Can you progress in poker without betting real money?

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Hi,
I am not a good poker player, but I like the game and want to get better at it. Currently I am playing on free poker apps like WSOP that don't require you to stake actual money, as I just know that I'll probably be a fish as soon as I start playing online tables that bet real money. However, I am noticing that these games are not very satisfying, with there almost always being players that just go all-in preflop and then just buy back in. Is it a realistic goal to try and get good at poker without betting real money, or is it necessary to bet real money to get proper practice as people are actually playing with something to lose? Also curious as to what people think on what the balance should be between studying poker theory, such as calculating outs and pot odds, versus just playing the game to get better.
Unfortunately, poker is a real money game. Playing in freerolls and at low limits, you can learn the principles, strategy and tactics of poker. Study the strength of hands preflop and postflop. Quickly calculate weak and strong players. But no more. Maniacs simply will not let you master your game, as they almost always go to the end. You'll often see the river and a lot of trash-handed moves. On the positive side, by playing carefully in the freerolls you can build up a decent bankroll even without being a very strong player and move up to higher limits. This does not mean that maniacs will disappear completely, but in percentage terms they will become much less. The game will become more meaningful and will require real skill, the criterion of which is how much you play in the plus.
 
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I think you can only play freerolls
 
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If there is motivation, then you can play for play money.
 
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I've tried it before too and I see the problem in play money is that you don't really learn how to deal with losses. But this is exactly an important factor in real money poker. Only when it no longer hurts you to lose money can you develop in it. Bad players exist in both sides.
 
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Hi,

I think playmoney games can be quite different from real money games. In the first case, a lot of people often don't care a our their chips since those are free and they get some every X hours.

If you do not want to make a deposit, I would recommend to play freerolls until you earned a bit to play buy-in games. One important aspect to consider is some bankroll management to not bust the hard earned money.

CardsChat offers many freerolls in various poker rooms. So feel free to check them out. ☺️

For the study part of your question, I don't have a good answer, since I am often too lazy to study. 😅

But probably in the beginning something like 50/50 can't do any bad.

Hope that helps.

Good luck!
Cardschat does not seem to offer freerolls at ACR--am I missing something?
 
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If you want to do play money and see some real money like competition I have had some --it is found in sit and goes at the governor of poker 3 App
 
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Of course, every time you practice you improve a little bit.
 
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i think you can learn the basic with freerolls or no-real money, but if you really want to learn and expand your game you need to play real money.
 
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Hi, let me tell you a little from my experience. In April of this year, I started playing freerolls and some of the cheapest tournaments, I basically set a goal not to deposit a single penny of real money - as a result, for August I withdrew a total of $ 200 ( with a lot of lucky coincidence + good freeroll tournaments) to my wife for little things and I have about 30 on different rooms for further play. So I can answer for myself - it's real to play micro-limit poker without making a deposit! Good luck in your endeavors!
 
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Hi,
I am not a good poker player, but I like the game and want to get better at it. Currently I am playing on free poker apps like WSOP that don't require you to stake actual money, as I just know that I'll probably be a fish as soon as I start playing online tables that bet real money. However, I am noticing that these games are not very satisfying, with there almost always being players that just go all-in preflop and then just buy back in. Is it a realistic goal to try and get good at poker without betting real money, or is it necessary to bet real money to get proper practice as people are actually playing with something to lose? Also curious as to what people think on what the balance should be between studying poker theory, such as calculating outs and pot odds, versus just playing the game to get better.
And I'll add - even in tournaments for 3-5 dollars, people play terribly and, as you said, sometimes there is simply no feeling that they have something to lose:D
 
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Я начинаю играть в онлайн-столы со ставками на реальные деньги. Однако я замечаю, что эти игры не очень приносят удовлетворения, поскольку почти всегда есть игроки, которые просто идут олл-ин на префлопе, а затем просто откупаются. Реальна ли цель попытаться добиться успеха в покере, не делая ставок на реальные деньги? или необходимо делать ставки на реальные деньги, чтобы получить надлежащую практику, поскольку люди на самом деле играют, чтобы что-то потерять? Также любопытно, что люди думают о том, какой баланс должен быть между изучением теории покера, например расчета аутов и шансов банка, и просто игрой в игру, чтобы получить
There must be a balance, theory must be taught, and practice helps to consolidate this material. Over time, you will notice how you calculate acts during the game, although at first it's difficult (because it's distracting), as well as with bank chances and other math - all this is necessary and that's fine! Just don't divide it - poker, like many things in life, must be considered in combination, and psychology plays an important role here. Good luck at the tables!
 
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You can use play money games to learn the basic concepts - but no you won't really progress your skills much at all playing with players who have nothing vested in the game.
 
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Hi,
I am not a good poker player, but I like the game and want to get better at it. Currently I am playing on free poker apps like WSOP that don't require you to stake actual money, as I just know that I'll probably be a fish as soon as I start playing online tables that bet real money. However, I am noticing that these games are not very satisfying, with there almost always being players that just go all-in preflop and then just buy back in. Is it a realistic goal to try and get good at poker without betting real money, or is it necessary to bet real money to get proper practice as people are actually playing with something to lose? Also curious as to what people think on what the balance should be between studying poker theory, such as calculating outs and pot odds, versus just playing the game to get better.
Learning this game is easy. Progressing into a $ making entity is going to take some studying of the game and some time on the felt, virtual or otherwise, especially in today's "poker climate" where the fish are fewer and fewer because of all of the books, strategy guides, vids, etc. I know that there is PLENTY of material here at the forum to get you or anyone going in the right direction.
Playing in some play trnys can be fun, especially if you're just trying to get used to a site's HUD for the first time. I would recommend playing in some freerolls to get used to playing for real $, tho. It might not be much at first, but you'll see who's playing what and how and all of that razz... GL man. :) (y)
 
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I was also starting with free poker and from my experience i dont think u can really learn anything other then the stregth of the different hands cause people just dont care at all and will never fold to any of the bluff u could try to pull.
 
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I agree with Debi. Play money games can be used to learn basic concepts like hand rankings and reading boards. But when it comes to learning strategy you need to get into real money games. Even in online microstakes games there are still serious players AKA "regs", and this is something, which you just dont find in play money games. Or at least not in any kind of signifcant numbers. I personally wasted a lot of time on play money games, because I had made some moral decision "not to gamble for real money". But given that you can play SnGs on pokerstars for as little as $0,25, this was just silly, when I look back at it today. So yes by all means spend a few days or weeks at the play money tables. But then move on and make at least a minimum deposit of $10. The CC freerolls are also a good place to practice, especially if you get platinum status :)
 
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Maybe, I won a lot of money on unibet without depositing a dime
 
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I was also starting with free poker and from my experience i dont think u can really learn anything other then the stregth of the different hands cause people just dont care at all and will never fold to any of the bluff u could try to pull.
You can, I won a lot of money on unibet without depositing a dime, but you have to play bigger tournaments when you win some money and pray
 
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For beginners who are learning to play, yes, but for you want to evolve more, I don't think so.
 
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U really need money otherwise its just luck.
 
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There is a big difference between play money poker and real money poker especially as you move up in stakes play money has a lot of people that go all in all the time because they don't care its not real money
 
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Yes you can by winning freerolls to different tournaments or cash games then you can start to play with cash after winning freerolls.
 
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I don’t think so. Real money the opponent has the risk to lose something
 
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