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[LuckyChippy]

Thats good that you booked a win. Image to expand.

 

[Marginal]

You want moar?

 

[WVHillbilly]

Stat check.

What is your BB/100 (note BB not bb) in hands where you 3bet.

Please specify FR or 6-max, overall 3bet%, and your overall sample size please.


For reference mine for FR, 5% 3bet, 410K hands is 136BB/100. I really don't think mine is great and I'm hoping to confirm that with help from a few of you.

Thanks.

 

[NineLions]

Stat check.

What is your BB/100 (note BB not bb) in hands where you 3bet.

Please specify FR or 6-max, overall 3bet%, and your overall sample size please.


For reference mine for FR, 5% 3bet, 410K hands is 136BB/100. I really don't think mine is great and I'm hoping to confirm that with help from a few of you.

Thanks.

Mine is not much to work with, but in 100,000 hands in the current database, 3 bet 2.9%, almost exclusively FR, 466 bb so 233 BB/100, but this is anywhere from $10nl to $100nl, most of it at $25nl FR.

 

[absoluthamm]

Mine so far this year is out of 30k hands. 3-Bet = ~5% and BB/100 is 125.

My complete DB(last 3 years) shows that I was 3Betting 4% of the time and my BB/100 was 418.13(yes BB/100, bb/100 was 836.26). So you can see that in the past, I was ONLY 3betting with the nuts I guess. Closed that one up a bit. lol

 

[Jagsti]

Having a wtsd % of less than 22% and w$sd of less than 40% over the last 15k hands = not much fun!

 

[slycbnew]

Having a wtsd % of less than 22% and w$sd of less than 40% over the last 15k hands = not much fun!

You know how they say "you'll run worse at some point than you ever imagined possible"?

Yeccchhhh, here's to a quick turnaround :beer:

 

[WVHillbilly]

Mine is not much to work with, but in 100,000 hands in the current database, 3 bet 2.9%, almost exclusively FR, 466 bb so 233 BB/100, but this is anywhere from $10nl to $100nl, most of it at $25nl FR.

Mine so far this year is out of 30k hands. 3-Bet = ~5% and BB/100 is 125.

My complete DB(last 3 years) shows that I was 3Betting 4% of the time and my BB/100 was 418.13(yes BB/100, bb/100 was 836.26). So you can see that in the past, I was ONLY 3betting with the nuts I guess. Closed that one up a bit. lol

Thanks guys. Need more please. Also I'm assuming you guys filters were set for when you 3bet PREFLOP right? I didn't say that in my original request but that's what I meant. Damn it people, learn to read my mind.

absolute, that's a sick WR in 3bet pots.

 

[absoluthamm]

Yea WV, mine was preflop. And yea, was a pretty sick WR, but I used to be pretty stuck on only 3Betting premiums. Only 5% of my 3Bets didn't contain a broadway card. It was working out for me, but I was definitely missing a lot of possibilities.

 

[SPCotter]

I 3b 6.6% with a BB/100 of 123 in 6 max over 60k hands

 

[LuckyChippy]

Can anyone figure math for money made from folding vs having a super strong range and sick (sick) winrates?

5/6% seem to hover between 100-200BB/100 compared to absolut's 400BB/100.

I'm assuming the former is better for the winrate.

 

[Jagsti]

Stat check.

What is your BB/100 (note BB not bb) in hands where you 3bet.

Please specify FR or 6-max, overall 3bet%, and your overall sample size please.


For reference mine for FR, 5% 3bet, 410K hands is 136BB/100. I really don't think mine is great and I'm hoping to confirm that with help from a few of you.
Thanks.

Ok, stats taken from this year only (caveat: Take these stats with a pinch of salt as I have run like dog shit all year and played considerably worse )

6max:

3b% = 5.4

159BB/100

284k hands

FR:

3b% = 3.5

177BB/100

208k hands

 

[LuckyChippy]

500k hands this year makes me lol. Sick volume. When did you give up on the SE challenge? what have you been averaging a month after it?

 

[Skaplun]

10nl


not a bad day

 

[Jagsti]

500k hands this year makes me lol. Sick volume. When did you give up on the SE challenge? what have you been averaging a month after it?

Err thin I gave it up early March. I try to play at least 50k hands per month, last month I got 100k in I think.

 

[slycbnew]

Anyone know whether it's possible to sort sessions in HEM by avg hands/hr?

 

[ComplexPlaya]

So my 3bet WE is 99BB/100 only, guess I suck in that department also! Oh well, I probably knew that!

Here are my sick graphs from HU today, first one is for 10NL second for 20NL while a little tilted

 

[Jillychemung]

Stat check.

What is your BB/100 (note BB not bb) in hands where you 3bet.

FR 6127 hands 1.3% 3-bet preflop (80 times) 198.60 BB/100

 

[No Brainer]

Full ring 75k hands, 5.3% 3 bet with a win rate of 161BB/100

In other news I played a couple thousand hands of rush today and got smashed pretty bad. What was funny though was I had AKs 11 times, the first 6 were AK of spades and the last 5 were all AK of diamonds... pretty weird huh?

Oh and how come whenever I slow play someone they never improve and put their whole stack in??

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.05(BB) Replayer
SB ($4.09)
BB ($4.96)
UTG ($3.96)
UTG+1 ($5)
UTG+2 ($5.26)
Hero ($8.33)
MP2 ($16.59)
CO ($1.32)
BTN ($5.02)

Dealt to Hero K♠ A♠

fold, UTG+1 calls $0.05, fold, Hero raises to $0.25, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG+1 calls $0.20

FLOP ($0.57) 4♠ Q♦ Q♠

UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $0.43, UTG+1 calls $0.43

TURN ($1.43) 4♠ Q♦ Q♠ 7♣

UTG+1 checks, Hero checks

RIVER ($1.43) 4♠ Q♦ Q♠ 7♣ 9♠

UTG+1 bets $1, Hero raises to $2.50, UTG+1 raises to $4.32 (AI), Hero calls $1.82

UTG+1 shows 4♦ 4♣
(Pre 50%, Flop 98.0%, Turn 100.0%)

Hero shows K♠ A♠
(Pre 50%, Flop 2.0%, Turn 0.0%)

UTG+1 wins $9.40

 

[Stu_Ungar]

I would have barrelled the turn but I really dont like your bet size on the river.

When you raise him, you have no intention of ever folding to any bet.

He is never bluff shoving here.

He is never raising the bottom of his range (QT type hands once the flush hits)

So ON AVERAGE you are losing bigger pots than you win with strong hands.

Just shove.

If he has a smaller flush he calls.

If he has a queen he hits the time button and eventually calls.

If he has you beat he also calls.

He may even make a hero call with TT or JJ thinking that the shove is just so bluffy.

You really dont get all that many folds by shoving rather than betting and there is absolutely no chance he ever bluffs that board for that amount.

 

[SPCotter]

I now have 20 buy ins for (€) NL50! Have never seen such a size (I did have 1k in $ on FT at about this point last year playing SnGs). I'm running just over 4bb/100 (+rb obv) for the year with over 60000 hands now, 30k from this month alone, and I've only been playing NL20 regularly this month, in which has seen my roll double. 30k was my original hand target for the month, not sure I'll hit the revised 60k, but none the less... I'll also get an extra €100 if I generate €1000 in rake this month (which I am on course to achieve). It's pretty sick to think in two weeks I might be playing NL50.

Just thoroughly pleased with my mentality and game atm. I've only had one session where I've tilted this month (and that was the first in a long while), which was near the beginning, and was more down to my connection than my or my opponents play lol . I am pretty intimidated at going to NL50, I dunno how it will play at a eurosite, I assume much nittier than NL20 given what you read about NL50 here and on other forums based on FT and PS.

 

[PattyR]

IN

FML

 

[absoluthamm]

Right there with ya Patty. Down all but first 3 days of the month. Every night I will run up a good stack then seem to get stacked within two minutes. Has nothing to do with too long of a session because I have actually been playing shorter sessions that usual this month. Just getting it in with the best and getting screwed by the end. If I flop one more straight with a flush draw, get it in against a set and lose to a boat by the river, I might blow my damn head off. EVERY TIME THE DAMN BOARD PAIRS!!! 10 times so far this month the same situation!

Edit: I might stop playing rush, no way to get it in good and win. At least not in June...

 

[GunslingerZ]

Stat check.

What is your BB/100 (note BB not bb) in hands where you 3bet.

Please specify FR or 6-max, overall 3bet%, and your overall sample size please.


For reference mine for FR, 5% 3bet, 410K hands is 136BB/100. I really don't think mine is great and I'm hoping to confirm that with help from a few of you.

Thanks.

Hey WV. My current database has only 78K hands, all FR, over 3B is 3.2%, my winrate is 334BB/100.

 

[ComplexPlaya]

I now have 20 buy ins for (€) NL50! Have never seen such a size (I did have 1k in $ on FT at about this point last year playing SnGs). I'm running just over 4bb/100 (+rb obv) for the year with over 60000 hands now, 30k from this month alone, and I've only been playing NL20 regularly this month, in which has seen my roll double. 30k was my original hand target for the month, not sure I'll hit the revised 60k, but none the less... I'll also get an extra €100 if I generate €1000 in rake this month (which I am on course to achieve). It's pretty sick to think in two weeks I might be playing NL50.

Just thoroughly pleased with my mentality and game atm. I've only had one session where I've tilted this month (and that was the first in a long while), which was near the beginning, and was more down to my connection than my or my opponents play lol . I am pretty intimidated at going to NL50, I dunno how it will play at a eurosite, I assume much nittier than NL20 given what you read about NL50 here and on other forums based on FT and PS.

Congrats man, well done! Hope I'll see you there once I'm done tilting lol