***Momentus May Tournament Thread***

[JohnBoyWWFC]

TBH I've been opening weak from EP like the QJ hand. It's a problem.

 

[duggs]

i think its fine in some situations as long as you dont overdo it, people give tight ranges EP and absurdly wide ones late so its an adjustment you can make to open you ep range a bit

 

[duggs]

71/600 ITM at break
50bb

 

[BlueNowhere]

I much prefer opening a hand like QJ instead of 33.

 

[duggs]

agreed but i dont hate the small pairs in certain situations

 

[JohnBoyWWFC]

Yeah I do it a lot and get a fair amount of respect. Thing is, I hate folding pocket pairs and I hate open limping so 22-66 from EP is a problem spot for me. Anyway 28k at 600/1200/150. 5740 left, just less than 4000 cash. I shouldn't have bought in tbh, but I'd be happy with any cash. I usually suck in these big field tournies.

 

[JohnBoyWWFC]

New table, no history, shortish stack. Bad times.

 

[JusSumguy]

I usually raise small PP's.

If facing a raise, I usually fold. Unless... usual LAG talk.

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[BlueNowhere]

I tend to just fold small PP from ep. I generally play in the region of $2 BIs though and raising them from ep just isn't profitable so what I say here may not be applicable (although the field does look fairly weak for a $27 BI)

 

[JohnBoyWWFC]

It will be in a SCOOP. Hell I think I'm decent at MTTs but I'm weak for a $27 BI. Hating the lack of a refresh button on the new info pane, I'm usually smashing it to pieces approaching the bubble.

 

[BlueNowhere]

Yea I don't know why they got rid of refresh button, that sucks. I just click on stats and then go back to info which is basically same but I have to click twice as many times.

 

[JusSumguy]

My reasoning for the raise is two fold.

1. I'm likely to be ahead anyway.
2. I've mentioned before a Gavin Smith quote "I just bet, nobody ever hits anyway." To me, that statement is deeper than it's delivery. In select situations with small PP's I can represent AA post flop, if it feels right, because of my PF raise. Especially with a small board. It works. If the board starts getting bets, oh well.

If I raise and get re raised, then I fold. But calls be good.

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[JohnBoyWWFC]

Chip leader at my table, but well under average. 57k at 800/1600/200, average is 66k, cash in 400 people. 4300ish left.

 

[duggs]

busted bigger 55
K9<A10
AK<???
89<K6
55<JQ

went from a 50k stack at 700/1400 to nothing pretty quick

 

[JohnBoyWWFC]

Fingers crossed that doesn't happen to me! Just over 40k at 800/1600/200, very close to cash. Is no one else left in this?

 

[BlueNowhere]

My reasoning for the raise is two fold.

1. I'm likely to be ahead anyway.
2. I've mentioned before a Gavin Smith quote "I just bet, nobody ever hits anyway." To me, that statement is deeper than it's delivery. In select situations with small PP's I can represent AA post flop, if it feels right, because of my PF raise. Especially with a small board. It works. If the board starts getting bets, oh well.

If I raise and get re raised, then I fold. But calls be good.

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Well using this argument you may as well start raising 67s type hands as well since you can pick up decent equity with them more often, nobody will have a hand that connects with small boards in your ep raising range so you'll get paid off when you do hit by some top pair and overpair type hands and you can still blow people off hands by repping a strong range.

 

[JohnBoyWWFC]

Cashed. Now the fun starts. Still drinking...

 

[JusSumguy]

Well using this argument you may as well start raising 67s type hands as well since you can pick up decent equity with them more often, nobody will have a hand that connects with small boards in your ep raising range so you'll get paid off when you do hit by some top pair and overpair type hands and you can still blow people off hands by repping a strong range.

Because you've got nothing to fall back on.

A good amount of time you're still ahead post flop with any pair. And there's that whole set thing. With 76 you got nothing but a bluff post flop. Well, unless you hit the miracle flop. Which seems to be the norm for me as of late.

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[only_bridge]

Shortstacked.

This is taking longer than I would have prefered.

And I am only 1-tabling cause will go to bed as soon as out, and think that might happen soon.

Edit: Out. AQ<JJ
Goodnight.

 

[JohnBoyWWFC]

curious if the QJs fold is marginal v RBownds shove. He's a reg and gonna ship wide from LP. Think it's good though....Just folded AJo when JuanMott shoved (nit) and Camel called. Good in hindsight. Bad shove from Camel I thought with TT on Q high board into dead pot, whats he beating if he gets called? If he just wanted to iso, shove pre, no?

 

[JohnBoyWWFC]

Phew

pokerstars No-Limit Hold'em, 27 Tournament, 2000/4000 Blinds 500 Ante (9 handed) - PokerStars Hand Converter from HandHistoryConverter.com

MP1 (t165251)
MP2 (t153400)
MP3 (t95543)
CO (t150850)
Button (t181842)
Hero (SB) (t33722)
BB (t25730)
UTG (t123406)
UTG+1 (t109353)

Hero's M: 3.21

Preflop: Hero is SB with K

, A

4 folds, MP3 bets t95043 (All-In), 2 folds, Hero calls t31222 (All-In), 1 fold

Flop: (t74944) J

, 7

, 9

(2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: (t74944) 3

(2 players, 2 all-in)

River: (t74944) K

(2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: t74944

Results:
Hero had K

, A

(one pair, Kings).
MP3 had Q

, Q

(one pair, Queens).
Outcome: Hero won t74944

 

[JohnBoyWWFC]

PokerStars Hand #80037165318: Tournament #2012050021, $25+$2 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXIII (2500/5000) - 2012/05/06 21:11:27 ET
Table '2012050021 1872' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: tehraduh (216792 in chips)
Seat 2: HowCanUFold (259050 in chips)
Seat 3: Comeback2008 (178264 in chips)
Seat 4: s198327 (173780 in chips)
Seat 5: shadowb86 (229542 in chips)
Seat 6: Jonnywatford (53626 in chips)
Seat 7: posidonas (148420 in chips)
Seat 8: titko23 (89906 in chips)
Seat 9: stuupid5 (45511 in chips)
tehraduh: posts the ante 625
HowCanUFold: posts the ante 625
Comeback2008: posts the ante 625
s198327: posts the ante 625
shadowb86: posts the ante 625
Jonnywatford: posts the ante 625
posidonas: posts the ante 625
titko23: posts the ante 625
stuupid5: posts the ante 625
tehraduh: posts small blind 2500
HowCanUFold: posts big blind 5000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Jonnywatford [Kd Ah]
Comeback2008: folds
Jonnywatford said, "eugh"
s198327: raises 5500 to 10500
Jonnywatford said, "so grim"
shadowb86: folds
Jonnywatford: raises 42501 to 53001 and is all-in
posidonas: folds
titko23: folds
stuupid5: calls 44886 and is all-in
tehraduh: folds
HowCanUFold: folds
s198327: calls 42501
*** FLOP *** [3s 9s Qs]
*** TURN *** [3s 9s Qs] [6s]
*** RIVER *** [3s 9s Qs 6s] [8h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
s198327: shows [Ks Js] (a flush, King high)
Jonnywatford: shows [Kd Ah] (high card Ace)
s198327 collected 16230 from side pot
stuupid5: shows [Ac Jh] (high card Ace)
s198327 collected 147783 from main pot
Jonnywatford finished the tournament in 1663rd place and received $93.84.
stuupid5 finished the tournament in 1664th place and received $93.84.
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 164013 Main pot 147783. Side pot 16230. | Rake 0
Board [3s 9s Qs 6s 8h]
Seat 1: tehraduh (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: HowCanUFold (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Comeback2008 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: s198327 showed [Ks Js] and won (164013) with a flush, King high
Seat 5: shadowb86 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Jonnywatford showed [Kd Ah] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 7: posidonas folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: titko23 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: stuupid5 (button) showed [Ac Jh] and lost with high card Ace

 

[Pascal-lf]

sucks that you got it in ahead and lost but meh you got it in ahead and shit hands, gg

pretty sure you can refresh the info tab by changing tab e.g. to chat and then changing back again

 

[duggs]

congrats on the big 33 2nd place pascal, how did the heads up play go down?

 

[Pascal-lf]

cheers. went badly, couldn't hit a thing and he got there in some pretty nasty spots with not many outs. he didn't play very well, way too fit or fold, but i couldn't exploit it well enough and didn't get any help from the cards. going to work on my hu game soon.