What do you think of wearing sunglasses at the table?

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First of all... LOL at the Slim/Kenny Rogers quote conflict. Not laughing at you though, bruh, laughing with you...

Reasons not to wear glasses: Because the cool poker kids think it's douchey. Because DN said so. Because you are mad at money.

Reasons to wear them: Because you don't care what the cool poker kids think. Because you don't care what DN said. Because you like money.

What I said there was pretty sarcastic and filled with bad humor and hyperbole, but most arguments on why not to wear glasses at the table are generally filled with the same kind of "crap." I have had this conversation many times and pretty much the reason people are against it is because, "It's douchey, bro!" The same people consider headphones and hoodies douchey too. Whatever.

Let me tell you why I wear glasses. I have a bit of a light sensitivity problem. It's not an out of control problem, but I do tend to squint a lot when I am around bright light. Hours of this causes headaches. Casino lights aren't the brightest in the world, but they are bright enough for me. In long tournaments (HPT, WSOPc, DSE, MegaS) I have worn them to get me through the day/night. It aided me and helped my eyes to fatigue less.

tells. I know it's super taboo to talk about tells, but they are real. I have a personality type that subconsciously, and very quickly, picks up on tells (ESTP). It comes natural to me, but it can be learned by anyone (just as poker math can be learned). Think micro and macro expressions. If you have never heard of those here is what a quick google search brings up:

http://www.humintell.com/macroexpressions-microexpressions-and-subtle-expressions/

Now generally you need a large sample size to translate micro and macro expressions to get any reliable data, but there is some baseline to work with and there are expressions that serve as a general guideline. Sample size is of course going to involve playing with the same players over numerous hours. I play with the same players and have done so over numerous hours. There is one guy I guarantee I have 2000 hours with, if not more. We've been poker friends for 10+ years. The other people I play with on a regular basis I have around 300 hours or more with. I'd say I have a pretty good sample size and rely partially on tells (don't discount tendencies, math, etc). I have to assume they also rely on tells that I give off. In fact I know they do. I had one friend tell me that when I am about to enter a hand my eyes give off some tells. He is a solid player and I trust his information. That right there should be enough for me to want wear glasses.

The final reason I wear glasses. Because I feel more comfortable, confident, and in control. It's really a personal preference and I could care less if I look like the douche that wears glasses. It's all about how I feel and how I play, not about what someone thinks of me. I do me, you do you. I honestly believe there is some power in feeling comfortable at the table. When I say that I mean the way you dress, how you feel, etc. I like to shower before a session. It makes me feel refreshed and ready to go. I have read some articles that say things like dressing comfortable or showering/washing helps your mindset and kind of resets your whole attitude. Glasses are something that do that for me. If poker is a mental game, why wouldn't I want to do the best thing for my mindset?

Bottom line is this... If you want to wear glasses because you think it will improve your game in any way (mental, tells, etc) then do it. If you don't want to wear glasses then don't. It's really as simple as that. If you want to know discuss any further with me in PM, HMU.

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Got flip-ups for prescription wearers?

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You wear sunglasses to hide your eyes and hide tells that your eyes might show, at the same time observing your opponents.
But I have notion to those wearing sunglasses. They are somewhat saying indirectly, that they know about poker tells or aware about poker tells. By then, I will not show to him any tell at all.
 
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Got flip-ups for prescription wearers?

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I was trying to PM you, but 15 post rule. Sheesh. :D

No, I don't believe so. Too many different lenses that flip ups would be too difficult to make from a logistics POV.
 
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I was trying to PM you, but 15 post rule. Sheesh. :D

No, I don't believe so. Too many different lenses that flip ups would be too difficult to make from a logistics POV.
Half your market... pissed away. :cool:

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It's allowed, so it's ok. It's a way to hide emotions/information and there's no problem with it IMO. I never play live but I always use sunglasses when the sun is shining. Moreover the sport sunglasses are very cool. I have a "rudy project" one with dioptre. :)
 
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Glasses are nice sometimes because it can make people feel more comfortable starring at others knowing they can't see your eyes.

Another benefit (and no I am not advocating cheating) is sometimes if you are looking at your opponents next to you for reads, they might hold their cards up to high and you can see them. They of course need to protect their hand, but it atleast makes it less obvious you looked or notice with shades on.

I use to wear them years ago, now its just me and my shaved head starring people down.
 
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I like wearing them, I mean what ever makes you feel most comfortable with your poker face. Shy people wear a lot of different things on their faces to make them feel better in regular life; hair, sunglasses, hats, so why not at the table. If it makes you feel invisible and helps keep you calm in stressful moments then go for it.
 
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It's funny, most of the amateurs I have played with on live tables who wear them
give off more tells with their bodies, hand and chair movements.
So please let them continue to wear their sunglasses.
That way I don't have to see them cry.

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Sunglasses should really be banned except for cataract patients or whomever may "have" to wear them. Hoodies shouldn't really bother you if they aren't hiding anything by wearing them.
 
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I don't wear them because I have enough trouble seeing my cards as it is lol.
 
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For those of you that do not wear glasses at the table specifically because they are too dark or give you a headache, check out Blue Shark Optics. They are made specifically for poker, and they have many different styles to choose from.

I looked up their site... but all their glasses are very reflective. Aren't you afraid they would show your hole cards?
 
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I looked up their site... but all their glasses are very reflective. Aren't you afraid they would show your hole cards?

They don't - I have sat at the table with players who wear those.
 
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I looked up their site... but all their glasses are very reflective. Aren't you afraid they would show your hole cards?


Unless you are holding the cards in the air and close to your eyes, you won't be able to see anything. They are good to go.
 
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I don't think sunglasses are a big deal. Whenever I see someone wearing glasses I assume that they are trying to look like a poker player (and therefore I expect them to try and make big impressive moves, but not to actually be a real shark) and I also assume that they aren't very good at hiding their emotions. So even with the sunglasses, I watch their body language closely which still gives away plenty of information.

As far as banning hoodies, I would be very upset. I'm always cold in casinos, and if I have my hood up, it's because I'm cold and that keeps the ac breeze off my neck!
 
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well most of the tells I pick up aren't from the face and the tells ive given away aren't either its from the hands so ive decided live im going to wear gloves and long sleeved shirts as well as a baseball cap and sunglasses and a face mask. sometimes as well shaky legs can give of a tell.

not only can long sleeved shirts hide tells but thicker clothes can too.

in order to avoid all this from now people have to be naked at the poker table and fully shaved everywhere no hiding like a pussy be real men.

I guess at least this way it would make the games more profitable since live poker would become more of a gay club and thus many players attention would be elsewhere. at the end of the day its more money and they aren't really a threat because you can always say no.
 
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well most of the tells I pick up aren't from the face and the tells ive given away aren't either its from the hands so ive decided live im going to wear gloves and long sleeved shirts as well as a baseball cap and sunglasses and a face mask. sometimes as well shaky legs can give of a tell.

not only can long sleeved shirts hide tells but thicker clothes can too.

in order to avoid all this from now people have to be naked at the poker table and fully shaved everywhere no hiding like a pussy be real men.

I guess at least this way it would make the games more profitable since live poker would become more of a gay club and thus many players attention would be elsewhere. at the end of the day its more money and they aren't really a threat because you can always say no.

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Sunglasses are for the sun, are you playing poker in the pool? If you are, use them, if you aren't, it is up to you. But I personally think that people look like douches wearing sunglasses indoors.

If you have a tell, work until you overcome it. The bigger tells IMHO are the hands.
 
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I personally use sunglasses all the time. But I don't think I'll wear them while playing because you could also confuse your opponents with your eyes.
 
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I wear sunglasses even when Im online
 
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Its not so much about hiding your reads (its that too), but for those of us non-rookies who wear them, its about hiding where ur looking. ur much more likely to be hinest with ur face when u look at ur 2 cards or that facecard on the flop if you dont realize im giving you the staredown:eating:
 
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If players want to ban sunglasses lets also ban all electronic gadgets at the table. Poker players with earphones look like idiots imho ban everything hell with it.
 
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i would wear
it hides tells.-- you can't read my poker face, Haha.
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some believe that the glasses hide their telltale side! but a good player, he realizes the attitudes of opposites! have glasses or not the villain!
 
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in case of professional poker players i think sunglasses makes a real difference, but in case of amateurs like me, i think it doesn't make any big difference rather gives some sort of mental satisfaction " Ok, i'm wearing shades, nobody's gonna understand me'' :cool:
 
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