PartyPoker closed for Ukrainians?

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They stopped the LB's above $20 but for games $20 & under they are busier than anywhere else I've checked
So apparently you have not checked out pokerstars? According to Pokerscout cash game volume on PokerStars is 6-7 times higher than on partypoker, and it would be very weird, if the distribution of SnG volume was much different.
 
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So apparently you have not checked out PokerStars? According to Pokerscout cash game volume on PokerStars is 6-7 times higher than on PartyPoker, and it would be very weird, if the distribution of SnG volume was much different.
I mean i dont really play sit and goes there because i hate their software but the last few times i checked everything above 2 dollar sng's seemed to be dead there or at least u have to wait forever for them to fill up.

Maybe i did not check enough or on the wrong time who knows. But traffic will certainly decrease more if they leave every market possible.
 
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So apparently you have not checked out PokerStars? According to Pokerscout cash game volume on PokerStars is 6-7 times higher than on PartyPoker, and it would be very weird, if the distribution of SnG volume was much different.
Actually it wouldn't be weird at all. Partypoker still offers DoNs & they also offer a Leaderboard which just on that alone (& higher rakeback deals), the regs. in the Low buyin LB's are pulling in an extra $500+ per week. I don't think that's possible on Stars today.
During peak times there's enough traffic on there to do 25games/hr., & is possible to play 200 in an 8hr. session.
fwiw, I have no clue how many sng's run on Stars (I don't play them)
Not sure how accurate PokerScout is these days and what they actually base their numbers on. Once upon a time they were accurate and were in line with PokerTableRatings (< site that tracked every single cash hand played & would/could give you your stats. for each & every site, all hands played). Their numbers don't seem accurate to me. (haven't checked on there for many months though).
 
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Is it true that PartyPoker is closed for Ukraine, and why???

Maybe check out this thread >
 
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Is it true that PartyPoker is closed for Ukraine, and why???
Yes, it is indeed true. In the near future, the accounts of Ukrainian players will be blocked. I received a letter from them warning that my account will be blocked by the end of this month. In addition to Ukraine, the accounts of players from argentina, Bolivia, Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan will be blocked.
 
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Actually it wouldn't be weird at all. Partypoker still offers DoNs & they also offer a Leaderboard which just on that alone (& higher rakeback deals), the regs. in the Low buyin LB's are pulling in an extra $500+ per week. I don't think that's possible on Stars today.
ACR also has a SnG leaderboard, but even so SnGs on ACR are completely dead except during peak hours, which is the american evening time. If you play at any other time, you need to wait a long time to even get a few 5$ games running. Its possible, there is still decent SnG action on PartyPoker during peak hours. But I dont want to play only during peak hours, and when they kick out a significant portion of their current customers, for sure volume will decline even further. Finally I am not egligible for any sort of leaderboard or rakeback or whatever, because I live in sweden. So for me this makes no difference at all.
 
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ACR also has a SnG leaderboard, but even so SnGs on ACR are completely dead except during peak hours, which is the american evening time. If you play at any other time, you need to wait a long time to even get a few 5$ games running. Its possible, there is still decent SnG action on PartyPoker during peak hours. But I dont want to play only during peak hours, and when they kick out a significant portion of their current customers, for sure volume will decline even further.
Everything I wrote is fact. Not just random numbers I've come up with (actually some of the numbers are less than what they actually might be).
I have a friend who has been playing SnG's on Party for the past couple/few years. Last time I spoke with him was... yesterday.
It's a shame for any of the sites to lose numbers. GG seems to be blasting off though.
 
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I mean i dont really play sit and goes there because i hate their software but the last few times i checked everything above 2 dollar sng's seemed to be dead there or at least u have to wait forever for them to fill up. Maybe i did not check enough or on the wrong time who knows.
Exactly what I would expect from a site with so few players.
I have a friend who has been playing SnG's on Party for the past couple/few years. Last time I spoke with him was... yesterday.
So basically hearsay, since you are not playing these games yourself.
It's a shame for any of the sites to lose numbers.
It is, and leaving so many markets will surely increase the speed of decline for PartyPoker.
GG seems to be blasting off though.
They are but unfortunately I am not allowed to play there. GG also dont offer any kind of SnGs but only Spins and other sorts of gambling formats.
 
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Just for fun I opened up the PokerStars and PartyPoker clients at the same time and set filters in both to see only 5$ SnGs with 6 or more players. And during the time it took for 10 games to start on PokerStars, not a single game had started on PartyPoker. To be fair I did see one game (a 6-man DoN) start on PartyPoker, before I began the count. But even so it seems fair to say, 5$ SnGs are not running on PartyPoker at this time of day (9 am CET), whereas they are on PokerStars. And when 5$ SnGs dont run, then most likely anything above that limit also dont run.

So yes it is an issue to get action in SnGs on PartyPoker, if you like to be able to play at any time of day, which suits you, rather than when the games run. And that issue will likely get worse, when they leave so many markets. Which was really the only point, I was trying to make. Maybe there are SnG regs there, who can live with the limitations and make good money. But for recreational players its unattractive to not find action, when they want it, and that tends to create a self reinforcing declining spiral, where at the end its only regs left grinding each other to death.
 
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So basically hearsay, since you are not playing these games yourself.
Which parts of my post(s) could you not understand? (do you know what heresay is?)
So basically nothing of the sort.

Interesting to see your assumptions regarding my posts in this thread.

A 'friend'... this isn't a term I've used to describe a screen name or avatar name I read somewhere on a forum (but I figured it was quite evident from what I'd written).
It's actually a guy I used to stake for MTT's & have been friends with since.

When I mentioned that he was still playing and I'd heard from him just a day prior, he actually sent me a screenshot, along with info.. I'd been inquiring about. If he hadn't, I certainly would've believed everything he stated, 100% .

I don't appreciate the comment.

As far as the regulars grinding each other to death.... have you been playing those games? Have you inquired with the regulars who are?
The guy I'm talking about is actually making a living from playing them
 
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Which parts of my post(s) could you not understand? (do you know what heresay is?)
So basically nothing of the sort.

Interesting to see your assumptions regarding my posts in this thread.

A 'friend'... this isn't a term I've used to describe a screen name or avatar name I read somewhere on a forum (but I figured it was quite evident from what I'd written).
It's actually a guy I used to stake for MTT's & have been friends with since.

When I mentioned that he was still playing and I'd heard from him just a day prior, he actually sent me a screenshot, along with info.. I'd been inquiring about. If he hadn't, I certainly would've believed everything he stated, 100% .

I don't appreciate the comment.

As far as the regulars grinding each other to death.... have you been playing those games? Have you inquired with the regulars who are?
The guy I'm talking about is actually making a living from playing them
Maybe it was rude calling information from your friend "hearsay", and it was not my intention to turn this into some sort of big argument. However you stated, that SnG activity on PartyPoker is "larger than anywhere else you checked", but as my small check show, SnGs on PartyPoker basically dont even run at certain times of day, whereas on PokerStars there is 24 hour activity. Logged onto the PartyPoker lobby again this morning, and during the 5 minutes or so I watched, not a single player registered for a 5$ SnG.

So presumably your friend play only during peak hours, and to play 20 games per hour he presumably also have to play several different formats and limits. If he play 200 games per day, that is something like 10.000 hands. That mean, he is mass multitabling, and if you are willing and able to put in this sort of volume, and you are a winning player, you can grind out a profit in many different game formats on many different sites.

But most CC members are recreational or part time players, who dont put in even a fraction of this volume. Personally I can play up to 2.000-2.500 hands in a day, but only when I am not working, and then I am pretty exhausted afterwards. So for most people a leaderboard does not matter, because we will never get anywhere near it. That being said the rake is lower on PartyPoker for some SnG formats. So that can be a legit reason to play there. But PokerStars offer more different formats, and as already established there is much more activity on the site.
 
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So apparently you have not checked out PokerStars? According to Pokerscout cash game volume on PokerStars is 6-7 times higher than on PartyPoker, and it would be very weird, if the distribution of SnG volume was much different.
Yes, unfortunately, players from Ukraine will be blocked at the end of this month. In addition, considering that a large number of players from other countries are also already blocked, I think that this site will cease its activity altogether in the near future or we will face some kind of rebranding.
 
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I think that this site will cease its activity altogether in the near future or we will face some kind of rebranding.
Only time will tell about this. But as someone else said, its not like, anybody are going to give them a medal of honour for leaving markets like austria, Argentina and Ukraine, where other sites still operate. So its difficult to see, what upside there is to this for either players or site owners.
 
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It's a pity, it was my favorite poker room
 
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Maybe it was rude calling information from your friend "hearsay", and it was not my intention to turn this into some sort of big argument. However you stated, that SnG activity on PartyPoker is "larger than anywhere else you checked", but as my small check show, SnGs on PartyPoker basically dont even run at certain times of day, whereas on PokerStars there is 24 hour activity. Logged onto the PartyPoker lobby again this morning, and during the 5 minutes or so I watched, not a single player registered for a 5$ SnG.

So presumably your friend play only during peak hours, and to play 20 games per hour he presumably also have to play several different formats and limits. If he play 200 games per day, that is something like 10.000 hands. That mean, he is mass multitabling, and if you are willing and able to put in this sort of volume, and you are a winning player, you can grind out a profit in many different game formats on many different sites.

But most CC members are recreational or part time players, who dont put in even a fraction of this volume. Personally I can play up to 2.000-2.500 hands in a day, but only when I am not working, and then I am pretty exhausted afterwards. So for most people a leaderboard does not matter, because we will never get anywhere near it. That being said the rake is lower on PartyPoker for some SnG formats. So that can be a legit reason to play there. But PokerStars offer more different formats, and as already established there is much more activity on the site.

He doesn't really play 'for a living'.
He didn't really purchase a condo.
He doesn't really support his family solely from SnGs on Partypoker.
What 'He' is doing is not unusual (20games/hr.)
And because he specializes, it works for him to play all of his volume there on PP. I honestly doubt he'd be able to grind out a profit in different formats (ie. MTT's... I doubt it (not at first anyways), Cashgame ahh... No.

I'm still trying to figure that part out.... if a guy is able to play multi-table and profit in one format, he can grind out profit in many different game formats on many different sites. Honestly, that makes zero sense.

IF he could make more money playing on multiple sites, don't you think he would be? Guess what.. he's found his niche and for now it is working for him.
 
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The saddest poker news of 2023 (even losing 10 times in a row with AA wouldn't upset me like this). Yes, Party says goodbye. Perfect tournament structures, small AFS and beautiful satellites... and everything is now in the past ( Beginning of 2022, Winamax left the Ukrainian market.. now PartyPoker.. I don’t understand the point, there aren’t as many players in this room as in other poker hegemons, and they it is also closed in a number of countries. It is strange and sad to replace Winamax and Party with nothing, but one should adapt to this reality, and in the future change one's place of residence(
 
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I haven't played there for a long time, anyway, let them go nah
 
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The saddest poker news of 2023 (even losing 10 times in a row with AA wouldn't disappoint me so much). Yes, the party says goodbye. Perfect tournament structures, small AFS and beautiful satellites... and all this is now a thing of the past (Early 2022 Winamax left the Ukrainian market.. now PartyPoker.. I don't understand the point, there are not as many players in this room as in other poker hegemons, and they are also closed in a number of countries. It's strange and sad not to replace Winamax and Party with anything, but you have to adapt to this reality and change your place of residence in the future (
ACR fly in and don't deny yourself anything) I've already made $5200 at freerolls and there's still a lot of money there), and PatyPoker was once interesting, now I don't mind at all
 
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So it was banned in Ukraine. Most likely, he does not have a license, they worked illegally
 
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