Carbon Poker updates?

[S3mper]

FYI been on Carbon since around Black Friday. Cashed out a few times a year with absolutely no problem since then. As a matter of fact I cashed out in January took 5 weeks as is stated on the site. Decided to cash out in April and 10 weeks later I am still pending. So you can see why I am concerned. I even joined this site to get some info from other people who actually make money on this site and have the ability to cash out like myself. In 14 years of online poker I have never joined one of these sites because I don't even like to chat with bozo's like yourself when I am playing. So you can deduce I am plenty concerned. By the way I have a job but I enjoy the extra money I make from the fish like you. I play for the money not the sport my fishy friend and anyone who tells you different is swimming in the same school as you. Carbon needs a wake up call NOW.

Carbon is getting some withdraws out. Some of the smaller withdraws are getting a jump over the bigger ones. I saw on 2+2 that some members have been switched to a different withdraw method after contacting support.

If I were you I would contact support and ask them if this is a possibility for you. I would also let THEM switch your withdraw method as I wouldn't dare press the cancel withdraw button after waiting for so long.

If that doesn't get you paid or isn't an option for you the only real option is to wait and wait till it's your turn.

 

[Jackmayhofer]

By the way the Superbowl should have no bearing on my cashout. The problem here could be that Carbon is in the Booking business and that bothers me.

 

[A2345Razz]

FYI been on Carbon since around Black Friday. Cashed out a few times a year with absolutely no problem since then. As a matter of fact I cashed out in January took 5 weeks as is stated on the site. Decided to cash out in April and 10 weeks later I am still pending. So you can see why I am concerned. I even joined this site to get some info from other people who actually make money on this site and have the ability to cash out like myself. In 14 years of online poker I have never joined one of these sites because I don't even like to chat with bozo's like yourself when I am playing. So you can deduce I am plenty concerned. By the way I have a job but I enjoy the extra money I make from the fish like you. I play for the money not the sport my fishy friend and anyone who tells you different is swimming in the same school as you. Carbon needs a wake up call NOW.

Carbon is continually paying people out, and you haven't been waiting 10 weeks according to your own post.

Guys, you're going to have to wait, there is no two ways around it. The more you pretend like Carbon is insolvent and will never pay anyone, the higher the chance on an actual run on the bank scenario (which is probably happening right now) and the lower the chances anyone will be paid back.

FTR, I believed I waited over 8 weeks for a cashout a long time ago, so pretending like they never took around the time you've waited ever before is simply inaccurate.

As far as the personal barbs, I know my results over my lifetime and I am very happy and fortunate to be in the black as a player both live and online. I also think trying to berate people by calling them fish and "reminding" them about how much they are losing to you isn't very smart from an EV perspective.


Now sit there and wait bc honestly there is no DOJ coming to save any of our assess this time. We may lose all our money online at any of the US facing sites; if you aren't completely cool with that, you need to unload your rolls.

 

[Jackmayhofer]

S3mper, joined this site after chatting with Carbon support and getting the same reply I got 5 weeks ago. Asked if they could give me an estimated time and they said they didn't want to give me an estimate and then disappoint me. We apologize for the inconvenience Thanks for your patience.

 

[Debi]

The DOJ went after PS and FT because they had proof of money laundering and more serious crimes against them - it was not because they took our money.

It is highly unlikely they would go after Carbon/Merge.

 

[Jackmayhofer]

A2345Razz, I apologize for berating you my friend but I don't understand your unwavering support for a site like this. I'm not a live player for the main reason the action is sooooooo slow and it takes 10 minutes to play a hand. What's your handle on Carbon? I'm sure we've played together.

 

[A2345Razz]

S3mper, joined this site after chatting with Carbon support and getting the same reply I got 5 weeks ago. Asked if they could give me an estimated time and they said they didn't want to give me an estimate and then disappoint me. We apologize for the inconvenience Thanks for your patience.

Why on earth were you talking to support 4 weeks into a cashout?

G-d only knows.....Carbon cashout, while they had a nice run of being relative prompt in 2014, have often taken longer than 4 weeks, so....

Be patient and stop trying to destroy a site that is still paying out (if only slowly) and is taking steps to save money continue operations. Why on earth do you want to sink Merge when you have money on there???

 

[A2345Razz]

A2345Razz, I apologize for berating you my friend but I don't understand your unwavering support for a site like this. I'm not a live player for the main reason the action is sooooooo slow and it takes 10 minutes to play a hand. What's your handle on Carbon? I'm sure we've played together.

My handles are in my profile for anyone to see/OPR.

I accept your apology and understand your frustration; I lost several thousand down the UB rabbit hole so I can sympathize fully.....it obviously sucked.

I don't support Carbon without reservation, and think EVERYONE SHOULD BE AWARE OF LONG POSSIBLE cashout times.

I think they are absolutely WRONG for posting a 3-5 week wait, when we all know that isn't true, and furthermore I don't think these waits are all that acceptable if they linger forever.

The question isn't support or criticism of Merge's management right now, rather it's what is a most constructive course to take to keep Merge afloat and paying out.

 

[A2345Razz]

A2345Razz, I apologize for berating you my friend but I don't understand your unwavering support for a site like this. I'm not a live player for the main reason the action is sooooooo slow and it takes 10 minutes to play a hand. What's your handle on Carbon? I'm sure we've played together.

My handles are in my profile for anyone to see/OPR.

I accept your apology and understand your frustration; I lost several thousand down the UB rabbit hole so I can sympathize fully.....it obviously sucked.

I don't support Carbon without reservation, and think EVERYONE SHOULD BE AWARE OF LONG POSSIBLE cashout times.

I think they are absolutely WRONG for posting a 3-5 week wait, when we all know that isn't true, and furthermore I don't think these waits are all that acceptable if they linger forever.

The question isn't support or criticism of Merge's management right now, rather it's what is a most constructive course to take to keep Merge afloat and paying out.

As far as the SB excuse, lets be honest, it's probably BS...who cares, I just want the site to keep paying people out.

 

[donkcentralFF]

Was talking about him saying he would have legal standing if carbon stuck him for the money.... Not saying it's illegal to play online poker, but in regards to the depositing/withdrawal of money it obviously is or these sites wouldn't have all these different names for each transaction..

By the way the Superbowl should have no bearing on my cashout. The problem here could be that Carbon is in the Booking business and that bothers me.

You chose to play on this site knowing that... If you want fast cashouts bovada is ur most reliable option

Last I checked, I didn't have to declare at the deposit window the means by which my funds were obtained.

Chase claims I have 2 haha

 

[S3mper]

Was talking about him saying he would have legal standing if carbon stuck him for the money.... Not saying it's illegal to play online poker, but in regards to the depositing/withdrawal of money it obviously is or these sites wouldn't have all these different names for each transaction..

Lock poker took millions of player funds and they aren't in any legal trouble with the US government. UB/AP stiffed players and I don't think they got in any legal trouble with the US government.

 

[donkcentralFF]

Lock poker took millions of player funds and they aren't in any legal trouble with the US government. UB/AP stiffed players and I don't think they got in any legal trouble with the US government.

Yes this is all I was trying to make clear for jackoff

 

[Jackmayhofer]

Actually Carbon didn't have the book when I joined and honestly they have paid out on time before this one. In reply to A2345Razz you misunderstood. I contacted support approximately 5 weeks and 1 day originally and I contacted them today by chat 2 days away from 10 weeks.Believe me I hope they pay but I don't like to be dicked around when it comes to my money and if possible keep my roll @ 2500 at all times. Learned my lesson but I honestly did not know Carbon has had problems since I've been there the past 3 years.

zaxx19 I did look you up and I hope you do accept my sincerest apologies. I don' like to berate small grinders like yourself. Been there before, just keep playing steady. There are ups and downs. I've seen it all. Getting a casino in my hometown in upstate NY in ab out a year and I'm sure I won"t be able to resist grinding on a Friday night sometime.
As for Donkcentral you got it right Jack Me Off. You're brilliant.It's from a prank call from Howard Stern. It was to Bill O'Reilly he says on the line Jack Mayhofer. Only a Stern fan would get that so I don't expect a guy who can't cash a check to.My name is right here anyone is welcome to look me up on OPR. Play tourneys and sit and go/cash Omaha 8

 

[donkcentralFF]

Its alright bud I blew $5000 in 12 hours last week if Carbon does it pay u... U have 2 move on with your life and not go off on personal attacks because a unregulated poker site might not pay u... It will be ok jack

I have doctor diagnosed money allergies so when my bank sticks me or I blow 20000 (in profits) online in the last 8 months I hold my head up high and take more medication..

 

[A2345Razz]

Actually Carbon didn't have the book when I joined and honestly they have paid out on time before this one. In reply to A2345Razz you misunderstood. I contacted support approximately 5 weeks and 1 day originally and I contacted them today by chat 2 days away from 10 weeks.Believe me I hope they pay but I don't like to be dicked around when it comes to my money and if possible keep my roll @ 2500 at all times. Learned my lesson but I honestly did not know Carbon has had problems since I've been there the past 3 years.

zaxx19 I did look you up and I hope you do accept my sincerest apologies. I don' like to berate small grinders like yourself. Been there before, just keep playing steady. There are ups and downs. I've seen it all. Getting a casino in my hometown in upstate NY in ab out a year and I'm sure I won"t be able to resist grinding on a Friday night sometime.
As for Donkcentral you got it right Jack Me Off. You're brilliant.It's from a prank call from Howard Stern. It was to Bill O'Reilly he says on the line Jack Mayhofer. Only a Stern fan would get that so I don't expect a guy who can't cash a check to.My name is right here anyone is welcome to look me up on OPR. Play tourneys and sit and go/cash Omaha 8

I am hardly a grinder, and i've played as high as 5/10 live....but anyway.

I don't consider online poker a real money making thing for me post BF; it's more dicking around keeping my skills somewhat decent and waiting for it to be legalized. For those who take it a bit more seriously, CAVEAT EMPTOR...you can lose your whole roll at any point and there won't be a thing you can do about it or expect to be done.

 

[Poker Orifice]

Wouldn't be surprised if your cashout gets shuffled to the bottom of the pile... just for bein' such a Jagoff

 

[Towerflower]

Carbonpoly $$

We're saying cashouts are ongoing, and to say that they aren't is basically going to produce a run on the bank scenario where Carbon inevitably goes down and people like you and me don't get paid and don't have Carbon to play on.

Why? All player funds are segregated, or not?

Or is it a Ponzi scheme which pays withdrawals with incoming deposits?

In this case Carbon would indeed going down if the requested withdrawals are higher than the incoming deposits.

It's only a question of time now...

 

[S3mper]

Why? All player funds are segregated, or not?

Or is it a Ponzi scheme which pays withdrawals with incoming deposits?

In this case Carbon would indeed going down if the requested withdrawals are higher than the incoming deposits.

It's only a question of time now...

Just because a poker site doesn't have the money (not saying this is the case here) doesn't mean they used or touched player funds. What can happen is things such as overlays will make it so the sites can't pay out.

 

[A2345Razz]

Why? All player funds are segregated, or not?

Or is it a Ponzi scheme which pays withdrawals with incoming deposits?

In this case Carbon would indeed going down if the requested withdrawals are higher than the incoming deposits.

It's only a question of time now...

Lol, this is 2015, and we're playing on grey market sites that aren't regulated. I wouldn't assume any of our money is being kept safe and secure in iron clad segregated accounts, in fact if you think that, you're quite insane.

Guys, any money you have on US facing sites that operate in states where online gaming isn't out and out legal right now is money you should ASSUME can be lost at any points. This goes for Bovada, WPN, Chico...etc. etc.


Nice try though....

 

[Towerflower]

Carbonpoly $$

Lol, this is 2015, and we're playing on grey market sites that aren't regulated. I wouldn't assume any of our money is being kept safe and secure in iron clad segregated accounts, in fact if you think that, you're quite insane.

While I don't think that player funds are segregated, as a company would usually never let it come to continuously delayed withdrawals, if they have the money, theoretically they should be segregated, or not?

I was at least not able to find anything in their terms of service, stating that my deposit is a credit or that I give them my permission to use my deposit for whatever they want.

Guys, any money you have on US facing sites that operate in states where online gaming isn't out and out legal right now is money you should ASSUME can be lost at any points. This goes for Bovada, WPN, Chico...etc. etc..

Fair enough...

 

[sprocketdog]

I cash out the last friday of every month. My money is in my checking account on the following Thurs. 6 days, Cash in hand. AT BOVADA,
How stupid to you have to be, to accept how Carbon pays out. Its mind blowing that people find it Okay to wait months for winnings.

 

[VinnyStrat]

Just because a poker site doesn't have the money (not saying this is the case here) doesn't mean they used or touched player funds. What can happen is things such as overlays will make it so the sites can't pay out.

Overlays that aren't covered by re-buys, add-ons, rake etc. is exactly like using player funds. If they don't have cash on hand (or other liquid assets) to cover all of the players balances the are essentially insolvent.

 

[A2345Razz]

There was a huge payout of overdue payouts several days ago by Merge.

You can search on 2 plus 2 for the thread, but I last time I linked a thread from that site people seemed to be mad on CC, so that's up to you and 8 seconds of work on Google.

If they didn't have any money or were taking the money and running, I doubt they would have paid out so many max cashouts.

Still the criticism for long waits and misleading approximate cashout times on their site/client is totally warranted.

OTOH, claims that Merge money is "monopoly money" and that Merge is going under are now beyond indefensible....and actually dangerous to the community, including myself, who has money on the site.

Look, Merge cashouts are the worst of all the major US facing sites, absolutely. If they don't do something rectify the situation soon, they'll continue to shrink and eventually go out of business. OTOH, they offer great software, a very good MTT schedule and their MTT series have great offerings and GTD's. It be a shame for the site to go out of business, IF it can get those payout times back under 2 months towards the 4-6 week range.

 

[jayrock334]

It seems that Carbon is paying people out but it is taking forever i hope they can integrate a bitcoin wallet into their software

 

[S3mper]

Overlays that aren't covered by re-buys, add-ons, rake etc. is exactly like using player funds. If they don't have cash on hand (or other liquid assets) to cover all of the players balances the are essentially insolvent.

It's not exactly like using player funds. It has around the same outcome. Using player funds would actually have a worse outcome.

Both are unacceptable either way.