Chica_bonita
Sad Funny Lady🌬
Bronze Level
In fact, I don't know much about all these terms🙈, but I perceive all the examples given as "bad beat". 🤷♀️
After all, in fact, "bad beat" is when we are far ahead, but in the end, we lose to a weaker hand on the river.
Having collected a straight on the flop, we are far away and if the opponent has collected a stronger combination on the river, it is a bad beat.
Set vs set, in my opinion, is not a bad beat, since, in fact, both players had pocket pairs and initially, the player with the stronger pair won. although, if the set was first assembled by a player with a weaker pair, then, for him, it is, of course, bad beat. If the player who had a stronger pair was the first to collect the set, then for his opponent it is more of a "cooler" than a "bad beat", since, having collected the set on the river, he has already lost anyway: that is, the outcome did not depend on his actions.
Aces are far ahead of any starting hand, so if the opponent gets two pairs on either flop, turn or river, it can be called a bad beat.
In the video, we see a flip on the flop, since the starting hands of the players were approximately equal, but in the end, the player with a pair of kings caught a bad beat, since he was far ahead, but the river did its job. If the ten had not come to the river, it would not have been a bad beat for a player with a pocket pair, although many would say that it was a "bad beat" for him.
Throw stones at me if I'm wrong, but that's my humble opinion.🙈
After all, in fact, "bad beat" is when we are far ahead, but in the end, we lose to a weaker hand on the river.
Having collected a straight on the flop, we are far away and if the opponent has collected a stronger combination on the river, it is a bad beat.
Set vs set, in my opinion, is not a bad beat, since, in fact, both players had pocket pairs and initially, the player with the stronger pair won. although, if the set was first assembled by a player with a weaker pair, then, for him, it is, of course, bad beat. If the player who had a stronger pair was the first to collect the set, then for his opponent it is more of a "cooler" than a "bad beat", since, having collected the set on the river, he has already lost anyway: that is, the outcome did not depend on his actions.
Aces are far ahead of any starting hand, so if the opponent gets two pairs on either flop, turn or river, it can be called a bad beat.
In the video, we see a flip on the flop, since the starting hands of the players were approximately equal, but in the end, the player with a pair of kings caught a bad beat, since he was far ahead, but the river did its job. If the ten had not come to the river, it would not have been a bad beat for a player with a pocket pair, although many would say that it was a "bad beat" for him.
Throw stones at me if I'm wrong, but that's my humble opinion.🙈
lauestla
Legend
Platinum Level
I think we all have our own definition of what is a bad beat.
Mine would be that one: I consider a bad beat the situation when you lose while being far ahead at the moment of the shove.
I mean about 80% equity or more.
Example : AA cracked by 99 hitting a set at the river.
I wouldn't call bad beat these monster hands when you run into another monster like KK losing vs AA for example.
It's of course very unlucky but it's a cooler and not a bad beat in my humble opinion.
Well we all get bad beats everyday. It's part of the game and sometimes we are the lucky man who hits the unlikely river.
So that's poker... and that's why we love it.
Mine would be that one: I consider a bad beat the situation when you lose while being far ahead at the moment of the shove.
I mean about 80% equity or more.
Example : AA cracked by 99 hitting a set at the river.
I wouldn't call bad beat these monster hands when you run into another monster like KK losing vs AA for example.
It's of course very unlucky but it's a cooler and not a bad beat in my humble opinion.
Well we all get bad beats everyday. It's part of the game and sometimes we are the lucky man who hits the unlikely river.
So that's poker... and that's why we love it.
Roobz75
Legend
Platinum Level
A bad beat to me is having good core cards, a couple of callers, you shake off all but one player and you're ahead by the turn. River comes up and you decide one last time to take the pot. River ends up being in your opponent's favour, with one of the worst combinations of hands.
You've lost loads of chips to a crap hand = definition of a bad beat....🥺🥺
You've lost loads of chips to a crap hand = definition of a bad beat....🥺🥺
ODRAGD3
Rock Star
Platinum Level
I call bad beat when for example I have A10 and my opponent AK raises 4bb and I call preflop and the flop is A Q J and my opponent calls 4BB and I raise 8BB believing that I have the winning hand on turn is A Q J 9, opponent calls 10BB and I Raise 20BB believing I have the winning hand! and the river comes A Q J 9 A ending all in both and losing the hand from the pre flop that is a bad beat for me
MK_
Legend
Platinum Level
I think a lot of players think any hand they lose is a bad beat.. a hand that's in the neighborhood of a flip can't be a bad beat to me, a hand that's not ahead preflop can't be a bad beat, I would say 80% or better really, maybe 75% but that's being generous lol
... in reality a bad beat means being far ahead preflop and having a lock on the hand and then losing to some insane randomness like a one outer or some bizarre run out of cards.
I posted one bad beat on this forum just to show what a real bad beat looks like and because it was so insane it made me laugh, just watched it again to post here and it's still gross but what can you do lol
... in reality a bad beat means being far ahead preflop and having a lock on the hand and then losing to some insane randomness like a one outer or some bizarre run out of cards.
I posted one bad beat on this forum just to show what a real bad beat looks like and because it was so insane it made me laugh, just watched it again to post here and it's still gross but what can you do lol
jaymfc
R.I.P DJ & Buck
Loyaler
well I think anytime I get beat it's a bad beat but I guess not much is really a bad beat
considering the odds, 80/20 loses 20% of the time which seems like a lot.
we have so many who will call with any two trash cards and that's a bad beat in my book.
a genuine bad beat would probably be less than 5%.
both real bad beats.
considering the odds, 80/20 loses 20% of the time which seems like a lot.
we have so many who will call with any two trash cards and that's a bad beat in my book.
a genuine bad beat would probably be less than 5%.
yes I thought mine was bad but that tops mine
both real bad beats.
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ageloss
Enthusiast
Silver Level
Worst Bud beat for me is when i had pre flop all in with pocket AA and opponent pocket KK with 234 on flop and 8 on turn! Guess what came on river?? A very ugly K came and that kicked me out after of 5 hours playing on tournament just before getting in to the money……..
I think that is definitely a bud beat😡
I think that is definitely a bud beat😡
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Ron112355
Legend
Loyaler
A lot of players confuse suck-outs with "Bad Beats" Having your Aces get cracked by some maniac playing any two cards is not a bad beat In my opinion to be considered a Bad Beat is based on hand strength, a big hand losing to a bigger hand, you need to have no less than a full house AA over 10s to even be considered for a bad beat jackpot in some casinos.
Here's a sick one from years ago that still is fun to watch
Here's a sick one from years ago that still is fun to watch
Gallarado777
Legend
Loyaler
it's a cool video that AK VS 1010 wins 10 on the river but it's just a coincidence that happens all the time in poker it's not bad bits, just a person won when he was older before the flop and after the flop he had only 2 outs that came to the river normal game, the joy there's certainly rage
mattiebumpo
Legend
Loyaler
I think when you get your chips in and you're way ahead (like 80-20) and the opponent hits runner, runner to hit their hand, it is a bad beat. Also, when you raise all-in and are called by hand and you are way ahead, again something like 80-20 or 85-15 and they win, it is a bad beat. Playing in online free rolls, I think we run into bad beats much more often than in live poker. Sometimes it definitely gets me down and cause me to shrink away from playing for bigger stakes.
ZenonBR
Visionary
Platinum Level
Bad Bets are pre-flop situations where you have a considerable statistical advantage to win, such as AA against 72 and end up losing.
In this situation we have an 87.24% chance with a pair of AA and 12.4% chance with 72.
If the flop turns something like 5 J 7, on the turn 9 and river 7.
So we have a Bad Bet, where you had one considerable probability of winning, but it doesn't happen.
In this situation we have an 87.24% chance with a pair of AA and 12.4% chance with 72.
If the flop turns something like 5 J 7, on the turn 9 and river 7.
So we have a Bad Bet, where you had one considerable probability of winning, but it doesn't happen.
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gloemcesar
Rock Star
Platinum Level
Its an interesting topic. Im going to share a technical answer. Hoping it can contribute to the post discussion.
In poker, a "bad beat" typically refers to a situation where a player with a strong hand loses to a player with a weaker hand due to unlikely turn and river cards. However, the definition of a true bad beat can vary among players, and it often involves a subjective interpretation.
Some common elements in defining a bad beat include:
1. **Statistical Unlikelihood:** The outcome must be statistically unlikely or improbable based on the cards dealt and the situation on the board.
2. **Strong Starting Hand:** A bad beat often involves a player losing with a strong starting hand (e.g., pocket Aces) against an opponent with a weaker hand.
3. **Significant Betting:** There is usually significant betting or raising in the hand, indicating a commitment of chips to the pot.
4. **Late Stage of the Hand:** The bad beat typically occurs on the turn or river, influencing the final outcome of the hand.
Ultimately, what constitutes a bad beat can be subjective, and different players may have varying thresholds for defining it. It's part of the inherent uncertainty and excitement in poker, where the best hand doesn't always win due to the element of chance introduced by the community cards.
In poker, a "bad beat" typically refers to a situation where a player with a strong hand loses to a player with a weaker hand due to unlikely turn and river cards. However, the definition of a true bad beat can vary among players, and it often involves a subjective interpretation.
Some common elements in defining a bad beat include:
1. **Statistical Unlikelihood:** The outcome must be statistically unlikely or improbable based on the cards dealt and the situation on the board.
2. **Strong Starting Hand:** A bad beat often involves a player losing with a strong starting hand (e.g., pocket Aces) against an opponent with a weaker hand.
3. **Significant Betting:** There is usually significant betting or raising in the hand, indicating a commitment of chips to the pot.
4. **Late Stage of the Hand:** The bad beat typically occurs on the turn or river, influencing the final outcome of the hand.
Ultimately, what constitutes a bad beat can be subjective, and different players may have varying thresholds for defining it. It's part of the inherent uncertainty and excitement in poker, where the best hand doesn't always win due to the element of chance introduced by the community cards.
DiegoRamos
Legend
Loyaler
Any win against 70% odds.
antonis32123
Legend
Loyaler
If we are talking about live poker , i would say a bad beat is a hand where the other player wins the hand with a extremely lucky hand , lets say runner runner he wins on the river after a flop shove . If you have odds like 99% to win on the flop , and then you lose on the river with runner runner , yeah thats a bad beat lol . and ofcourse crazy hands like straight flush vs full house , or royal flush vs four of a kind , yeah then its bad beat
Ofcourse many times you lose with an unlucky hand , then its not bad beat , just bad luck .
But online i tend to say bad beat all the time , even if its just over pair or better set that wins , cause i have seen many set up hands winning . Then the table suddenly breaks . that's very common on JokerStars . When you lose with a very unlucky hand , or even a bad beat hand , the table breaks , and players are being transferred to other tables . that's disgusting
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i played a 11$ powerpath tourney recently . i had KK preflop , on the flop i had best hand , i shoved , he tanked , delayed using time bank , then he called with absolutely nothing , he had KQ , miracle cards on the turn and river , runner runner cards gave him the straight on the river , he needed both cards to win , them and nothing else , and RNG gave them to him . Now either he is a pro who manipulates RNG or its a poker rooms' bot . In any case , if that happened in a live poker homegame , i would think maybe they set me up to lose , the cards , the dealer , who knows . if it was a very well known and trusted event like wsop , i would say that the player opponent is clearly stupid , a lucky stupid . but online .... online its a different story , so yeah , that hand live would be a bad luck/unlucky hand (probably) , but online you can call it a bad beat , a bad BEAT by RNG to you , as if RNG strikes or beats you on purpose ....lol
Ofcourse many times you lose with an unlucky hand , then its not bad beat , just bad luck .
But online i tend to say bad beat all the time , even if its just over pair or better set that wins , cause i have seen many set up hands winning . Then the table suddenly breaks . that's very common on JokerStars . When you lose with a very unlucky hand , or even a bad beat hand , the table breaks , and players are being transferred to other tables . that's disgusting
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i played a 11$ powerpath tourney recently . i had KK preflop , on the flop i had best hand , i shoved , he tanked , delayed using time bank , then he called with absolutely nothing , he had KQ , miracle cards on the turn and river , runner runner cards gave him the straight on the river , he needed both cards to win , them and nothing else , and RNG gave them to him . Now either he is a pro who manipulates RNG or its a poker rooms' bot . In any case , if that happened in a live poker homegame , i would think maybe they set me up to lose , the cards , the dealer , who knows . if it was a very well known and trusted event like wsop , i would say that the player opponent is clearly stupid , a lucky stupid . but online .... online its a different story , so yeah , that hand live would be a bad luck/unlucky hand (probably) , but online you can call it a bad beat , a bad BEAT by RNG to you , as if RNG strikes or beats you on purpose ....lol
Useensole
Rising Star
Bronze Level
Yesterday I was playing a tournament and I was given Aces at the BB. UTG raised to 3BB and two opponents called, I then raised to 15BB and all three opponents called.
Flop comes: Q44 (two spades)
I then go all-in (67BB on a 61BB pot). Only one opponent called with Q9 with the 9 of spades. Then the turn and the river comes with two more spades giving him the flush.
And that is the story of how I lost my tournament in the third hand I played.
Flop comes: Q44 (two spades)
I then go all-in (67BB on a 61BB pot). Only one opponent called with Q9 with the 9 of spades. Then the turn and the river comes with two more spades giving him the flush.
And that is the story of how I lost my tournament in the third hand I played.
