing everybody at the table without showing down any hands.

poker stars $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 562446
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

SB: $5.18
BB: $5.20
UTG: $10.62
MP: $9.39
Hero (CO): $5.00
BTN: $10.97

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is CO with 8

8

UTG raises to $0.20, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.20, BTN raises to $0.85, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.65, Hero calls $0.65

Flop: ($2.62) 6

5

6

(3 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $1.35, UTG folds, Hero calls $1.35

Turn: ($5.32) 4

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $8.77 all in, Hero calls $2.80 all in

River: ($10.92) K

(2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $10.92
Hero shows 8

8

(two pair, Eights and Sixes)
BTN shows A

K

(two pair, Kings and Sixes)
BTN wins $10.42
(Rake: $0.50)

Twice he rivered me to take down the pot, the first time my AK didn't hold up >_<

 

[thepokerkid123]

Goals for march: try not to suck as much as I did in Feb. Same goals as I had at the start of feb really, I want to be playing $50nl by the end of the month except I'll add to it that I want to be putting in decent volume this month. 15k hands per week minimum (I think I may have averaged 1/3 of that last month).

First area of discussion for the month, button 3-betting.

I'd like some of you to list your typical 3-betting range on the button vs. an aggressive CO raiser.

How does your range change when he has a high Fold to 3-bet? Low?

Also, please post WHY you're 3-betting the hands you're 3-betting.

My range? No idea, next question please.

If he has a high fold to 3bet: Eh, not really relying on that stat. If he's openning a lot wider in the CO than elsewhere (i.e. he's raising light) and isn't playing back at me (4betting or calling) I'll be raising really wide.
22+, 45s+, 67o+, Axs.
Obviously changes if I expect calls from the blinds.
This CO player will very quickly either turn into a nit or leave the table, if he doesn't adjust then I'm never, ever, leaving the table. If my home is burning down around me, I might think about leaving the table, maybe.

Low fold to 3bet? 99+/AQ+, I'm open to raising wider than that though depending on how wide his raising range is and how little he folds to 3bets. To be honest, I kind of suck really badly in this spot because I'm not sure what range I should be just calling with because stuff like 67s I still want to play because his range is weak and I've got position but I have little fold equity and wtf do I do post-flop? Generally this guy isn't someone you want to bluff and floating generally sucks against them too. Now lets say I catch my pair of 7's, what now? I probably almost always float but what if he bets the pot with a range that's at least a little balanced?
I know this is about 3betting, not calling, but I'm not sure where each range starts and ends. Suffice to say that I'm generally 3betting a wide value range.

 

[Kasanova King]

My goal for March is to get to 25NL and profit. Currently I'm about 15 buy ins at 10NL away from being properly rolled for 25NL.

Good luck to all!

 

[PattyR]

My goal for March is to get to 25NL and profit. Currently I'm about 15 buy ins at 10NL away from being properly rolled for 25NL.

Good luck to all!

very nice..currently im about 9 - 10 BI away from being properly rolled for 25NL

 

[c9h13no3]

I feel like CC has been reset. I remember when all the guys like Chuck & Zach were playing micro stakes, and we all had really bad ideas about poker. Now a new round of players has stepped into that vacuum that those players have left behind. And they're complete with all the bad ideas that come with being new.

Some of the faces here are the same, obviously. But a lot of those guys have grown tired of explaining things, and are just content to do their usual posting.

Not sure why I'm posting that, just felt like saying it. Good luck to the new generation, and be sure to use your resources.

 

[cAPSLOCK]

I am sure it is a strange feeling. CC has changed a lot even since I first came... Some of the old guard has faded. And the new kids get to make their way up.

I don't belong in either camp. To tell the truth I am not sure what I hang around for at all.

Comic relief I suppose.

 

[thepokerkid123]

Now a new round of players has stepped into that vacuum that those players have left behind. And they're complete with all the bad ideas that come with being new.

Good luck to the new generation, and be sure to use your resources.

Will do.

 

[Jurn8]

March Mo Fo Cash Game Thread

sigh

GL dudes, 2010 can start now please!!!!!!!!

 

[bubonicplay]

Decrease our value range and widen our bluff range.
we can start bluffing him more(eg 3betting complete junk, or some small PPs/SCs for the extra litle equity).
Might flatt AA/KK sometimes asuming he is aggro postflop.


I open my value range alot, to like 77+,AJ+,KQ since he is gonna be flatting OOP.
Might also increase my bluff range aswell if villain plays pretty straight forward fit/fold postflop since if he does that we can just 3bet atc, cbet, profit.

Against a good player this doesn't work. Having a wider value range allows you to have a wider bluff range. If you're not even 3-betting AA/KK they're going to have a field day 4-betting you and you're just gonna get owned because you're 3-bet/folding way too much.

 

[Jurn8]

First area of discussion for the month, button 3-betting.

I'd like some of you to list your typical 3-betting range on the button vs. an aggressive CO raiser.

How does your range change when he has a high Fold to 3-bet? Low?

Also, please post WHY you're 3-betting the hands you're 3-betting.

High Fold 3bet - Axs, shit like 46s,58s,J8s,75s, as bluffs and value range of QQ+ AK,
Low Fold 3bet - 10s+ AK, maybe AQs, depends how he plays post and is his low fold to 3bet because he is 4betting or does he call OOP and c/f flop when misses? Axs still for a bluff range but that depends on the previous statement.

I 3bet those hands vs a high fold to 3bet because they are hands which aren't good enough to call therfore we are turning them into a bluff however we can flop some pretty good equity with lots of SD's + FD's. Vs a high fold to 3bettor I widen my bluffing range and tighten my value range since his playback range is very strong.
A low fold to 3bettor we want to reverse so I widen my value range and tighten my bluffing range but I like to change this dependent on postflop style like do they just c/f if they miss (alot will). So we are prepared to put more money in with 10s/JJ because villians calling range is alot weaker than the high folder.

 

[Jurn8]

release dates for my micro grinder series!

https://www.cardschat.com/f53/jurn8s-micro-grinders-video-series-171699/#post1420813

Also I still need some dudes who want a video review to make me a 30 minute video for me!

I need a 2nl, 5nl, 25nl and 50nl video! Should be fun to improve my analysis and coaching and hopefully improve your dudes games aswell!

 

[No Brainer]

Ill send ya a video of 5NL if ya want. You just want something like me playing 4 tables for 30 minutes?

 

[No Brainer]

I feel like CC has been reset. I remember when all the guys like Chuck & Zach were playing micro stakes, and we all had really bad ideas about poker. Now a new round of players has stepped into that vacuum that those players have left behind. And they're complete with all the bad ideas that come with being new.

Some of the faces here are the same, obviously. But a lot of those guys have grown tired of explaining things, and are just content to do their usual posting.

Not sure why I'm posting that, just felt like saying it. Good luck to the new generation, and be sure to use your resources.

Im glad to be here now, considering where some of the "older generation of CC" are at.

 

[Jurn8]

Ill send ya a video of 5NL if ya want. You just want something like me playing 4 tables for 30 minutes?

yeah if thats cool man!

Ill book you in the thread!

Thanks dude

 

[orangepeeleo]

Blog update, feb results, march goals!

 

[S93]

Against a good player this doesn't work. Having a wider value range allows you to have a wider bluff range. If you're not even 3-betting AA/KK they're going to have a field day 4-betting you and you're just gonna get owned because you're 3-bet/folding way too much.

Good thing i play micro stakes and dont run into good players very often then.

I also didnt say i would flatt AA/KK every time, i said some of the time asuming he is spewy postflop(or i have a frequent squezer in the blinds).
Only really remember a handfull of hands where i flat AA/KK.
I also think its pretty useless to worry about villain exploiting us when a vast majority of villains dont adjust to anything, especialy at low stakes...

 

[LuckyChippy]

Thanks to WV's generosity I had $1.50 on PS to play with, hey maybe i'll get lucky....maybe not....

Hands are right after each other lmao.

Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 562828
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

BTN: $1.27
Hero (SB): $1.54
BB: $5.00
UTG: $0.91
MP: $1.17
CO: $2.02

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is SB with Q :club: Q :spade:
1 fold, MP calls $0.02, CO calls $0.02, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.12, 1 fold, MP calls $0.10, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.28) Q :heart: 4 :diamond: 6 :diamond: (2 players)
Hero bets $0.20, MP raises to $1.05 all in, Hero calls $0.85

Turn: ($2.38) 5 :diamond: (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($2.38) K :heart: (2 players - 1 is all in)

Then....

Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 562831
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

CO: $1.27
Hero (BTN): $0.37
SB: $4.98
BB: $0.91
UTG: $2.28
MP: $2.00

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BTN with A :heart: A :spade:
UTG raises to $2.28 all in, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.37 all in, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.77) T :spade: 5 :spade: 4 :diamond: (2 players - 2 are all in)

Turn: ($0.77) Q :diamond: (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($0.77) 8 :club: (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $0.77
Hero shows A :heart: A :spade: (a pair of Aces)
UTG shows A :club: K :heart: (high card Ace)
Hero wins $0.77


The second pissed me off more tbh...

EDIT: I just noticed hand 1 has no history, Qd8d obviously.

 

[LuckyChippy]

And now i'm broke, sigh, back to FT.

 

[WVHillbilly]

Stars is rigged.

 

[LuckyChippy]

Damn straight.

 

[Marginal]

FTP is more rigged.

 

[LuckyChippy]

Your face is rigged, just like PS.