***April Cash Game Thread***

blankoblanco

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wasn't saying i like 3betting QJ-type hands, i don't at all, i'm just saying there are occasional situations where it could still be a profitable squeeze or plain ol 3bet in that situation, just due to how many folds you get either pre or on the flop (and fwiw in a squeeze scenario if someone who initially called behind calls you again, they have small and mid pairs relatively often, which QJ does well against).

i just think it's even less likely that i'm going to be calling from the blind vs an EP/MP open with QJ, so i didn't really agree with the statement that 3betting with dominated hands is necessarily "worse" than calling with them
 
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oh yeah wasn't disagreeing with you blanko especially since there are spots you can squeeze with a napkin and an uno card and show a profit and having blockers against QQ/JJ is just icing on the cake.
 
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Feck, heater has been switched off, -2BI tonight, but -7BI below EV. With my increasing experience online volume wise really feel my mental control is improving a shedload, it's been a while since I really tilted in a session - honestly :)
 
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wasn't saying i like 3betting QJ-type hands, i don't at all, i'm just saying there are occasional situations where it could still be a profitable squeeze or plain ol 3bet in that situation, just due to how many folds you get either pre or on the flop (and fwiw in a squeeze scenario if someone who initially called behind calls you again, they have small and mid pairs relatively often, which QJ does well against).

i just think it's even less likely that i'm going to be calling from the blind vs an EP/MP open with QJ, so i didn't really agree with the statement that 3betting with dominated hands is necessarily "worse" than calling with them

Nah I didnt mean 3betting them was worse than calling them vs an EP/MP open, didnt see that in there thought we were talking about squeezing/3betting BTN/Blinds.

Calling them OOP to an EP/MP is absolutely terrible as a TAG range just crushes us.
 
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i have played barely any online poker at all this month
someone help meeeeeeeeee

you're crushing live, so don't try to make us feel sorry for you...
 
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PLO people, how often are you 3 betting from the bb after a sb open?

Nowhere near enough, I'm sure - mostly bigger wraps and bigger pairs. What kind of range are you using against someone who opens sb 20%?
 
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Jesus has anyone here ventured into the tourney section on this site? I'm tilting soooooooo hard omg like I'm the only one arguing that getting all-in early on in a tourney 4-ways with like 40% equity is a good thing are people really that brain dead? I mean omg you might get knocked out of the tourney hiaosdghioasdhoishoiashiohihiaohaoisdhsagdhsxbzchy8947tw2897849325y89hszdgnklbnasjgdhjkszdgsgdz

https://www.cardschat.com/forum/tournament-hand-analysis-51/2-nl-he-rebuy-quadruple-all-173845/


Can you explain to everyone how you knew you had 40% equity in this pot with ak off against 2 all-in bets in front of you?Your logic only works after you know everyones cards.


Snow :cool:
 
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he didn't say he knew he had 40% equity. but one might come up with this figure the same way one determines if any shove is a call, by trying to give your opponents a range and estimating your equity against that range

the thing is there are a lot of people in that thread who are saying, even knowing what the hands were, they still would have folded. that if they did know they had 40% equity in a 4way all-in, they would want to fold simply because they're going to lose the majority of the time. i think he was largely addressing that. and folding in a situation like that is not a good idea
 
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i just got my first $50 stellar reward bonus on pstars!!!!! woohoo!!!! wonder if illl play enough hands to get at least one $100 bonus..probably not
 
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Nowhere near enough, I'm sure - mostly bigger wraps and bigger pairs. What kind of range are you using against someone who opens sb 20%?
As long as they don't adjust all, which most of them do not do, I am 3 betting close to 30% of hands here just for the positional advantage and the knowledge that I can outplay sb postflop. I don't ever expect him to fold preflop but I can take it down on most flops.
 
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Can you explain to everyone how you knew you had 40% Equity in this pot with ak off against 2 all-in bets in front of you?Your logic only works after you know everyones cards.


Snow :cool:

This is the hand right ?

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A
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1 fold, UTG+1 bets t350, 1 fold, MP2 raises to t5730 (All-In), Hero ??

Its a raise and an over-shove. Its a snap call, without the fistpump. Ill have a look at the thread later on.
 
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Everyone, whose poker knowledge I respect, is saying to shove.
 
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But your tourney life is on the line!!!!!!!
 
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dollars is even worse cus its just numbers on a screen
doesnt mean shit anymore

at least when i drop 700 euros it feels a lil bit like real money, even though lately dropping 700 doesnt really feel bad anymore cus its just 3 bi live, but since i have no expenses aside from beer and other fun stuff theres no real sense of 'oh shit i just lost food for a month' or something like that
 
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Just innocently trying to get my 5 FTP take 2 points...

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP ($4.86)
CO ($2.22)
Button ($10.42)
SB ($4.01)
BB ($1.43)
hERO (UTG) ($5.02)

Preflop: hERO is UTG with A
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, 10
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hERO bets $0.15, 1 fold, CO calls $0.15, 3 folds

Flop: ($0.37) Q
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, K
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, J
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(2 players)
hERO checks, CO checks

Turn: ($0.37) 7
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(2 players)
hERO bets $0.10, 1 fold

Total pot: $0.37 | Rake: $0.02

Results:
hERO didn't show A
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, 10
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Outcome: hERO won $0.35
 
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I'm sure he calls a shove there.
 
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It was either that or minbet. I never pick right.
 
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full tilt poker $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 629222
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

Hero (BTN): $67.70
SB: $45.30
BB: $37.55
UTG: $51.00
CO: $50.00

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with T :club: A :club:
2 folds, Hero raises to $1.75, 1 fold, BB calls $1.25

Flop: ($3.75) K :club: A :heart: 5 :heart: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.25, BB calls $2.25

Turn: ($8.25) T :spade: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4.75, BB calls $4.75

River: ($17.75) J :club: (2 players)
BB bets $21.25, Hero requests TIME, Hero calls $21.25

Final Pot: $60.25
Hero shows T :club: A :club: (two pair, Aces and Tens)
BB shows 3 :club: 2 :diamond: (Ace King high)
Hero wins $57.25
(Rake: $3.00)


Thought about folding but figured he never overbets a Q without shoving. The nut low was not what I was expecting. Glad I got his $$ when I did. He lost the rest the following hand and disappeared into the interwebs until he redeposits.
 
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[x] Successfully put someone on tilt today.
 
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Nothing special, I had him beat, you got to nut peddle at 10PLO or the rake will just kill you. Luckily it works on people who love their top pair.
 
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