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ayo
Rock Star
Silver Level
Thank you for your answer. I should get more información about this. I understand I can play póker online but how about money. I think my country ( Bolivia) is really far to even talk about this kind of laws.
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Nikita Averyanov
Enthusiast
Silver Level
I think that prohibit poker itself is not at all make any sense. Whatever it was, live or online poker. People like it. People make money on it. And as well as ordinary citizens pay taxes.
Authorities do not realize that if they ban poker or other gambling games, it will open a lot of illegal and clandestine casinos. So it was, is and will be always!
Authorities do not realize that if they ban poker or other gambling games, it will open a lot of illegal and clandestine casinos. So it was, is and will be always!
dj11
Legend
Silver Level
One can only guess that Sheldon THINKS he can benefit from a country wide ban. I can't see that logic at all, and I've tried to figure out why anyone would want to ban OLP.
There are a few moral objections that come up, like the addictive aspect of any gaming. But those could be easily dealt with. Underage game play?, again, easily addressed.
Sheldon seems to think (perhaps) that OLP will bite into some profit machine he thinks he owns. All indications suggest that poker is the least profitable game a Casino offers. From a real estate POV, considering how much $$ can be made per square foot, poker is at the bottom of the list. Might even be below the cost of providing a free buffet!
MikeCarasone
Legend
Platinum Level
When do you think pokerstars will likely be back in the USA where we can play against the rest of the world? One state isn't gonna motivate anyone to relocate.
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Streethawk71
Enthusiast
Silver Level
We're lucky in the UK to have well regulated and freely available online gambling - it isn't recognised as a game of skill either making winnings tax-free 
There are social issues that remain unaddressed though, as sports and casino betting outstrips poker rooms many times over. But these issues are nothing near those presented by alcohol sales (and no politician will dare go near that one, too many British booze addicts at all social levels)
Now that USA has a regulated and available weed supply, it's actually making itself attractive to lots of people Of course the guns still put lots of people off...
There are social issues that remain unaddressed though, as sports and casino betting outstrips poker rooms many times over. But these issues are nothing near those presented by alcohol sales (and no politician will dare go near that one, too many British booze addicts at all social levels)
Now that USA has a regulated and available weed supply, it's actually making itself attractive to lots of people
Of course the guns still put lots of people off...
ayo
Rock Star
Silver Level
Thanks for your comment . I t was very informative and interesting. Keep playing.We're lucky in the UK to have well regulated and freely available online gambling - it isn't recognised as a game of skill either making winnings tax-free
There are social issues that remain unaddressed though, as sports and casino betting outstrips poker rooms many times over. But these issues are nothing near those presented by alcohol sales (and no politician will dare go near that one, too many British booze addicts at all social levels)
Now that USA has a regulated and available weed supply, it's actually making itself attractive to lots of people
alejandro huerta
Enthusiast
Silver Level
It is a long process because in most countries this prohibilo gambling as governments put many obstacles to it. So I see too long prcoeso; a while ago I heard legalize the game live here in mexico but would block all online poker rooms, the truth is not that stay the resolution of this law and I think it has not advanced as they are not a given neither resolution.
dj11
Legend
Silver Level
I am one of those who think that Casino's would NOT take a hit from an active OLP. Instead I think they would benefit from a more active, and larger poker community.
An idea I have liked since I first saw it is that withdrawals and deposits could be made at any B&M cardroom. This notion shows up in some legislative proposals, but is usually removed in revisions. That's a shame cuz it would benefit both ends of the poker spectrum. From the B&M pov they should love the idea of poker players walking into their casino's and at some point having a was of cash at their disposal. Either before they deposit, or after they withdraw.
Then there could be the local connection with satelites to live events. Another win for the Live Card Rooms.
Here in California, where we have a generally healthly live poker environment, most people live within a 40 mile drive of a casino or card room.
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Whether casinos will take a hit or not, there is no reason to stop people from playing Poker. People can play other gambling games and then there is the argument that poker is a game of skill.
But denying online poker is a denial of freedom and choice
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MidMoMan
Visionary
Silver Level
The above plan seems to make sense both from a oversight and casino perspective. Have you heard of any consideration by casinos for this plan?
dj11
Legend
Silver Level
A legislator in Ca. Adam Gray, had it in his original OLP proposals. I am not sure who or how it got removed.
I have had opportunities to talk to semi-official (tourney directors, who probably are NOT authorized to speak for management) personnel at both the Bicycle Casino, and Hawaiian Gardens, both were as enthusiastic as we are about legitimizing OLP. These are floor folks, who understand things from a way different perspective. They could see it would be mutually beneficial for the casinos to help money movement to/from OLP sites for the very reason I stated above. At those 2 cardrooms, the powers that be are greatly in favor of legislation, even the reluctant Tribes are in favor. However, there is the rub. The Tribes think they can have much greater power and control because of their notion they are special. They keep insisting that Stars be prohibited due to them once being 'Bad Actors'.
Alas, these floor folks are not the vested interested folks who will be doing the deciding.
When Nevada started their 'legitimization' there were cardrooms that would facilitate the deposit and withdrawal process. I am not in Ne, so I don't know where that stands these days.
dj11
Legend
Silver Level
Why would you play real $$ if you couldn't recover your winnings?
The whole state of Nevada is geared toward gambling as entertainment, not so much as gambling as a way of living.
Micro Maven
Rock Star
Silver Level
https://www.cardschat.com/news/new-york-dfs-bill-passes-governor-andrew-cuomo-signs-law-28919
They think DFS is more skill than luck? Yet the guys who win these things have to enter dozens or even hundreds of lineups each tournament. Imagine if you had to bust Dan Coleman 50 times each time you entered a tournament.
They think DFS is more skill than luck? Yet the guys who win these things have to enter dozens or even hundreds of lineups each tournament. Imagine if you had to bust Dan Coleman 50 times each time you entered a tournament.
dj11
Legend
Silver Level
If they were to follow through with that same logic, then betting on the outcome of a poker tourney, would also be legal.
The really weird thing is that the original resistance to poker, long long ago (late 1800's maybe?), was that there were sharks out there and what could the fish do? In this case the sharks were the very skilled, full time poker players. Somehow that resistance morphed into a morals issue, which then morphed into laws. Somewhere in there the lie was told, and then believed, that poker is less skill than luck.
With DFS, and the way NY did it, it is probably going to be very rake heavy, and the State will benefit.
