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Well played or misplayed?

So, I'm taking a more aggro approach to my MTTs. I'm not afraid to put my big stack to use and force other stacks into a decision, but at the same time I am risking a lot of my stack in risk vs reward situation. It's very selective aggression as well. I find that with this approach, not only am I running deep in MTTs, but I'm sitting on much healthier stacks then in previous MTTs.

Here is a hand that I played and Im wondering if maybe my aggression is too much?

Do you:
A) Shove for max value here, but risk a +/- of 7K in your stack. Also risk opponent folding a you lose ton of value.
B) Play it safe with a raise and lose min. if flush hits and you slow down.
C) Play it safe with a raise and win small pot but lose out on extra 2K-3K.

Hmmmmmm...after typing it out, it seems like B/C might be the right approach. If I have to fold, I still have a healthy stack. And I win, losing out on 2K-3K extra chips isn't going to make that much of a difference...opinions?

pokerstars Game #53344663957: Tournament #341010216, $1.00+$0.10 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2010/11/27 4:30:42 PT [2010/11/27 7:30:42 ET]
Table '341010216 156' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: madalina89 (8785 in chips)
Seat 2: yepiQ (29837 in chips)
Seat 3: TJBIGDOG (1075 in chips)
Seat 4: Pensioner-77 (1762 in chips)
Seat 5: ace2dog (21090 in chips)
Seat 6: Fonod (7850 in chips)
Seat 7: TRM_SHRiMP (18303 in chips)
Seat 8: 1000000$Hand (6028 in chips)
Seat 9: ms cepride (1990 in chips)
ace2dog: posts small blind 100
Fonod: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to TRM_SHRiMP [Ac Kh]
TRM_SHRiMP: raises 299 to 499
1000000$Hand: folds
ms cepride: folds
madalina89: folds
yepiQ: folds
TJBIGDOG: folds
Pensioner-77: folds
ace2dog: folds
Fonod: calls 299
...villain thought for a long time before calling here.
*** FLOP *** [9d 7d Kc]
Fonod: bets 201
...I don't like this bet at all. He took too long PF to call with 77/99 and I think KK raise preflop. His bet is just really weak and I think it's more of a blocking bet than anything. He could have a weak king or be on some of draw.
TRM_SHRiMP: raises 17603 to 17804 and is all-in
...I decide shove here expecting to get called by a weak king or hopefully i get called by draw with improper odds. Also, I don't give these players a ton of credit, so I expect to be called her majority of the time.
Fonod: calls 7150 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (10453) returned to TRM_SHRiMP
*** TURN *** [9d 7d Kc] [4d]
*** RIVER *** [9d 7d Kc 4d] [8d]
TRM_SHRiMP said, "nh"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Fonod: shows [Qd 2d] (a flush, Queen high)
TRM_SHRiMP: shows [Ac Kh] (a pair of Kings)
Fonod collected 15800 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 15800 | Rake 0
Board [9d 7d Kc 4d 8d]
Seat 1: madalina89 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: yepiQ folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: TJBIGDOG folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Pensioner-77 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: ace2dog (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Fonod (big blind) showed [Qd 2d] and won (15800) with a flush, Queen high
Seat 7: TRM_SHRiMP showed [Ac Kh] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 8: 1000000$Hand folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: ms cepride folded before Flop (didn't bet)

So, of course I lost the hand. No biggie because I knew the risk I was taking. But is this big risk and big swing in my stack worth it? I'm very happy my opponent called of 7K on a flush draw, but would it have been better if I maybe raised the flop instead and then slow down on the turn if a diamond comes? If I have to slowdown because the flush hit, I'm giving up the minimum. But if I win the hand, am I not also losing value by allowing my opponent to fold and save chips if I know he is willing to stack off on a draw?
 
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lol 50$ mtt at UB

Absolute/UB Cereus Hold'em, $150.00 BB (8 handed) - Absolute/UB Cereus Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB ($1150)
BB ($4841)
Hero (UTG) ($3155)
UTG+1 ($2295)
MP1 ($2040)
MP2 ($1660)
CO ($3635)
Button ($6981)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K
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, K
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Hero bets $450, 6 folds, BB raises to $3450, Hero calls $2705 (All-In)

Flop: ($6385) 8
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, Q
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, 2
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(2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($6385) 9
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(2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($6385) K
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(2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $6385

Results:
BB had 8
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, 4
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(one pair, eights).
Hero had K
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, K
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(three of a kind, Kings).
Outcome: Hero won $12770
 
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I don't mind the shove there, I mean in these 1$ mtts its so hard to find ranges cus they are usually so wide. They can have anything in these!

I think it's easy to see that taking the line of just raising, him calling, and you slowing down when the diamond comes since you see the results now.

But I usually bet a large amount to get them off draws like that anyways, maybe not all in, sometimes, but I don't mind it here.
 
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Haven't won one in a while...haven't played many in a while.
took this small $2 R&A Down

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tournaments all night tonight..anyone else playing?
 
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I am in the $14k gtd super stack at FT - down to 67 and itm but very very short lol.
 
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I am in the $14k gtd super stack at FT - down to 67 and itm but very very short lol.

I tried to search and nothing, guessing you busted o well gg.

thats a long haul in those!
 
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Dear FT, I am sorry I left for a little to play at UB. Please let me run good again?!


Thanks,
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I guess FT doesn't care about my letter lol

full tilt poker Game #25974506045: $64,000 Rush Guar (Rebuy) (201225786), Table 328 - 100/200 - No Limit Hold'em - 17:39:13 ET - 2010/11/29
Seat 1: batesyboy (21,800)
Seat 2: ol muggins (22,784)
Seat 3: crashman12 (900)
Seat 4: leoriver (6,780)
Seat 5: Sweetspotted77 (12,999)
Seat 6: bazzawazza1 (21,022)
Seat 7: Ireman85 (27,290)
Seat 8: sisi_27 (3,040)
Seat 9: ChipaJones (13,720)
ol muggins posts the small blind of 100
crashman12 posts the big blind of 200
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChipaJones [4h 4c]
leoriver folds
Sweetspotted77 raises to 400
bazzawazza1 folds
Ireman85 folds
sisi_27 folds
ChipaJones calls 400
batesyboy folds
ol muggins folds
crashman12 folds
*** FLOP *** [2h 6h 4s]
Sweetspotted77 bets 800
ChipaJones raises to 1,600
Sweetspotted77 calls 800
*** TURN *** [2h 6h 4s] [6s]
Sweetspotted77 checks
ChipaJones checks
*** RIVER *** [2h 6h 4s 6s] [9c]
Sweetspotted77 has 15 seconds left to act
Sweetspotted77 bets 2,600
ChipaJones raises to 11,720, and is all in
Sweetspotted77 has 15 seconds left to act
Sweetspotted77 calls 8,399, and is all in
Uncalled bet of 721 returned to ChipaJones
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ChipaJones shows [4h 4c] a full house, Fours full of Sixes
Sweetspotted77 shows [9h 9s] a full house, Nines full of Sixes
Sweetspotted77 wins the pot (26,298) with a full house, Nines full of Sixes
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 26,298 | Rake 0
Board: [2h 6h 4s 6s 9c]
Seat 1: batesyboy (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: ol muggins (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: crashman12 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: leoriver didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: Sweetspotted77 showed [9h 9s] and won (26,298) with a full house, Nines full of Sixes
Seat 6: bazzawazza1 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: Ireman85 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: sisi_27 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: ChipaJones showed [4h 4c] and lost with a full house, Fours full of Sixes
 
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hope i put the address on right,...wow very crucial pot too in the 42k gtd...sigh

Full Tilt poker game #25974918387: Turbo $40K Guarantee (Rush) (201225829), Table 181 - 400/800 Ante 100 - No Limit Hold'em - 17:53:12 ET - 2010/11/29
Seat 1: ChipaJones (62,531)
Seat 2: fmak18 (32,941)
Seat 3: P33J (17,476)
Seat 4: noodlearms (53,726)
Seat 5: Luckykuhn (8,729)
Seat 6: MEgrandeTETAS (24,575)
ChipaJones antes 100
fmak18 antes 100
P33J antes 100
noodlearms antes 100
Luckykuhn antes 100
MEgrandeTETAS antes 100
fmak18 posts the small blind of 400
P33J posts the big blind of 800
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChipaJones [Kh Kd]
noodlearms folds
Luckykuhn folds
MEgrandeTETAS folds
ChipaJones raises to 2,400
fmak18 calls 2,000
P33J raises to 17,376, and is all in
ChipaJones raises to 32,352
fmak18 folds
ChipaJones shows [Kh Kd]
P33J shows [7d 9d]
Uncalled bet of 14,976 returned to ChipaJones
*** FLOP *** [2d 8s Qc]
*** TURN *** [2d 8s Qc] [6s]
*** RIVER *** [2d 8s Qc 6s] [5c]
ChipaJones shows a pair of Kings
P33J shows a straight, Nine high
P33J wins the pot (37,752) with a straight, Nine high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 37,752 | Rake 0
Board: [2d 8s Qc 6s 5c]
Seat 1: ChipaJones (button) showed [Kh Kd] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 2: fmak18 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: P33J (big blind) showed [7d 9d] and won (37,752) with a straight, Nine high
Seat 4: noodlearms folded before the Flop
Seat 5: Luckykuhn folded before the Flop
Seat 6: MEgrandeTETAS folded before the Flop
 
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That sucks, but you're still in good position. GL the rest of the way.
 
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Ugh 3 away from ft and this...win all my ahead hands up to here then boom gone...FT really messing with me lol. Nothing sick just him hitting a pair but just really bad timing..

Full Tilt Poker Game #25995184915: $7,500 Guarantee (201457910), Table 68 - 1500/3000 Ante 400 - No Limit Hold'em - 12:21:08 ET - 2010/11/30
Seat 1: el_hierbas (34,922)
Seat 2: ChipaJones (62,298)
Seat 3: theptpackage (146,242)
Seat 4: HansBy (60,012)
Seat 5: Superfizzy (218,564)
Seat 8: LightningDolt (55,690)
Seat 9: pfmfm (208,249)
el_hierbas antes 400
ChipaJones antes 400
theptpackage antes 400
HansBy antes 400
Superfizzy antes 400
LightningDolt antes 400
pfmfm antes 400
el_hierbas posts the small blind of 1,500
ChipaJones posts the big blind of 3,000
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChipaJones [Ac Kd]
theptpackage folds
HansBy folds
Superfizzy has 15 seconds left to act
Superfizzy folds
LightningDolt folds
pfmfm has 15 seconds left to act
pfmfm raises to 6,100
el_hierbas folds
ChipaJones raises to 61,898, and is all in
pfmfm has 15 seconds left to act
pfmfm calls 55,798
ChipaJones shows [Ac Kd]
pfmfm shows [As Td]
*** FLOP *** [Ah 8d Ts]
*** TURN *** [Ah 8d Ts] [Qh]
*** RIVER *** [Ah 8d Ts Qh] [8h]
ChipaJones shows two pair, Aces and Eights
pfmfm shows two pair, Aces and Tens
pfmfm wins the pot (128,096) with two pair, Aces and Tens
theptpackage: !
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 128,096 | Rake 0
Board: [Ah 8d Ts Qh 8h]
Seat 1: el_hierbas (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: ChipaJones (big blind) showed [Ac Kd] and lost with two pair, Aces and Eights
Seat 3: theptpackage folded before the Flop
Seat 4: HansBy folded before the Flop
Seat 5: Superfizzy folded before the Flop
Seat 8: LightningDolt folded before the Flop
Seat 9: pfmfm (button) showed [As Td] and won (128,096) with two pair, Aces and Tens
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so i join a 26$ right after that...2nd hand some sick variance going on, Im starting to laugh at it now!

Full Tilt Poker Game #25995377610: $19,500 Guarantee (201491231), Table 46 - 20/40 - No Limit Hold'em - 12:29:41 ET - 2010/11/30
Seat 1: themarcoh (2,615)
Seat 2: pokervi7 (3,175)
Seat 3: ChipaJones (2,940)
Seat 4: MKY001 (2,810)
Seat 5: PietYo (3,320)
Seat 6: ninakus54 (2,980)
Seat 7: aanojus (3,875)
Seat 8: InterneTT93o (3,000)
Seat 9: Mumbo Just (2,305)
Mumbo Just posts the small blind of 20
themarcoh posts the big blind of 40
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChipaJones [Ad Qd]
pokervi7 folds
ChipaJones raises to 160
MKY001 calls 160
PietYo folds
ninakus54 folds
aanojus folds
Mumbo Just has 15 seconds left to act
Mumbo Just folds
themarcoh folds
*** FLOP *** [8d 9d 5d]
ChipaJones has 15 seconds left to act
ChipaJones bets 80
MKY001 raises to 360
ChipaJones calls 280
*** TURN *** [8d 9d 5d] [5h]
ChipaJones bets 2,420, and is all in
MKY001 calls 2,290, and is all in
ChipaJones shows [Ad Qd]
MKY001 shows [5s 5c]
Uncalled bet of 130 returned to ChipaJones
*** RIVER *** [8d 9d 5d 5h] [7c]
ChipaJones shows a flush, Ace high
MKY001 shows four of a kind, Fives
MKY001 wins the pot (5,680) with four of a kind, Fives
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5,680 | Rake 0
Board: [8d 9d 5d 5h 7c]
Seat 1: themarcoh (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: pokervi7 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: ChipaJones showed [Ad Qd] and lost with a flush, Ace high
Seat 4: MKY001 showed [5s 5c] and won (5,680) with four of a kind, Fives
Seat 5: PietYo didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: ninakus54 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: aanojus (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: InterneTT93o is sitting out
Seat 9: Mumbo Just (small blind) folded before the Flop
 
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i couple sick beats sry kc, i was railing the 7.5k gtd
 
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Don't make me move this thread to bad beats lol. :p
 
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Don't make me move this thread to bad beats lol. :p

I stopped with that one lol, figured it would be too much :D

It seems like I have no gray area in poker when it comes to variance, either im hot or cold...
 
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