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[Pascal-lf]

full tilt poker $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 737889
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CO: $10.43
BTN: $2.16
SB: $7.82
Hero (BB): $14.21
UTG: $4.86

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BB with 5 :diamond: 5 :heart:
1 fold, CO raises to $0.17, BTN calls $0.17, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.12

Flop: ($0.53) 6 :spade: 5 :club: 7 :club: (3 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $0.46, BTN raises to $0.92, Hero calls $0.92, CO calls $0.46

Turn: ($3.29) A :club: (3 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $1.48, BTN folds, Hero calls $1.48

River: ($6.25) 6 :club: (2 players)
Hero bets $11.64 all in, CO calls $7.86 all in

Final Pot: $21.97
CO shows 6 :diamond: A :diamond: (a full house, Sixes full of Aces)
Hero shows 5 :diamond: 5 :heart: (a full house, Fives full of Sixes)
CO wins $20.51
(Rake: $1.46)


V was betting hard into draws so figured peeling was best shout, didn't expect the higher FH though

 

[Pascal-lf]

Day of the hero calls:

Day of the hero calls for me

Full Tilt Poker $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 738861
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CO: $8.19
BTN: $5.00
SB: $4.84
Hero (BB): $5.70
UTG: $8.08

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BB with 6 6
2 folds, BTN raises to $0.17, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.12

Flop: ($0.36) 7 2 Q (2 players)
Hero bets $0.36, BTN calls $0.36

Turn: ($1.08) J (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $1, Hero calls $1

River: ($3.08) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $3.47 all in, Hero calls $3.47

Final Pot: $10.02
BTN shows A K (Ace King high)
Hero shows 6 6 (a pair of Sixes)
Hero wins $9.36
(Rake: $0.66)


Full Tilt Poker $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 738863
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BB: $2.16
UTG: $10.61
MP: $4.38
CO: $4.21
BTN: $6.74
Hero (SB): $6.47

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is SB with K A
UTG raises to $0.17, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.56, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.39

Flop: ($1.17) J 5 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50

Turn: ($2.17) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $1, Hero calls $1

River: ($4.17) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks

Final Pot: $4.17
UTG shows A Q (Ace Queen high)
Hero shows K A (Ace King high)
Hero wins $3.90
(Rake: $0.27)


Full Tilt Poker $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 738864
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CO: $5.07
BTN: $5.00
Hero (SB): $5.00
BB: $11.88
UTG: $14.29

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is SB with K :diamond: K :spade:
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.35, BB calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.70) 9 :heart: A :club: 7 :diamond: (2 players)
Hero bets $0.70, BB calls $0.70

Turn: ($2.10) T :club: (2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks

River: ($2.10) 3 :club: (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $1.25, Hero calls $1.25

Final Pot: $4.60
Hero shows K :diamond: K :spade: (a pair of Kings)
BB shows K :heart: J :heart: (Ace King high)
Hero wins $4.30
(Rake: $0.30)


Was new to the table which was the reason for the big raise, decided to see if it would throw people at all. After I made the call he sarcastically said that he was sure the call was +ev, I said I was sure that bluffing the river with K high was +ev and he didn't say anything after that

On a side note, keep running into higher flushes - 3 today! One of them flopped too, that hurt

 

[Pascal-lf]

And another one against a major fish:

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.05(BB) Full Tilt
SB ($14.20)
BB ($8.20)
UTG ($5.27)
UTG+1 ($9.35)
Hero ($6.79)
BTN ($5.60)

Dealt to Hero 2:diamond: A:diamond:

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.17, BTN calls $0.17, fold, fold

FLOP ($0.41) 8:diamond: K:spade: 8:club:

Hero bets $0.28, BTN calls $0.28

TURN ($0.97) 8:diamond: K:spade: 8:club: 4:diamond:

Hero bets $0.65, BTN calls $0.65

RIVER ($2.27) 8:diamond: K:spade: 8:club: 4:diamond: K:club:

Hero checks, BTN bets $2, Hero calls $2

Hero shows 2:diamond: A:diamond:
(Pre 59%, Flop 78.0%, Turn 86.4%)

BTN shows 3:diamond: 5:diamond:
(Pre 41%, Flop 22.0%, Turn 13.6%)

Hero wins $5.86

I like fishes - neat feature of HEM too, bought it today

 

[Marginal]

Seriously the only kind of hero call is when you make it with J high.

 

[Pascal-lf]

 

[Marginal]

I'll show you a hand later where I hero called with Q high in PLO.

 

[SPCotter]

Hmmm... going to revise my target for the month - 60000 hands now, I've already played 11000 . Summer job not starting for another 2 weeks, time to grind!

Before June I'd only played 30000 hands so far this year, hopefully when I get my exam results in a week I won't have any resits to do, I'm done with studying I wanna play poker lol

 

[Marginal]

Hmmm... going to revise my target for the month - 60000 hands now, I've already played 11000 . Summer job not starting for another 2 weeks, time to grind!

Before June I'd only played 30000 hands so far this year, hopefully when I get my exam results in a week I won't have any resits to do, I'm done with studying I wanna play poker lol

I hear ya, No more exams for 6 more months so I really need to get some grinding going on. Only really have 3 months though cause work starts in September but still need to grind.

 

[ComplexPlaya]

*SIGH*

I can't bloody win! Last ok winning session was a month ago rofl. So after a break-even may, starting with a losing June, yay me!

I wonder if the reason is that I play too long session? I was crushing 20NL in April playing 2 hour sessions, 2 sessions/day, now that i play 4 hour session I'm losing...anything like that happened to you guys before?

Here's my usual swingy graph for the day!

 

[LuckyChippy]

Definitely try shorter sessions. For 99% of people playing for 4 hours is -EV. Your brain starts getting fuzzy, poker when you're doing it right should be mentally tiring.

Try Going back to your 2 hour sessions. You may even want to try hour long sessions to really try and keep sharp but if you feel comfortable at 2 hours then stay there. Grinding I've heard is exactly like building muscle. You don't go out and try and lift something you can't lift. You do something you can manage but tests you. Then you get stronger and eventually you'll breeze thorugh 2+ hours. Doubling your session time is a sure fire way of losing money though.

 

[SPCotter]

Ya, me and CP had this conversation before, I always try to jump ship when I start to notice my concentration fade, although I am slowly putting in 3-4 hour sessions myself successfully, but charged up on Coffee, well fed and well flushed beforehand!

Anyhoo, yesterday I ran 6 buy ins below EV. Today, well... I think the holy man has greeted me personally! I am actually the son of god! Definitely no whinging allowed at the very least until the end of the month

Personal highlights

AK > AA
KK > AA
AA > K8 with chips in on the turn, I 3b in position pre, donk calls out of position, flats the 89x flop, K turn, chips go in, river 9 to pair the board for a higher two pair!

 

[absoluthamm]

Down 3 buy-ins for the month after today. All in 3 times for 100+BB stacks with best hand only to lose to the river. Never had worse than top 2 pair, just getting drawn out on. All in EV is about break even due to a couple bad moves I made earlier in the month that I got lucky with that started out -EV. Hopefully as the month goes on, it will turn around, been playing nearly all of it at Rush, and it's fun, just hasn't been working for me the last 2 days.

 

[eNTy]

u made 26 buy ins or more in 3 and a half hours ?
that is pretty ridiculously sick

 

[SPCotter]

Nooo, even though HEM supports € It still gets confused on the session screen, and the conversion is a little out, I'm up €185 for the session, also only 51 of the hands were in NL10. Even so pretty happy with 9 buy ins in 3 and a half hours

 

[LuckyChippy]

Lol I kinda wish it was 26 buy-ins haha, that would be so sick. Well I'm down somewhere between 10 and 20 buy-ins this month, but that's cause I suck.

 

[Marginal]

I think WV would agree with me that if those babies were not attacking hat, he would have left them alone. Purely self defense.

 

[WVHillbilly]

I think WV would agree with me that if those babies were not attacking hat, he would have left them alone. Purely self defense.

QFMFT

 

[absoluthamm]

Attempted Hero Call? Not sure what else he could have though I had that he could beat besides two missed broadway cards. He even took the full time and tanked before the call on this. Cracked me up.

Full Tilt Poker $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
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MP2: $3.49
Hero (CO): $10.07
BTN: $5.00
SB: $1.63
BB: $6.38
UTG: $2.49
UTG+1: $6.27
UTG+2: $1.92
MP1: $2.26

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is CO with T:spade: T:diamond:
5 folds, Hero raises to $0.17, 1 fold, SB calls $0.15, BB calls $0.12

Flop: ($0.51) 6:heart: 4:club: 7:spade: (3 players)
SB bets $0.05, BB folds, Hero raises to $0.45, SB calls $0.40

Turn: ($1.41) 9:club: (2 players)
SB bets $0.12, Hero raises to $1.10, SB requests TIME, SB calls $0.89 all in

River: ($3.43) 4:spade: (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $3.43
Hero shows T:spade: T:diamond: (two pair, Tens and Fours)
SB shows 2:spade: A:diamond: (a pair of Fours)
Hero wins $3.21
(Rake: $0.22)

 

[Suited Frenzy]

The open limp re-raise OOP must've scared this guy &/or he min-raised w/ total ish. I realize this is only 10NL but I still don't understand why some players do what they do

Only way to play mid pkt prs in EP imo :top:

Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
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CO: $10.00
BTN: $3.81
SB: $5.42
BB: $8.40
UTG: $7.75
Hero (UTG+1): $10.97
UTG+2: $11.09
MP1: $11.37
MP2: $22.15

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is UTG+1 with 8:club: 8:spade:
1 fold, Hero calls $0.10, 1 fold, MP1 raises to $0.20, 5 folds, Hero raises to $0.60, MP1 calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.35) 7:diamond: 6:diamond: A:spade: (2 players)
Hero bets $0.90, MP1 folds

Final Pot: $1.35
Hero wins $1.26
(Rake: $0.09)

 

[WVHillbilly]

Do you ever do that with AA? AK? QQ?

Seems really bad imo.

 

[slycbnew]

Key ideas I forgot over the last few months:

1. Let other players make mistakes.
2. Value bet fish w TP or better.
3. Don't pay off fish.
4. If bluff catching, determine whether Villain is at all capable of running a bluff before making a hero call.
5. Value betting >>> bluff catching.

 

[F Paulsson]

Key ideas I forgot over the last few months:

1. Let other players make mistakes.
2. Value bet fish w TP or better.
3. Don't pay off fish.
4. If bluff catching, determine whether Villain is at all capable of running a bluff before making a hero call.
5. Value betting >>> bluff catching.

I wrote a blog post recently about that very phenomenon.

 

[slycbnew]

Excellent blog post, exactly, yup, right on the money. I realized that I was forgetting these basic ideas while watching a BalugaWhale vid series on DC ("Coaching Kristy", excellent, won't directly translate to everyone's game per se cuz he's so incredibly loose, but hammers these points home) - I get so caught up in adding "new" ideas/tactics that I don't rehearse stuff I already "know" nearly enough.

 

[Slow Roll Poker]

Played a few cash games yesterday, won about $8 total. Not much but it still put my bankroll from $70-$78. Would have been $93 but I gave $15 to someone.

 

[workinonit]

The open limp re-raise OOP must've scared this guy &/or he min-raised w/ total ish. I realize this is only 10NL but I still don't understand why some players do what they do

Only way to play mid pkt prs in EP imo :top:

Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
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CO: $10.00
BTN: $3.81
SB: $5.42
BB: $8.40
UTG: $7.75
Hero (UTG+1): $10.97
UTG+2: $11.09
MP1: $11.37
MP2: $22.15

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is UTG+1 with 8♣ 8♠
1 fold, Hero calls $0.10, 1 fold, MP1 raises to $0.20, 5 folds, Hero raises to $0.60, MP1 calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.35) 7♦ 6♦ A♠ (2 players)
Hero bets $0.90, MP1 folds

Final Pot: $1.35
Hero wins $1.26
(Rake: $0.09)

Do you ever do that with AA? AK? QQ?

Seems really bad imo.

Yeah I'm realllyy not fond of this hand.