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Cdub512
Legend
Silver Level
I can see folding the nuts being a good move in a satellite. If you have the nuts on the flop or turn, but the guy most likely has a lot of outs to beat your hand, a fold might not be a bad idea. It would be situational though. If you were close to making the target tourney, there are short stacks, and you have a mid chip stack, a fold isn't a bad idea to put your satty win at risk. It's like how folding AA preflop is sometimes a good idea in a satty.
Pretty much any other nuts situation in hold em, get your chips in!
Pretty much any other nuts situation in hold em, get your chips in!
hackmeplz
Sleep Faster
Silver Level
If there's ever a spot to fold postflop in a satty like that you probably should have folded pre. I guess if you're in the BB and check and flop the nuts in a spot like that then sure.
Zorba
27
Platinum Level
D'Mo says it well here.
Get it in when you have the nuts, even I know that and I'm a fish.
angelluv725
Legend
Platinum Level
Holding Or Folding AA
I like this comment by BluffMeAllIn .. " +1, If you have the absolute nuts then you can't lose, current nuts a different story but either way no one is going to fold the nuts for fear of what's to come and if you are then your playing with SCARED MONEY and we all know this is a bad idea to do playing poker."
When I first started playing poker I was scared and "playing with SCARED MONEY", but now I have become more aware that they are just cards and the fear is gone. I don't believe I could ever fold the pair of AA.
I like this comment by BluffMeAllIn .. " +1, If you have the absolute nuts then you can't lose, current nuts a different story but either way no one is going to fold the nuts for fear of what's to come and if you are then your playing with SCARED MONEY and we all know this is a bad idea to do playing poker."
When I first started playing poker I was scared and "playing with SCARED MONEY", but now I have become more aware that they are just cards and the fear is gone. I don't believe I could ever fold the pair of AA.
Thinker_145
Visionary
Silver Level
From that definition then you can't flop the absolute nuts unless you have the higher end of a straight flush. Basically you cannot flop the absolute nuts pretty much ever.
Thinker_145
Visionary
Silver Level
You clearly did not read the thread it seems. In any practical scenario no you would never fold the nuts but there is a certain hand that equity wise is actually better to fold if you know what your opponent has. Basically 2 people have the nut straight on the flop but one of them also has a flush draw.
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SwiftHax
Rock Star
Silver Level
Why would you even consider folding to a freeroll? It's like AA and KK pre-flop, everyone will get them in pre if they get a chance. Next time when you have AA and he has KK you will win. Next time you have AKc you will freeroll your way to victory.
Absolute nuts only applies to the higher end of a straight flush then. Even if you flop AAA holding AK your opponent can still backdoor a Royal Flush.
What kind of question is that? If that happens, I would base my decision entirely on pot odds.
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Thinker_145
Visionary
Silver Level
Of course in real life you are never folding the nuts and neither am I but the premise of this thread was based on a hypothetical scenario that you can see your opponent's cards.
steveiam
CardsChat Elite
Silver Level
If i have 67h and the flop comes 345h...how do i lose ?
Thinker_145
Visionary
Silver Level
That's pretty much a once in a lifetime flop hence why I said "pretty much never".
S3mper
Poker Not Checkers
Loyaler
How about this 10 players left one player at another table is extremely short stacked, you have the 3rd largest stack and you are currently involved in a hand with the big stack.
You have [8C][9c]
Villain has [Ks][Qs]
Flop comes [10s][Js][7d]
Villain shoves and accidently reveals his cards to you the dealer nor the table notice or catch it.
This is the wsop ME and if you outlast the short stack you become a November 9er.
You have the Current nuts however your a slight under dog. Winning this hand puts you in great shape and a legitimate chance to win the ME going to the FT with a chip lead...
However if you lose, you potentially lose a chance to get noticed on a bigger stage and don't get to be at the FT in the ME.
You have [8C][9c]
Villain has [Ks][Qs]
Flop comes [10s][Js][7d]
Villain shoves and accidently reveals his cards to you the dealer nor the table notice or catch it.
This is the wsop ME and if you outlast the short stack you become a November 9er.
You have the Current nuts however your a slight under dog. Winning this hand puts you in great shape and a legitimate chance to win the ME going to the FT with a chip lead...
However if you lose, you potentially lose a chance to get noticed on a bigger stage and don't get to be at the FT in the ME.
Thinker_145
Visionary
Silver Level
I specifically made this thread in the cash games section because I know an argument for folding in a tournament is based on too many other variables as well.
This hand was brought up before as well and yes the nuts is actually behind in terms of equity but its not enough to lay down the hand if there is any dead money involved which pretty much always is.
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gianni
Enthusiast
Silver Level
folding nuts after flop is not good idea
if u have hand like AK come on flop TJQ I never fold it, if on turn come any TJQ I would think about folding my hand, your opponent can have any pair of TT JJ or QQ...but before turn I would not fold my nuts hand!!!
if u have hand like AK come on flop TJQ I never fold it, if on turn come any TJQ I would think about folding my hand, your opponent can have any pair of TT JJ or QQ...but before turn I would not fold my nuts hand!!!
S3mper
Poker Not Checkers
Loyaler
Well in a cash game the only time I can think of is if you were on a show or situation like "The Big Game" Where you are staked 100k and you get to keep any winning above the initial 100k and if you were up enough I'd fold
Carl Trooper
Degenerate Idiot
Silver Level
Playing with scared money is something I have been tampering with sometime online.
It isn't fun!
Ha, like playing .25-.50 then doubling until one night you are playing $10-$20 and get dealt QQ late position. MP raises and the first words I yell is "Sh*t!"
Thats when you know you are playing scared money
It isn't fun!
Ha, like playing .25-.50 then doubling until one night you are playing $10-$20 and get dealt QQ late position. MP raises and the first words I yell is "Sh*t!"
Thats when you know you are playing scared money
