- Apr 12, 2007
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^^ does it seem like we're not being serious, i think some of my points were good lol,
NEVER, and I mean NEVER, underestimate the power of marketing guys in suits to screw-up a good thing. This is 100% the doing of the idiots at ESPN. They did an expert job of screwing up professional tournament bass fishing when they bought B.A.S.S., and now they have moved on to my other serious hobby, poker. It's time we protest this and inundate Harrah's with so many e-mails that theyWAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
At least from a player's perspective, having months between the end of the penultimate day and the start of the final table would completely throw your game.
Still waiting for real reason why this is 'screwing up a good thing'. Enough with the ZOMG CHANGE BAAAAAAD reactions already...
Which is why I asked whether it was just a rumour...It's all completely academic, of course, because the official structure sheet for this year's Main Event has them playing the final table on July 16...
World Series of Poker - Official Tournament Coverage and Results
I know people from the UK that save up all year to play in this, a large part of their expenses is the cost of travelling to/staying in the USA, and they have to book a fair chunk of their holiday too. Having to go back a second time would definitely make the difference for some ordinary people as to whether they could play in it or not. So it's easy for the pros, but not so easy for joe public, that's for sure.As to conflicts of interest that's just lol.
I know people from the UK that save up all year to play in this, a large part of their expenses is the cost of travelling to/staying in the USA, and they have to book a fair chunk of their holiday too. Having to go back a second time would definitely make the difference for some ordinary people as to whether they could play in it or not. So it's easy for the pros, but not so easy for joe public, that's for sure.
And your opponents have now got 4 months to track down players that have played with you and grill them for info and tells.
so what. I don't see why this is such a big deal. So people will have reads, and people will be attempting to change their patterns as well.
What does 9th place get, $500K+? That may not be a lot of money to Daniel Negreanu and the other morons that have signed off on this, but that's a hell of a lot of money to me. You are supposed to wait 4 months for it, and then play live on ESPN for free? And this is a good idea?
right, which is why the bread would benefit the ninth place finisher-- they now have time to negotiate a deal that will potentially give them more money long term than they actually win.
The question of the interest on the money was brought up as a negative in pokerking blog as well, but the solution is simple really: just get it to the players by way of addition the prize pool. Again, the delay should be a financial boon to the players, not a hardship.
Things change in 4 months. What if you are in a coma? What if your wife is? What if you are in jail? What if you don't want to come to America twice? What if you lose your form?
See above. Probability of this is so low as to be statistically moronic to consider, imo.
What about collusion? You think that mini deals and team ups aren't going to be proposed? And if they aren't, do you think the public wont think there has been?
Collusion has always been an underlying issue for poker. It could be negotiated in July just as easily as three months later. No change here.
This whole idea just shows what a shambles the WSOP really is. Who's in charge? Who decides what's going on? Players pay their entry fee, a substantial chunk goes to harrahs (as does the TV money), and the players (6-8,000 of which pay $10K to play in the main event) are represented by 15 self serving, image pushing Pros who cant possibly have any interest in the wishes and rights of the ordinary Joe satelite qualifier?
Issues for a different day include why Harrah's and other corporate entities can make so much money without adding to the prize pool or otherwise giving back to the players. Separate (and important) topic.