DetroitJimmy
Legend
Silver Level
I scored 112.Seeing all the other scores here I don't feel to bad about it.
I don't see why they put that "Rounders" question in there.It kinda threw me off when they asked me to forget about the movie.How the hell can you expect someone to forget something they know without getting them real high first
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I don't see why they put that "Rounders" question in there.It kinda threw me off when they asked me to forget about the movie.How the hell can you expect someone to forget something they know without getting them real high first
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OzExorcist
Broomcorn's uncle
Bronze Level
I don't see why they put that "Rounders" question in there.It kinda threw me off when they asked me to forget about the movie.How the hell can you expect someone to forget something they know without getting them real high first
Actually, I think it illustrates a good point about not being results oriented. Of course you're inclined to think "fold you fool, he's got aces!" when you know the result - but does that change what you should do if you find yourself in the same situation? Dunno about anyone else, but I'm not in the habit of folding that full house very often...
My score was 104, BTW.
Emperor IX
Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
No, raising is bad in that spot. The only hand calling such a huge raise is one that beats you *cough*AA*cough*
The answer to that is "call," btw
aliengenius
Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
The question really isn't fair if the answer is "call", as they add to it "you think he has the flush" as part of the criteria.
blankoblanco
plays poker on hard mode
Silver Level
the answer is pretty definitely to shove. it's heads up, inflating hand value dramatically by itself. i realize it's deepstacked, but if you're only calling with the near mortal nuts, it'd be +EV for an opponent to raise all-in every time a remotely large pot developed against you. an "expert pro player", as it describes him, isn't gonna be that nitty or exploitable. also, his frequency of having AA decreases a lot when you consider he didn't 3bet pre
fwiw, i answered shove on the test
fwiw, i answered shove on the test
aliengenius
Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
Looks like I did the best in "Tournaments" and that "Computational Speed" hurt me a little (when I took it I didn't realize it was timed). Like I said, I took this back in Feb. (all this info was free then). I was "low stakes pro" then, but only "low stakes winner" now (?)
Anyhow, here is the greater breakdown:
Poker IQ Score
Your General Poker IQ Score is 116 and shows how skilled you are in general. Anyone with a score this high is considered to be a low stakes pro. This score is better than 85.69% of all persons taking this test. You should expect to win in low stakes NL hold'em games.
You scored higher than your average score in 6 individual ability categories. 1 of these better scores could be called statistically significant and may indicate special abilities, or that you were distracted on those parts of the IQ Test that counted more heavily in the other ability categories.
Position
Solving many of the IQ Test's problems required the ability to analyze your position at the table, considering blind levels and stack sizes, the tendencies of your opponents and the strength of your hand.. Many poker situations require analysis of position. The ability to play in and out of position strongly is required for skilled NL Hold"em players.
Your Positional Play score of 114 is not significantly different from your average score. This score is better than 82.47% of all persons taking this test.
Blinds
Understanding what changes occur when out of position but required to put in half a bet are important. By far, the blinds will be any NL Hold"em player's least profitable seats. It is important to play out of the blinds correctly in order to minimize losses over time.
Your Blinds score of 109 is not significantly different from your average score. This score is better than 72.57% of all persons taking this test.
Tournaments
This is the ability to change your strategy, hand strengths, calling and pushing ranges as blinds and antes rise. It is most useful during tournament play, but is useful in dealing with short stacks in deeper stacked cash game play. It is important to learn tournament skills even for cash game specialists. Strong tournament skills should translate to more tournament cashes and deeper finishes.
Your Tournament Play score of 124 is exceptionally higher than your average score. This score is better than 94.52% of all persons taking this test.
Big Pairs
The ability to play big pairs correctly is important for any successful NL Hold"em player. Although over time big pairs will be the most profitable hands, playing them incorrectly can lead to disastrous results. Beginners get themselves into trouble by slow playing and/or overplaying big pairs, and often try to be excessively tricky with them. Although poor players sometimes play their big pairs correctly, it is rare. In general better players will win more and lose less with JJ+ as they gain skill and experience.
Your Big Pairs score of 116 is not significantly different from your average score. This score is better than 85.69% of all persons taking this test.
Small and Medium Pairs
The ability to play small and medium pairs is typically difficult for beginners. Typically beginners will call too much pre-flop with these hands and overplay overpairs on the flop. Folding a set is rarely correct but sometimes necessary.
Your Small and Medium Pairs score of 112 is not significantly different from your average score. This score is better than 78.81% of all persons taking this test.
Bluffing
bluffing is big part of NL Hold"em. Bluffing and semi-bluffing at the right times is important. So is recognizing that an opponent is likely to be bluffing and acting accordingly. Balancing your own bluffs and adjusting opponent calling ranges is essential.
Your Bluffing score of 112 is not significantly different from your average score. This score is better than 78.81% of all persons taking this test.
Flop Texture
Adjusting your play based on the "texture" of the flop is important. The flop cards should be analyzed in light of your opponent's tendencies, his suspected hand range, and the strength of your own hand. Failing to include the flop texture in your post flop decision making is a typical beginner mistake and is easily disastrous. As you gain experience in NL Hold"em and play against more experienced opponents, it will become second nature and of paramount importance.
Your Flop Texture score of 107 is not significantly different from your average score. This score is better than 67.96% of all persons taking this test.
Pot Odds
Sometimes you are required to call when you know you're losing because the price is right. Sometimes you must fold because you're facing a bet that is too big or because an opponent does not have enough money behind to justify an implied odds call. Failing to make the correct odds calls is a major error. Sometimes it is correct to call in some surprising situations.
Your pot odds score of 112 is not significantly different from your average score. This score is better than 78.81% of all persons taking this test.
Logic
Logically analyzing the action during a hand is important. Players with strong logical ability are quicker to see where a given set of conditions is leading, better understand the technical aspects of the game, often move up quickly in stakes and have little trouble with bankroll management.
Your Logic score of 110 is not significantly different from your average score. This score is better than 74.75% of all persons taking this test.
Betting Patterns
An awareness of betting patterns serves a number of purposes. It is useful for analyzing the playing styles of opponents and for finding errors in your own game. Often beginning players have no awareness of common betting patterns. Experienced players are sometimes able to watch a hand, adjust for the skill, experience and tendencies of each player and determine almost exactly what each player holds.
Your Betting Patterns score of 107 is not significantly different from your average score. This score is better than 67.96% of all persons taking this test.
Hand Selection
It is important choose which hands to play by adjusting for position, stack sizes, and the tendencies of your opponents. Beginners often have no awareness of relative hand strength, often play weak hands out of position, or easily dominated hands against tight opponents.
Your Hand selection score of 120 is not significantly different from your average score. This score is better than 90.88% of all persons taking this test.
Aggression
Aggression is important in poker. It increases your equity in most hands by giving you an extra way to win the pot. Your opponent may fold. Playing passively yields only one way to win -- with the best hand at showdown. Beginners typically play too loose and too passive. Excessively aggressive players will lose less than passive players. A balanced tight aggressive strategy is typically best for NL Hold"em depending on game conditions and stack sizes. Loose aggressive style is more difficult to master but can often be extremely profitable.
Your Aggression score of 118 is not significantly different from your average score. This score is better than 88.49% of all persons taking this test.
Computational Speed
Solving problems quickly indicates a combination of experience and card sense. Experienced players can often play most hands automatically, and only require significant thought for the most complex situations. Experienced players should easily answer a good amount of the questions on this test, leaving extra time to focus on the more complex situations.
Your Computational Speed score of 98 is significantly lower than your average score. This score is better than 44.70% of all persons taking this test.
Anyhow, here is the greater breakdown:
Poker IQ Score
Your General Poker IQ Score is 116 and shows how skilled you are in general. Anyone with a score this high is considered to be a low stakes pro. This score is better than 85.69% of all persons taking this test. You should expect to win in low stakes NL hold'em games.
You scored higher than your average score in 6 individual ability categories. 1 of these better scores could be called statistically significant and may indicate special abilities, or that you were distracted on those parts of the IQ Test that counted more heavily in the other ability categories.
Position
Solving many of the IQ Test's problems required the ability to analyze your position at the table, considering blind levels and stack sizes, the tendencies of your opponents and the strength of your hand.. Many poker situations require analysis of position. The ability to play in and out of position strongly is required for skilled NL Hold"em players.
Your Positional Play score of 114 is not significantly different from your average score. This score is better than 82.47% of all persons taking this test.
Blinds
Understanding what changes occur when out of position but required to put in half a bet are important. By far, the blinds will be any NL Hold"em player's least profitable seats. It is important to play out of the blinds correctly in order to minimize losses over time.
Your Blinds score of 109 is not significantly different from your average score. This score is better than 72.57% of all persons taking this test.
Tournaments
This is the ability to change your strategy, hand strengths, calling and pushing ranges as blinds and antes rise. It is most useful during tournament play, but is useful in dealing with short stacks in deeper stacked cash game play. It is important to learn tournament skills even for cash game specialists. Strong tournament skills should translate to more tournament cashes and deeper finishes.
Your Tournament Play score of 124 is exceptionally higher than your average score. This score is better than 94.52% of all persons taking this test.
Big Pairs
The ability to play big pairs correctly is important for any successful NL Hold"em player. Although over time big pairs will be the most profitable hands, playing them incorrectly can lead to disastrous results. Beginners get themselves into trouble by slow playing and/or overplaying big pairs, and often try to be excessively tricky with them. Although poor players sometimes play their big pairs correctly, it is rare. In general better players will win more and lose less with JJ+ as they gain skill and experience.
Your Big Pairs score of 116 is not significantly different from your average score. This score is better than 85.69% of all persons taking this test.
Small and Medium Pairs
The ability to play small and medium pairs is typically difficult for beginners. Typically beginners will call too much pre-flop with these hands and overplay overpairs on the flop. Folding a set is rarely correct but sometimes necessary.
Your Small and Medium Pairs score of 112 is not significantly different from your average score. This score is better than 78.81% of all persons taking this test.
Bluffing
bluffing is big part of NL Hold"em. Bluffing and semi-bluffing at the right times is important. So is recognizing that an opponent is likely to be bluffing and acting accordingly. Balancing your own bluffs and adjusting opponent calling ranges is essential.
Your Bluffing score of 112 is not significantly different from your average score. This score is better than 78.81% of all persons taking this test.
Flop Texture
Adjusting your play based on the "texture" of the flop is important. The flop cards should be analyzed in light of your opponent's tendencies, his suspected hand range, and the strength of your own hand. Failing to include the flop texture in your post flop decision making is a typical beginner mistake and is easily disastrous. As you gain experience in NL Hold"em and play against more experienced opponents, it will become second nature and of paramount importance.
Your Flop Texture score of 107 is not significantly different from your average score. This score is better than 67.96% of all persons taking this test.
Pot Odds
Sometimes you are required to call when you know you're losing because the price is right. Sometimes you must fold because you're facing a bet that is too big or because an opponent does not have enough money behind to justify an implied odds call. Failing to make the correct odds calls is a major error. Sometimes it is correct to call in some surprising situations.
Your pot odds score of 112 is not significantly different from your average score. This score is better than 78.81% of all persons taking this test.
Logic
Logically analyzing the action during a hand is important. Players with strong logical ability are quicker to see where a given set of conditions is leading, better understand the technical aspects of the game, often move up quickly in stakes and have little trouble with bankroll management.
Your Logic score of 110 is not significantly different from your average score. This score is better than 74.75% of all persons taking this test.
Betting Patterns
An awareness of betting patterns serves a number of purposes. It is useful for analyzing the playing styles of opponents and for finding errors in your own game. Often beginning players have no awareness of common betting patterns. Experienced players are sometimes able to watch a hand, adjust for the skill, experience and tendencies of each player and determine almost exactly what each player holds.
Your Betting Patterns score of 107 is not significantly different from your average score. This score is better than 67.96% of all persons taking this test.
Hand Selection
It is important choose which hands to play by adjusting for position, stack sizes, and the tendencies of your opponents. Beginners often have no awareness of relative hand strength, often play weak hands out of position, or easily dominated hands against tight opponents.
Your Hand selection score of 120 is not significantly different from your average score. This score is better than 90.88% of all persons taking this test.
Aggression
Aggression is important in poker. It increases your equity in most hands by giving you an extra way to win the pot. Your opponent may fold. Playing passively yields only one way to win -- with the best hand at showdown. Beginners typically play too loose and too passive. Excessively aggressive players will lose less than passive players. A balanced tight aggressive strategy is typically best for NL Hold"em depending on game conditions and stack sizes. Loose aggressive style is more difficult to master but can often be extremely profitable.
Your Aggression score of 118 is not significantly different from your average score. This score is better than 88.49% of all persons taking this test.
Computational Speed
Solving problems quickly indicates a combination of experience and card sense. Experienced players can often play most hands automatically, and only require significant thought for the most complex situations. Experienced players should easily answer a good amount of the questions on this test, leaving extra time to focus on the more complex situations.
Your Computational Speed score of 98 is significantly lower than your average score. This score is better than 44.70% of all persons taking this test.
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didimaketherightplay
Enthusiast
Silver Level
wait, so your telling me that the test was timed? so the longer you took the worse your score would be?
well i certainly hope this is the case because i got bored half way through and decided to just minimize the page and complete it after Ive given my eyes a bit of a rest. well i returned 15 minutes later and completed it.
i only scored 91 which isn't accurate IMO. again, i hope this was timed and thats the only reason i did poorly. can someone confirm this for me?
well i certainly hope this is the case because i got bored half way through and decided to just minimize the page and complete it after Ive given my eyes a bit of a rest. well i returned 15 minutes later and completed it.
i only scored 91 which isn't accurate IMO. again, i hope this was timed and thats the only reason i did poorly. can someone confirm this for me?
pwnagefactor54
Rising Star
Bronze Level
The test is a joke, it is not real! I just went through the test again as an experiment and this time i covered up all the answers and i just randomly filed in bubbles with no thought at all, and it gave me a score of 138. That makes no sense. the test is effed.
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Boltneck
Rock Star
Silver Level
I despair sometimes - did it not occur to you that you just guessed the "correct" answers rther thn jumping to the conclusion that it's flawed just because you got a high score when guessing the answers. Statistically, it's just as likely that you could guess the answers and get 138 (or even a perfect score) as it is that you could guess the answers and get an average score (which presumably is what you were expecting to happen).
Did you answer what you thought was the correct answer, or what you would have done in that situation? I know it sounds like a daft question, but a couple of time I found myself thinking that the "correct" answer was one thing, and what I would do in that situation is something different! For the record, I answered according to what I would have done!
Did anyone else have this dilema, or am I just a freak?
zachvac
Legend
Silver Level
This is false. If there are more than 2 options, lower scores are more likely. Thus average is more likely than above average, while with 4-answer choices 25% is the most likely and the higher you go the more unlikely it is. Maybe he just got lucky, but take this quick 2-question test:
What's the answer to this question?
Yes
No
Maybe
No Idea
How many hole cards do you get in HE?
1
2
3
4
to get a 50%, the odds are 2(1/4)(3/4) = 3/8
To get a 100%, the odds are (1/4)(1/4) = 1/16
To get a 0%, the odds are (3/4)(3/4) = 9/16
As you can see, you are 9 times as likely to get a 0 as a perfect, and that's just this test. The more questions you add, the less likely it is that you get a high score.
Boltneck
Rock Star
Silver Level
Fair comment Zach, I stand corrected. I do still believe however that my main point is valid, which was that the test is not flawed just because pwnagefactor54 got a high score with lucky guesses.
In any given random situation, a lucky break is possible. If he (or anyone else) selected random answers again, they would almost certainly get a different score. The fact that pwnagefactor54 got a high score was down to luck rather than any failing with the test. Of course, whether the test is a true reflection of one's poker playing ability is a different arguement.
In any given random situation, a lucky break is possible. If he (or anyone else) selected random answers again, they would almost certainly get a different score. The fact that pwnagefactor54 got a high score was down to luck rather than any failing with the test. Of course, whether the test is a true reflection of one's poker playing ability is a different arguement.
DetroitJimmy
Legend
Silver Level
I think the key thing about the Rounders question is "your whole bankroll is at stake" which is pretty heavy considering I don't ever have my whole BR on the line.
BTW,I called.If I was playing within my BR I would have pushed.
BTW,I called.If I was playing within my BR I would have pushed.
blankoblanco
plays poker on hard mode
Silver Level
i just tried wizzing through it as fast as possible without looking at the answers and got a 94. so it's possible that they make speed too large of a component, but if you got 138 via that method then you just happened to randomly guess a lot of them correct, it seems
jaketrevvor
Legend
Silver Level
But we're up against uber player, who, if he wanted to bluff at the pot would obviously not bluff a 3x pot overbet and if he was value betting a flush the same can be said. We therefore know that he has to have a full house of some kind, but as a wily pro we know that he will not call our shove with 98 (unless he figures we have seriously misplayed our hand) so the only time we're getting a call here is when we're beat (aces full) meaning we are getting know extra value from raising.
In fact, by the way we've played the hand I'm surprised that KGB made the call so quickly without even considering quad 9s. Dramatic effect I guess..
Chevren
Rock Star
Silver Level
I was just joking about being a perpetual loser I do alright at low limits when I stay inside my bankroll and away from booze lol.
I came across one or two questions where I thought what the "correct" answer was was different from what I answered but I guess I'm just not good enough to get away from some hands yet, I did answer what I would do not what I thought was the right play.
