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Still. "Folder's remorse" is an emotional illusion. One which must be conquered as best as one can for the sake of one's game. I'm not saying that is easy... I hate to see my flush fill up on the river when I folded. But if pot odds are worse than my best estimation of implied odds... well I did the right thing.

Real or imagined, I'm just saying folder's remorse is easier to overcome in rush. As is overcoming losing face and being berated by an angry chatter who you just sucked out, etc. Like I said, there is less psychological baggage.

Another advantage of rush is that you don't have to deal with people coming and going in tables, forgetting to post their bb, tables becoming empty, having to find another, etc. It just flows, and you can focus on what's important.

It's just an altogether a cleaner game from a psychological standpoint. It's like playing a road game in the Superdome without the noise.
 
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Ok, so I'll post this in at least one other place just so everybody knows..... HEM now supports Rush Poker! It does not have the traditional HUD, but supports a notes feature... Read below, I copied this from poker news:

"It took the poker software industry all of one week to support Rush Poker. Now, the popular tracking program Holdem Manager has created a workaround for the new addition. Poker’s latest update that featured the introduction of A video that appears within the Holdem Manager following the program’s latest update explains its developers’ method of supporting Rush Poker: “Because of the nature of the new Full Tilt Rush Poker tables, we couldn’t use the traditional HUD (Heads-Up Display) approach. Instead, what we've done is designed a tool where you can inject your database stats on players directly into the Full Tilt notes feature.” The stats that would normally appear in a player’s HUD can be found by hovering the mouse near an opponent’s name to bring up their notes.
In order to get started, players should head to the “Options” menu and click on “Rush FTP Notes Export.” Then, select the notes file for the player that they want to export them for. Clicking “Go” starts the process and Holdem Manager officials note that this step could take anywhere from a few seconds to a few minutes. After each session, players are advised to update their notes.
When you’re seated at a table, just hover your mouse over where the notes normally appear and, instantaneously, any stats logged on a player will be shown. The stats update automatically whenever you change Rush Poker tables, so players don’t have to worry about their HUDs not being able to keep up as they frantically log 300-plus hands per hour on Full Tilt’s Rush Poker tables. Some players had reported that their HUDs could not handle the pace of Rush Poker, while others commented that the stats feature worked flawlessly."
 
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Ok, so I'll post this in at least one other place just so everybody knows..... HEM now supports Rush Poker! It does not have the traditional HUD, but supports a notes feature... Read below, I copied this from poker news:

"It took the poker software industry all of one week to support Rush Poker. Now, the popular tracking program Holdem Manager has created a workaround for the new addition. Poker’s latest update that featured the introduction of A video that appears within the Holdem Manager following the program’s latest update explains its developers’ method of supporting Rush Poker: “Because of the nature of the new Full Tilt Rush Poker tables, we couldn’t use the traditional HUD (Heads-Up Display) approach. Instead, what we've done is designed a tool where you can inject your database stats on players directly into the Full Tilt notes feature.” The stats that would normally appear in a player’s HUD can be found by hovering the mouse near an opponent’s name to bring up their notes.
In order to get started, players should head to the “Options” menu and click on “Rush FTP Notes Export.” Then, select the notes file for the player that they want to export them for. Clicking “Go” starts the process and Holdem Manager officials note that this step could take anywhere from a few seconds to a few minutes. After each session, players are advised to update their notes.
When you’re seated at a table, just hover your mouse over where the notes normally appear and, instantaneously, any stats logged on a player will be shown. The stats update automatically whenever you change Rush Poker tables, so players don’t have to worry about their HUDs not being able to keep up as they frantically log 300-plus hands per hour on Full Tilt’s Rush Poker tables. Some players had reported that their HUDs could not handle the pace of Rush Poker, while others commented that the stats feature worked flawlessly."

[x] Great News
[ ] Trying To Tilt cAPSLOCK
[x] Will Update HEM as soon as I get home.
 
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definitely a more quick pace, very fun to play but if your in a hand make sure you have a monster because everyone plays much tighter because you can fold 10 bad hands in about 10 seconds
 
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I guess if you are into releasing a bonus it has a place but it is not my idea of poker. Paoker is a game of skill with alot of patience and this is the complete opposite.
 
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Well, I deposited on Full Tilt just to try the Rush Tables out. I can see this taking off in a big way for FT, so it'll be interesting how pokerstars counters. I also expect a backlash from "concerned folk" over these games if they become more popular. Rush Poker seems like it's designed to bankrupt problem gamblers.
 
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AK really loses its value in this type of game. AA and KK may be the only hands I would want to raise pre. I like the strategy of setmining and looking for cheap flops with suited Ax and pretty much folding everything else to avoid the variance. This is video poker in my opinion.
 
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Here is what I am seeing in this game: bluffing does not work. I'm getting called down by villians with Ace hi or middle pocket pairs. If villian calls my cb, villian than calls me down to the river. Double and triple barrel bluffs aren't working.

I will admit that I have no idea what the optimal strategy is for this game. I find that folding anything but the strongest hands is boring even if the next hand starts immediately. Bluffing, with or without position, is not working for me. I'm definately a fish at this game. I think my optimal strategy is to avoid this game!
 
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Big bluffs often don't work. But snatching pots from position after everyone checks usually does work. People are less likely to stay in the hand "for the heck of it" and then get lucky, because they know a better opportunity may be a mouse click away.
 
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Tables seem to be tightening up considerably & avg. pot size is getting smaller.
Calling preflop w small pp in position is about the biggest money-maker for me on these tables...... I'm yet to see anyone let go of their big pairs when I flop a set,... seems almost a guarantee to stack them off.
Quite a few more players also buying in short (40bb at 10NL). Scanning table quickly each time to see stack sizes, eyes are getting sore, lol.

Had a rough go the other night, losing a few buyins to miracle cards (ie. villain opens with Q9o, I 3bet w AK, flopping top 2 I smooth call the flop, he double barrels (he picks up a gutter drw on the turn), I raise him allin on the turn... he calls & hits gutter.... lol.... sigh.. Seems to be the nature of my beats on RUSH poker (that and 5betting AA pre & getting called by JJ/99/55 and losing an 80/20).

Some of the play is pretty funny on those tables, but it seems to have tightened up somewhat (not quite as fun & insane as it was in it's first couple of days).
..... just my observations...... might go for another fix now. Will quit once I've won a buyin for a $26donkament.
GL to all!
 
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Had a rough go the other night, losing a few buyins to miracle cards (ie. villain opens with Q9o, I 3bet w AK, flopping top 2 I smooth call the flop, he double barrels (he picks up a gutter drw on the turn), I raise him allin on the turn... he calls & hits gutter.... lol.... sigh.. Seems to be the nature of my beats on RUSH poker (that and 5betting AA pre & getting called by JJ/99/55 and losing an 80/20).

Your AA was almost a coin flip there, about 54/46
http://twodimes.net/h/?z=7065390

But yeah I had the same thing happen to me. Limp limp limp ... I raise with KK 9xbb and everyone calls, really hard to get away from that with no A on the rainbow flop with only 100 bb starting stack, and of course they slow play their set.
 
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i have tried rush poker, i am up 35$ at 5c/10c buying in for only 4$ and getting the hell out when i double up. took about 2 hours of play, 1 table for 1.5 hours and 2 tables for the rest.
 
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please can someone help me? i cant open the fulltilt poker rush category.the buttons for the view are unable.why?
 
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please can someone help me? i cant open the fulltilt poker rush category.the buttons for the view are unable.why?

You're probably on a netbook. The screen resolution is not high enough for the standard or basic lobby views.
 
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Ima live cash game player. I can't wait till I start online. All of those who think this is like video poker. Playing 24 tables with a hud is video poker. This now makes yu think with bet sizes relative to stack. Plus you have no reads unless you seen the player before kinda like a casino. I will be making the switch to online looking forward to the new challenge.
 
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Your AA was almost a coin flip there, about 54/46
http://twodimes.net/h/?z=7065390

But yeah I had the same thing happen to me. Limp limp limp ... I raise with KK 9xbb and everyone calls, really hard to get away from that with no A on the rainbow flop with only 100 bb starting stack, and of course they slow play their set.

You've misinterpretted.... 5betting AA... & getting called by low pairs w/o implied odds on separate occassions (not all on the same hand... although I did see a bunch like that... ie. 55 calling a 5bet shove for 150 effective bb's, lol... & winning).

Time of day I'm noticing a big diffence on the rush tables.... during the daytime (est, ie. 14:00 - 20:00.. really loose & lots of newbs & donks)... late at nite (03:00 > 07:00... tables REALLY tight... tough to get action).
 
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Hello,

Made a video of myself playing rush. Ended up tripling my buy-in :D
Anyways... imo, rush is good for grinding high volume at micros, where you really can have an edge. At higher stakes, everyone can play mathematically good basic poker, so playing rush becomes more or less zero game. But each to their own... Imo there's not a better satisfaction then leveling your opponent and winning a big pot. :)

Here's the video if you're interested. It's pretty fast, as it's 30min session squeezed into youtubes 10min limit:

YouTube- Making money playing Rush Poker
 
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j00f's youtube session:

Nice to flop the nut flush and get paid off with ajclubs

quick folding tenjack? At least limp.

Ace7diamonds raising pot after a limper to 40c then folding to a 1 buck reraise? Just limp behind the limper then call that players raise which would be about 50 to 70 cents. This way you see the flop instead of blowing 40cents

qjackoff donk opens 95c then calls your 8bux lol

quickfold ace3hearts dude limp it maybe u flop nuts again lol then u quickfold ace4diamonds. Guess you dont like limping in early positions with these.

cbet that acequeenoff you may have won that pot

nice float in position with ace4clubs takes it way on 2pair board on turn :)

6min in - nice over bet with your wheel on river, shame it was a chop.

nice shove on river with QQ and that donk didn't even have the jack and called you.
 
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Ace7diamonds raising pot after a limper to 40c then folding to a 1 buck reraise? Just limp behind the limper then call that players raise which would be about 50 to 70 cents.

...dude limp it maybe u flop nuts

no.
 
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Wow, Nice play through. I might actually go back to full tilt. I need to check this out!
 
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I played the play money version and I'm hooked. This will be an interesting game because if everyone is playing super tight, you won't get much action when you have a good hand. But when you do get called, it's safe to assume your opponent has a the same range of hands like you.
 
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quick folding tenjack? At least limp.
From such an early position it's a fold.

Ace7diamonds raising pot after a limper to 40c then folding to a 1 buck reraise? Just limp behind the limper then call that players raise which would be about 50 to 70 cents. This way you see the flop instead of blowing 40cents
Not a fan of playing drawing hands OOP, especially in 3bet pots.

quickfold ace3hearts dude limp it maybe u flop nuts again lol then u quickfold ace4diamonds. Guess you dont like limping in early positions with these.
Yep. It's just really hard to show a profit playing them OOP.

cbet that acequeenoff you may have won that pot
Yep. Took a too passive line there. I just thought he'd float me on that board so often that I'm just burning money by betting. But since I can't really c/c it's better to bet/fold.

nice float in position with ace4clubs takes it way on 2pair board on turn :)
Yeah, he's mostly cbetting missed overs on the flop and that turn was perfect for taking the pot away. But any low card would have sufficed. Had he bet the turn, it would have been a clear fold.

nice shove on river with QQ and that donk didn't even have the jack and called you.
That hand was very weirdly played by him. If I hadn't rivered a boat, I would have probably check-called. He could take this line with AJ, KJ and sure sometimes trips/boat but combinatorically it's more likely to be one of the former + I only need to be good bit less than third of the time.

And thanks for taking the time! Much appreciated. :)
 
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