LaNimmer
Visionary
Bronze Level
Ummm.....It's called "gambling". Not everybody likes to "gamble", but many get a thrill from it!
RustyRed83
Legend
Platinum Level
Is it? Thanks for the heads-up, iv'e never heard of the term gambling before.
Aleksandr1991
Rock Star
Platinum Level
Pocket jacks are not an easy hand to play. In fact, a lot of players hate this hand. However, it's important to remember that pocket jacks are one of the strongest starting hands and therefore one of the most profitable.
But you should understand when to bet and raise with JJ, and when the best solution would be to fold this hand
But you should understand when to bet and raise with JJ, and when the best solution would be to fold this hand
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Cbabycee
Enthusiast
Silver Level
That’s an ambiguous question it depends on a lot of things. Position, where you are in the tournament, how many Bb you have, what you know about the other players. JJ is an easy fold from first position on the bubble when you have chip lead, but if you got 2bb it’s a push
Luvepoker
Lost in the twilight zone
Community Guide
I will play JJ every time if I can as it is one of the strongest starting hands in the game. Do I play it as unbeatable, hell no. If I have 20BB i play it as it is as I am so short but when I am deep and there is a lot of betting going on jack shrink very quickly and can be a fold pre flop without even putting on chip in under the right circumstances.
jasioo
Rock Star
Bronze Level
It depends on whether I'm playing in a tournament or a cash game. If I'm playing in a tournament, it depends on which phase of the tournament it is.
If I play a cash game then it depends on the opponents. If there are many opponents, I only check, if only one, I check whether he is playing loose, tight or standard. if the opponent is playing tight, I only call, if loose or standard, then I push all in
If I play a cash game then it depends on the opponents. If there are many opponents, I only check, if only one, I check whether he is playing loose, tight or standard. if the opponent is playing tight, I only call, if loose or standard, then I push all in
dreamer13
Legend
Platinum Level
Playing postflop with JJ is quite difficult, since in most cases the flop will come with an overcard. And this is another reason why you don't need to inflate the pot with jacks, because if you can't call a continuation bet at least in some cases, then the whole play turns into a waste of money.Against weak opponents, JJ becomes a top hand that needs to be played quickly and aggressively.
Fofa
Rock Star
Platinum Level
Saul2025
Rock Star
Bronze Level
Vs. whom (range)? What position? Which game (phase)? How many bb you have?
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ph_il
...
Silver Level
why does your stack need to get to a 10-12 bbs before you get it in preflop to accumulate chips?
not saying you need to get it in 100+ bbs deep with jj, but what about 25-40 bbs? it may not be an open jamming stack sizes, but they're good for re-jams / squeeze jams. you can pick up a ton of dead money and you have good equity against most call ranges if you go heads-up, especially since you get to see all 5 cards.
also, even if jj's equity is a coinflip when all-in preflop, why do you wait until your stack is low before your willing to take that coinflip. equity is the same, so odds of you winning / losing are equal, but the difference between losing 10 bbs / winning 20 bbs vs losing 25 bbs / winning 50 bbs is that 50 bbs will get you much deeper in mtts. the risk is still the same, but your overall mtts results will differ as 50 bbs will provide way more options and allow you to 'survive' much longer.
survival in mtts is important, but so is chip accumulation. you can survive a long time in mtts by just folding, but that doesn't really help you. plus, you're not just playing jj, but a range of hands. so, you'll actually be jamming wider with 10-12 bbs. so, you might find yourself jamming a hand with less equity for less chips when you could have gotten it in a hand with more preflop equity for more chips.
anyway, not telling you what to do, just something to think about as you could be severely handicapping your results if you wait until your short stack to play your big hands for max value.
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gustavofuentes2
Visionary
Platinum Level
I would have to say no. It requires a small raise and just wait after the flop and see how the betting goes
riff_raff312
Legend
Loyaler
Pocket JJ are a 3 bet at most per flop but even that is pushing it,position will also play a part in this decision for me so there a lot to think about.
But everyone plays their own game so i won't give you all i think about it would only confuse you.
But everyone plays their own game so i won't give you all i think about it would only confuse you.
thedarkman
Legend
Platinum Level
A good rule of thumb is that if you are all-in with jacks, someone will call with ace rag and outflop of worse still river you.
On the other hand, if the other player has the jacks and you call with AK, they will hold up.
On the other hand, if the other player has the jacks and you call with AK, they will hold up.
Luka22guro
Rock Star
Platinum Level
there is no doubt that this is a good strong hand and in a stack of up to 20 bb it calmly goes to the abank and is a strong range for a 3-bet game, but there is no need to overestimate it.
RustyRed83
Legend
Platinum Level
I want to double up, not pick up a few blinds, and not scare people off. I'd much rather entice a 3-bet, rather than shoving from the off.
Biggest mistake I see at the tables, players shoving playable stacks, you are only going to get called by a better hand.
dongato2
Rock Star
Bronze Level
I play spin and go, and with a short stack it is normal to go all in pre flop.
Kinalha
Legend
Platinum Level
The most part of time, yes