As amateur players we tend to think that with AA we are invincible. And we have seen, especially at online tables, that AA does not guarantee anything. Many times you win with AA, but many times you also lose. Do you think that the chances of winning with AA in online poker decrease?

With AA we are not invincible, but the probability of winning is very high, just don't let the other players play and see the card is all in one. It is my experience if you let them see cards they get stronger that's where luck comes (40%) after giving the all in.

I have lost count losing with AA, but it is not to be discouraged you win more times than you lose.

as Doyle Brunson said: With aces we win a lot of small pots and often lose big pots). Aces are the best starting hand, but nobody canceled the flop, turn and river).

We tend to remember the times our Aces got beat, but dismiss the times we won with them because it was supposed to happen.

Preflop AA is 80% favorite, but by the river, AA is just a pair.

AA is better vs 1 or 2 players. Against 7 or 8 players it's probably around a 20-25% favorite.

I think it can only seem that you lose AA more times because there are a lot more hands and AA gets more times. In addition, players are also weaker at particularly low stakes, so maybe they will hit the AA more than once because their chances of winning are already reduced against 3-4 people.

No I dont think it loses any more than live, but as way more hands are played online you are going to see them both win and lose more as well. We seem to forget the winning ones though, the losing ones stay with us for a minute.

We need to make them throw it off

I don't think so. At all, there is no hand in poker, which guarantee something. There are good and bad starting hands and after that you can loose with every hand. Try not to think so on loosing with AA, I have seen that many people are focused and get nervous when they loose with AA as they thought that guarantee the winning of the hand. The best decision is to deal with the fact that AA can not guarantee anything.

Of course it is not less (or more) likely to win online. Imo people think that because they are playing much more hands online, so they get much more bad beats. And our brain often like to remember hands when we had no luck more than hands we had it

Originally Posted by eluwinka0

Of course it is not less (or more) likely to win online. Imo people think that because they are playing much more hands online, so they get much more bad beats. And our brain often like to remember hands when we had no luck more than hands we had it

True , you play more hands online and that's for you get more bad beats with AA , and people thinks you lose more with AA online , but it's not true at all , u just get more times dealt AA and its normal to lose more times with them then a live game when u get dealt once in a while AA .

No. There are still 52 cards in the deck, and the likelyhood of each of them hitting is the same live or online.

I would say it’s more likely to win online live. In live, you have more callers.

Of course AA is not invincible, and is the same whether playing on line or live. I think some players are greedy and rather than winning a small pot by going all in pre flop, they see the flop and let other players increase the value of their hands and can lose.

No. The more players in the hand the less advantage.

Yall gotta remember that the game you buy into plays a big part in the amount of variance. Poker isnt just about the hand in front of you. I know from experience How frustrating it can be to lose with big pairs to ppl who call way to often. Keep playing your game and maybe try not to get it all in pre too often with aces. Try limping or calling once in a while dont always shove with aces.

online poker is very different from real life poker . online the cards dont fall correctly (and no nobody can change my mind on this) like in real life poker . in real life your aces will hold most of the time against 1-2 opponents . online I cant count how often my AA KK QQ have been cracked (and no it is not because of "muh more hands played online ) . while we talk about it ....today I was busted from a tournament with AA against AKo (all in preflop)

Originally Posted by scrappypower

AA IS HARD TO PLAY PRE

Yes, AA is harder to play preflop than 27 off suit.

If you have trouble playing AA preflop, just bet the largest amount you think will get called by one player. If you think someone will call an all in, bet that. If you think they will all fold to a 3X bet, try 2.5X.

As the quality of your opponents goes up, you will want to disguise your hand by always leading the same (in like conditions). You don't want the villain knowing if you are raising with AA or 78 suited.

The most common winning hand in poker is two pair plus. In this crazy game of poker with extreme variance any two cards can win. Be careful at times and don't get married to your hand.

Less likely to win? No. However you will see it happen much more often online then live. The reason is because live poker is extremely slow. On average you're likely to play about 40 or 50 hands per hour sitting at the casino whereas online you can easily play 300 or 400 hands over that same amount of time. For example say you lose with pocket aces once every one thousand hands. That would mean that it occurs roughly once every 20 or 30 hours you play live compared to online where it would happen approx once every 2.5 of 3 hours

4 out of 5 times you win with Hand Aces. But online there are a lot of people throwing money, so you face any card, and apparently, the software likes to break the Aces.

It's the same change in live and online too.
In online you see them many times because you play more hands

No, it s gonna be just the same. You will just see Aces lose more often, beacuse play more and therefore you see AA more often and you see it lose. You also see it win more often though. But thats what you are less likely to remember.

Hi. if online and especially in low-entry or micro-limit tournaments you have no guarantee of winning. Online, it's happened to me having AA and losing to 4-2 off multiple times. and live is not something else there the players hardly go all in with 4-2 off. and online they do it all the time with those hands.

It is more likely to lose with AA online! Reason being in freeroll tournaments and micro cash games the players will call with any two cards and the more the callers the less chance AA has to win!

Players that play live are not going to call an all in with the bad starting hands!

I think that in online poker you will lose more with AA in micro stakes because there are a lot of crazy players that can call a big raise with almost anything. So it's common play with AA against more than one villain. This decrease your odds for sure.

The best Texas Holdém hand needs aggression, but be prepared to fold it if they beat you.

Originally Posted by MauroMMMM

As amateur players we tend to think that with AA we are invincible. And we have seen, especially at online tables, that AA does not guarantee anything. Many times you win with AA, but many times you also lose. Do you think that the chances of winning with AA in online poker decrease?

They are a favorite to win, however if playing on a wet board and you are OOP, then I normally check and fold to a bet if multiple opponents...as the saying goes you may win a little or lose a lot. These types of boards will make you lose a lot, as so many other people connect with a wet board. I prefer to have A's in late position or in the blinds as it gives opportunity to 3/4 bet to thin the field to 1 opponent or take the pot right there.

Yes. But, solo 80% of win.

Originally Posted by Baldy86

online poker is very different from real life poker . online the cards dont fall correctly (and no nobody can change my mind on this) like in real life poker . in real life your aces will hold most of the time against 1-2 opponents . online I cant count how often my AA KK QQ have been cracked (and no it is not because of "muh more hands played online ) . while we talk about it ....today I was busted from a tournament with AA against AKo (all in preflop)

well, it exactly is because more hands are played online.

try this at home. deal yourself aa and give your opponent any hand. lets say k7s. shuffle the deck and deal out the flop, turn, river. record who wins. now do this 100x, then 1000x, then 10,000x.

how many times did your aces get cracked? is it a lot more times when you tried this scenario 10k times than when you tried it 100 times?

hmmmm...i wonder why that is.

Originally Posted by ohshootmybad

well, it exactly is because more hands are played online.

try this at home. deal yourself aa and give your opponent any hand. lets say k7s. shuffle the deck and deal out the flop, turn, river. record who wins. now do this 100x, then 1000x, then 10,000x.

how many times did your aces get cracked? is it a lot more times when you tried this scenario 10k times than when you tried it 100 times?

hmmmm...i wonder why that is.

the "more hands online" argument doesnt make sense

I have played a lot of hands in real life and the cards in online poker dont fall the way they do as in real life poker

you can play 100000 hands in real life and you will still see the difference to online poker

I am 1000000% sure that online the cards dont fall realistically and that either the rng is bad and can not replace a real life deck OR it is rigged for action . I have played online poker for 10 years now . I also always tried to argue that it is not rigged and was coping the whole time ....also with the "more hands online " , "I just need to improve my game" etc. etc. . but no ....it is how it is ...it is rigged

and the lulziest thing is that the sites are often rigged in their own specific way ...meaning that the way the cards fall on Site_A is different to how they fall on Site_B etc. . lol

you are free to think otherwise of course .

I dont play live games, but I heard a lot of stories from players about lost AA and they were playing only live poker, so I guess that it happen with the same probability

I saw today around 10 AA`s and all of them lost, but it means nothing, just such sample
In reality you see more games online than from live, so you remember more loses with AA and start to think that it happens more often, which isn`t really truth

On line you probably have less chance of winning with AA because there are so many players that they would have no shot a winning with under normal conditions. They just play like somebody playing the VLT machines ………. shove yojur money in and let her go for broke and hope that you win.

no, they do not decrease, I think that when playing you have to reduce the number of players who enter to see the flop, the more players enter to see the hand, the more chances of losing you will have

I think same chances, the reason for the frequent losses is that online players are often more aggressive and open trash hands.

As long as you're playing on a reputable site the cards should play out the same online as they do live. I think what happens though is players online have a tendency to overplay pocket aces much more than they do live.

I feel as a whole, I am "luckier" when playing in person. It is like others have mentioned easier to remember the times you lost with AA. When push comes to shove, I will take them. lol

I lose almost every hand with aces

Hand are faster and you play more that's why you can lose more. Also in online there is no emotion seen

I think AA is good anywhere

As once Sklansky said: “I mean, I’ve been playing for quite awhile, and when I write a book, I do a good amount of research, lots of statistical analysis, all that stuff. I was pretty darn sure AA was a good hand, the best hand in fact… but after hearing MRTILTY’s comments … I just want to say I’m sorry for misleading everyone. I just … I didn’t know.”

When AA comes to me, my mood rises, I won more with them than I lost.

AA is the strongest pair. Therefore, it´s the most valuable on pre-flop.

Originally Posted by tomk7788

AA is better vs 1 or 2 players. Against 7 or 8 players it's probably around a 20-25% favorite.

I think this is the reason AA has such a bad perception online. You click one button to shove your stack, as opposed to live poker where you have to count it out and manually declare "all in." So when you shove with AA, it doesn't feel as great online because people don't feel the magnitude of the moment.

When multiple players are shoving their stacks online, AA gets less likely to win. You still have to ship it (because you have better odds than anyone else in the pot), but they're not invincible. I think AA loses 20% the time at least. It just feels worse because you think you *should* be winning those flips. Bless the variance.

Hello. I would say no., AA has the same odds in both scenarios.

AA has an 86% chance of winning heads up. No matter what position I am in I will bet at least 3 1/2X the big blinds preflop. I will bet at least 2 1/2X a preflop raise from a player in an earlier position. I want to be able to isolate the hand down a single player to give yourself the best chance to win. I also want to be able to give myself a chance to be able to bail out whenever I feel that I have been beaten.

Slow playing aces can be a huge mistake sometimes. I will only do it if there is the occasional fish that plays pretty much every hand.

It may feel like AA gets beaten more online, but you are playing more hands in an hour than you are in a live game. The mathematics are still always going to be the same.

AA has the same equity live or online.

you have big chance to win with AA , if you are not me i lost every hand when i got AA