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loomis311
Rock Star
JusSumguy
Chipmonger
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"One thing I love about our show, is that FINALLY there is a rule in place where you can't hide like a chicken behind sunglasses! I swear every TV producer should ban sunglasses entirely from any televised event. They are so bad for poker on so many levels. Poker wouldn't be on TV if everyone wore hoodies and sunglasses to hide their eyes.
I'm so happy when I see online guys like Tom Dwan, Patrik Antonius, and Phil Galfond man up by not hiding behind shades. The majority of the best players in the world DO NOT wear sunglasses. One of the biggest differences between live and online poker is the ability to see your opponent. Eyes and all. Doyle Brunson doesn't wear shades. Phil Ivey doesn't wear shades.
If anyone wants to start a petition to ban them in any form of poker whether it's tournaments, cash games, or televised events I'd do whatever I could to help. If you wanna wear shades when you play online, go for it! If you wanna play on The PokerStars.Net The Big Game then you'll just have to man up and take those silly things off! There are other key reasons why sunglasses should absolutely be banned at a poker table, but I won't get into that.
Let's just say that guys like Russ Hamilton would appose such a ban. I heard Durr say it on High Stakes Poker last week and he is absolutely right. You should always be uncomfortable playing high stakes poker against someone wearing sunglasses. I'm not making this up, it's just a fact. Banning sunglasses helps to protect the integrity of the game against cheating. For that reason alone, they should be completely outlawed from poker. No other sport or organization would allow competitors a device that makes it easier for them to get away with cheating." ~ Daniel Negreanu
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"One thing I love about our show, is that FINALLY there is a rule in place where you can't hide like a chicken behind sunglasses! I swear every TV producer should ban sunglasses entirely from any televised event. They are so bad for poker on so many levels. Poker wouldn't be on TV if everyone wore hoodies and sunglasses to hide their eyes.
I'm so happy when I see online guys like Tom Dwan, Patrik Antonius, and Phil Galfond man up by not hiding behind shades. The majority of the best players in the world DO NOT wear sunglasses. One of the biggest differences between live and online poker is the ability to see your opponent. Eyes and all. Doyle Brunson doesn't wear shades. Phil Ivey doesn't wear shades.
If anyone wants to start a petition to ban them in any form of poker whether it's tournaments, cash games, or televised events I'd do whatever I could to help. If you wanna wear shades when you play online, go for it! If you wanna play on The PokerStars.Net The Big Game then you'll just have to man up and take those silly things off! There are other key reasons why sunglasses should absolutely be banned at a poker table, but I won't get into that.
Let's just say that guys like Russ Hamilton would appose such a ban. I heard Durr say it on High Stakes Poker last week and he is absolutely right. You should always be uncomfortable playing high stakes poker against someone wearing sunglasses. I'm not making this up, it's just a fact. Banning sunglasses helps to protect the integrity of the game against cheating. For that reason alone, they should be completely outlawed from poker. No other sport or organization would allow competitors a device that makes it easier for them to get away with cheating." ~ Daniel Negreanu
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Jdawg0913
Rock Star
Itching sunglasses and hoodies should be banned. It takes an element of the game away. No I am not super old. I am 29 and have been playing since I was 18. Even then, I did not wear them. It's a people game and should eliminate anything that assists in hiding. My two cents.
Vfranks
Legend
Interesting. I wouldn't mind if they were banned all together. In the summer I tend to wear sunglasses outside and just happen to have them on the top of my head when I play poker, so somtimes wear them at the table. Most of the time I don't, but if another player at the table has on sunglasses, then I tend to put them on as well. I've noticed that it doesn't matter either way though, and without sunglasses you can make it look like you have a tell when you don't.
I do sometimes wonder when people have glasses on if they are cheating with that card marking stuff, which is what Daniel is referring to I assume. I tend to think that more of people with normal glasses though, as opposed to sunglasses though. If people wanted to cheat that way I'd think they would want to look as inconspicuous as possible, and maybe even just use contacts with that special lens if even possible?
So if you banned sunglasses to protect the integrity of the game ,would you also have to provide proof that you should be wearing non sunglasses for reading/farsighted/near sightedness as well? Also then again we come to the contacts issue, again if it is even possible.
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Nickwastaken
Rock Star
eyes are the windows to the soul; i agree... i would wear my aunglasses playing pokerstars at home if i jnew where they were right now
but i would also wear my sunglasses at night.....
i have really nice ray bans, if it makes it any less weird... i would wear them only, naked, every day if i could..... which, since i started my new career from bed (naked, no, not porn; poker) i may actually be onto something here...
WVHillbilly
Legend
That's a line from Kenny Roger's song, The Gambler, not an Amarillo Slim quote!
itsmebobd
Enthusiast
I have nothing against someone else wearing them. I wear them sometimes, other times I dont. For the most part at live games people dont see past the fact "I has 2 jacks, how much to call?"... When i'm up against a few of the really good players at the table ill slip em on. I have bad eyesight and am too lazy to go get contacts (refuse to wear glasses) and already have a hard enough time not being able to see the cards. A good way to prevent cheating would be to say "oh those are cool can I see them?", if they act weird about it, be suspect :/
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Nickwastaken
Rock Star
ill take this one step further;
if you now what theyre looking for, you can show them what you want them to think. if they think one thing that they see (and you have the opposite of what they "see" because its what you show...) then you can play them into terrible position... or better yet, make them play themselves into that position...
sometimes the best money earned is money willingly entered into the pot
.. sometimes its better to force it.... but if people rely on reading others rather than playing odds all the time you can definitely hurt them with a fake tell or two
Vfranks
Legend
Yeah when I first started playing live, people would say I had physical tells.. so I would do this.ill take this one step further;
if you now what theyre looking for, you can show them what you want them to think. if they think one thing that they see (and you have the opposite of what they "see" because its what you show...) then you can play them into terrible position... or better yet, make them play themselves into that position...
sometimes the best money earned is money willingly entered into the pot
LeanAndMean
Legend
I have glaucoma, and my eyes are extremely sensitive to light. I have been at some tables where the light was so bright I had to wear my sunglasses. But to wear them because you think it is "cool" or think it makes you look like a pro I think is stupid.
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dasher
Enthusiast
Keep in mind that the original quote was self-interest. This is coming from one of the all time great people readers. Of course Daniel doesn't want his opponents wearing glasses, hiding a read hurts him more than anyone else.
My father wore his sunglasses all the time, including the poker table. He was a photographer and spent most of his day in the darkroom. So his eyes were very sensitive.
Most of the time, I wear a hat or cap when I'm playing live. I have expressive eyes and I don't want the tension of constantly worrying that I'm giving something away. I can still look up at people and make eye contact, but when I look down to see my hole cards, I'm protected.
My father wore his sunglasses all the time, including the poker table. He was a photographer and spent most of his day in the darkroom. So his eyes were very sensitive.
Most of the time, I wear a hat or cap when I'm playing live. I have expressive eyes and I don't want the tension of constantly worrying that I'm giving something away. I can still look up at people and make eye contact, but when I look down to see my hole cards, I'm protected.
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ThePioneer
Rising Star
The eyes are one of the biggest tells in poker (and for emotions in general). The biggest reason people have for wanting glasses banned at the poker table is advantage. They can't see their opponent's eyes, thus turning the advantage slightly away from them. When you hide your eyes, you are hiding some emotion. When you hide emotion, your tells are less obvious. Period. Negreanu isn't worried about cheating; he's worried about playing scared against someone wearing glasses. "The majority of the best players in the world don't wear glasses," he says? Wearing glasses makes you a chicken, he says? Not wearing glasses means you man up, he says? Phil Hellmuth (yeah, the 13-time wsop bracelet winner) has worn glasses. Hoyt Corkins wears glasses. Chris Moneymaker, Greg Raymer, Jonathan Little, Annette Obrestad, Scotty Nguyen, Chris Ferguson, Dave Ulliottt, Johnny Chan, Marcel Luske (though upside down), Sam Farha, Stu Unger... I'll just stop here.
Serious poker players who wear glasses don't wear them as a fashion statement (if they do, they need to stop, immediately). They wear them to keep themselves in a comfort zone, knowing a main source of tells is hidden away from their opponents, and many pros do too. TV may have made it cool to wear glasses at the table, but we are in 2014 - the novelty of it is gone. The benefits of it are here to stay.
For those of you that do not wear glasses at the table specifically because they are too dark or give you a headache, check out Blue Shark Optics. They are made specifically for poker, and they have many different styles to choose from.
Serious poker players who wear glasses don't wear them as a fashion statement (if they do, they need to stop, immediately). They wear them to keep themselves in a comfort zone, knowing a main source of tells is hidden away from their opponents, and many pros do too. TV may have made it cool to wear glasses at the table, but we are in 2014 - the novelty of it is gone. The benefits of it are here to stay.
For those of you that do not wear glasses at the table specifically because they are too dark or give you a headache, check out Blue Shark Optics. They are made specifically for poker, and they have many different styles to choose from.
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