K_Kahne_Fan
Legend
Silver Level
Unless you're armed, and ready to use it... this would be a big NO! I might turn around, but only to find a well lit area, possibly local police sub station, or even a (24 hour) fire house.
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Unless you're armed, and ready to use it... this would be a big NO! I might turn around, but only to find a well lit area, possibly local police sub station, or even a (24 hour) fire house.
StormRaven
Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
Definitely not smart if he had a gun. I used to be a sheriff's deputy though for 3 1/2 years before I was married. Not that this fact would stop a bullet, but this initially freaked me out and almost immediately after angered me. I wanted to find out who it was, why and report them. Not smart for a female on her own late at night but I wasn't going to get out of my truck, just roll my window down and I do have onstar, a cell phone and a cane with an 18" dagger in it. (I sold my handgun years ago when I started having kids).
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HipHopStoner
Rock Star
Silver Level
Yea... I destroy all that oppose me live.. yet online I run into people that end up making me feel like I play like shit when really it's their horrible play that affects my game. Dealing with soo many donks at once is much harder then dealing with a few.
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xXShannonAXx
Rock Star
Silver Level
to me i would say online poker is harder because people will make calls they normally wouldnt if they where out with fear of someone having a go at them but online they can hide behind there pc and dont really have to worry about much
GCB
Rock Star
Silver Level
It's a lot harder to get a read on people online. All you have is a weird name and an avatar (though I turn those off) and neither are much help. That levels things a bit.
Players you don't know from Adam are continually popping in and out. You don't see someone you've encountered before enough for it to make much of a difference overall. I use the notes on FT to keep track of people, but what's the use if you don't see them again?
I think the clues on online poker are more subtle and even subliminal, and you probably have to play thousands of hands before that sixth sense gets fully developed. But it is possible, You get a feel for a player and though you might at first have a hard time putting into words what he's like, it is a feel you can make use of.
Players you don't know from Adam are continually popping in and out. You don't see someone you've encountered before enough for it to make much of a difference overall. I use the notes on FT to keep track of people, but what's the use if you don't see them again?
I think the clues on online poker are more subtle and even subliminal, and you probably have to play thousands of hands before that sixth sense gets fully developed. But it is possible, You get a feel for a player and though you might at first have a hard time putting into words what he's like, it is a feel you can make use of.
Sephiroth
Rock Star
Platinum Level
yup
I agree that this is a big part of online poker being harder. That and you have donk3ys calling you no matter what you do. They will call you dominated and hit 3 outters left right and center
I agree that this is a big part of online poker being harder. That and you have donk3ys calling you no matter what you do. They will call you dominated and hit 3 outters left right and center
K_Kahne_Fan
Legend
Silver Level
Side note: I think the title of this should be translated to, "Why do people LOSE more with online poker?"
As for ease of online poker, it's pretty easy sitting here in my chair clicking the mouse. As for level of play, it probably varies just as much as live play, you have fish/sharks at both tables. I think what it does do though is amplify a player's skill level. You may have a 2 hour winning session live, but you'll only see 60 hands (?), whereas online that same 2 hours could see 160 hands... and that's if you play 1 table. Play 2 tables and you're going to see 320 hands, which is the equivalent to 5.34 live sessions. If you were to play those live sessions, you may very well have a losing week as well live. But, most players sit down at a 2 hour winning live session and a 2 hour losing OL session and wonder why... it's not the same session.
As for ease of online poker, it's pretty easy sitting here in my chair clicking the mouse. As for level of play, it probably varies just as much as live play, you have fish/sharks at both tables. I think what it does do though is amplify a player's skill level. You may have a 2 hour winning session live, but you'll only see 60 hands (?), whereas online that same 2 hours could see 160 hands... and that's if you play 1 table. Play 2 tables and you're going to see 320 hands, which is the equivalent to 5.34 live sessions. If you were to play those live sessions, you may very well have a losing week as well live. But, most players sit down at a 2 hour winning live session and a 2 hour losing OL session and wonder why... it's not the same session.
Dogfish44
Rock Star
Silver Level
Too many distractions...
I haven't played 'live' poker yet, although there is a local pub now advertising poker nights which I mean to check out. I have however played blackjack in a couple of casino's though.
I think live play is easier because whilst my PC is located upstairs, out of the way in my bedroom, I can't recall the last time my wife burst into the casino with a pile of washing to be folded or wanting to discuss the household accounts!!
I haven't played 'live' poker yet, although there is a local pub now advertising poker nights which I mean to check out. I have however played blackjack in a couple of casino's though.
I think live play is easier because whilst my PC is located upstairs, out of the way in my bedroom, I can't recall the last time my wife burst into the casino with a pile of washing to be folded or wanting to discuss the household accounts!!
StormRaven
Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
^^^Great Points!!!
It is easier to sit in your chair at home, there might be more distractions, but it's still easier.
I do find level of play varies whether you are online or live. Some nights I sit a live table full of tourists who just want to have fun and barely know the basics, other nights I sit at a table full of people I can hold an intelligent poker conversation with, people who know hand odds, pot odds, implied odds, reverse implied odds, etc;
Live it's more like 40 hands an hour (depending on the dealer and the players). There are some great dealers who control the table well and you might get 60 hands an hour. Even if you have a great dealer, you still see substantially more hands online than live. The more hands you see, the more experience you get and the better your game becomes. Although live it is very easy to spot the people who play mostly online and have very little live experience because they almost always play horribly live and usually way too loose and way too eager to shove all in.
Dogfish - lmao! I hear ya, except for me it's my kids. We start "adult" time on school nights at 7:30 pm and the kids start "quiet time". I usually start my night sessions with ps's 8pm 3.30+r tourney and I usually have no idea what is going on during my first hour or so of play, lol!
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thejuanupsman
Rock Star
Silver Level
+1 To this, I've never accidentally folded the winning hand live. Or accidentally gone all in with 7/2 off either for that matter. Other than that I think online is easier. I don't have to deal with the casino atmosphere, which I hate, and I can play while controlling the atmosphere around me. True, the tells are different, but they are still there and I actually get to know the online players much better than I do casino players. And it's much easier to get to my computer than it is to get to a casino or card room.
Salacious
Enthusiast
Silver Level
My live play pays for my online play. For me firstly, online poker is harder because it's boring, nobody to talk with, no waitresses to ogle. Playing more tables only intensifies this. Secondly, because hiding in a dark room with just your computer monitor is boring, I think a lot of people play live because they want to have a good time, not necessarily because they want to win. You don't find many people online playing just for the riveting conversation. Also, with all the grinding multitabling semi-pros online, who can find a soft table?
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Grindit9
Rock Star
Silver Level
On PKR you can actually show emotions with your avatar it really helps you read other players YEAH!
lektrikguy
Legend
Silver Level
People posting naked pic links in the Cardschat Forums distract me from playing.
If you're talking about the Leann Tweeden link that was me. Apologies to anyone offended...I really didn't think it was so bad but rules are rules I guess.
K_Kahne_Fan
Legend
Silver Level
Alcohol (or lack thereof). When you play at home, and a lot of times in the casino, players tend to drink. I'm not sure about y'all, but I don't drink. Therefor, after about an hour or two of playing, my villains are WAAAYYY loose, and milk them when I hit.
K_Kahne_Fan
Legend
Silver Level
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Dantigua
Enthusiast
Silver Level
i agree with hiphopstoner and shannona.
the suck outs online are harder to handle cos you're at home steaming. i just finished 8th in a $10 360+ tourney. i went all in with A7 and got a call from 72.... he claims it was a mistake... which is also another online problem... clicking the wrong button.... but imagine my horror when the 2 hits the river.
in a casino, u just walk away and the bad beat is more easily forgotten. At home... i go to bed after a tourney and am lying awake thinking about it
people are also less inclined to believe u and will call u with middle pair thinking you're trying to bluff when u bet your top pair.... and then they end up catching runner runner (also happened earlier this evening).
there has been a lot of mention about live tells.... i agree that they are important..... but everyone is making it sound like 10 minutes at a live table and u can stop looking at your cards. believe me, getting tells on players live is very hard, and using them... well it tends to be when a decision is marginal and you have a GOOD read (one which has been observed, monitored and proven over the course of a long session) on your opponent.
in theory i believe online should be easier than live. there is less need to get fancy with your play. if you stick to a tight game, you generally will win
the suck outs online are harder to handle cos you're at home steaming. i just finished 8th in a $10 360+ tourney. i went all in with A7 and got a call from 72.... he claims it was a mistake... which is also another online problem... clicking the wrong button.... but imagine my horror when the 2 hits the river.
in a casino, u just walk away and the bad beat is more easily forgotten. At home... i go to bed after a tourney and am lying awake thinking about it
people are also less inclined to believe u and will call u with middle pair thinking you're trying to bluff when u bet your top pair.... and then they end up catching runner runner (also happened earlier this evening).
there has been a lot of mention about live tells.... i agree that they are important..... but everyone is making it sound like 10 minutes at a live table and u can stop looking at your cards. believe me, getting tells on players live is very hard, and using them... well it tends to be when a decision is marginal and you have a GOOD read (one which has been observed, monitored and proven over the course of a long session) on your opponent.
in theory i believe online should be easier than live. there is less need to get fancy with your play. if you stick to a tight game, you generally will win
Dogfish44
Rock Star
Silver Level
Just because you CAN do something, doesn't mean you SHOULD do something!!
I agree with a lot of people on here that online poker is harder because you can't see the tell's and read your opponents as well, but when it comes to showing your emotions online... why make it easier to be read yourself? Also, who's to say they aren't playing with you? ... Giving off false reads (broad grin / smiling) when in fact they're only holding 72o and are still steaming from the previous bad beat.
On PKR you can actually show emotions with your avatar it really helps you read other players YEAH!
I agree with a lot of people on here that online poker is harder because you can't see the tell's and read your opponents as well, but when it comes to showing your emotions online... why make it easier to be read yourself? Also, who's to say they aren't playing with you? ... Giving off false reads (broad grin / smiling) when in fact they're only holding 72o and are still steaming from the previous bad beat.
playsuji6
Enthusiast
Silver Level
Oh! god!! do You feel like that. Is online poker is harder than Live poker...ahhhh!!!
I think Live poker is so difficult than the online poker, nobody is watching you in online, isnt a great thing for you.
i hardly belive that live poker is so difficult to play rather than online.!
I think Live poker is so difficult than the online poker, nobody is watching you in online, isnt a great thing for you.
i hardly belive that live poker is so difficult to play rather than online.!
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gearmaker007
Rising Star
Silver Level
a little off the subject but i heard this on a movie
"you know how the internet screwed poker up? When somebody sucks out real bad on you on the river, on the internet, you can't take them in the parking lot and break their freakin knees!"
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"you know how the internet screwed poker up? When somebody sucks out real bad on you on the river, on the internet, you can't take them in the parking lot and break their freakin knees!"
hilarious
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