Poker boom!

[David macdonald]

Hi There
I dont know if there will be a Poker Boom
But i tell you I only play at PS and ACR which are more reliable than other sites
Not that it doesnt frustrates me but i prefer to play where i trust a litlle bit more
Rgds

But they are not trusted because they openly admit it's a constant battle to rid cheats

 

[David macdonald]

never say never. i think the next poker boom since the mid-late 2000s will be when online poker is legalized across the US. when that happens it'll be like the 1st boom all over again with so many fish to catch. man those were good times poker wise

I agree Americans must be able to play again.

 

[David macdonald]

Poker sites really need to crack down on bots. Another boom is coming once the US legalizes online Poker in every state. But that boom will be short-lived if people hear about bots. By taking care of the bots now, the sites can essentially guarantee that the boom will last.

Do you think fulltilt and ultimate cheats caused the impact? Americans not being able to play now

 

[David macdonald]

I think that history is periodic and poker should revive, of course, for this some kind of event must happen, for example, the ability to track bots or huge competition among poker offline rooms or their accessibility for everyone.

online poker must have a system to stops cheats or it will die.

 

[David macdonald]

Buy definition a boom must have some triggering events that leads to a period of great, rapid economic growth.


1. For poker it was that poker got televised and the Moneymaker won the main event (an American with a great name win the biggest tournament while on TV - wow). Some even say the movie Rounders played a role prior to that.



2. Online sites/software maid it possible to play for very little (or a lot) fast and easy from your own home from your computer.



3. A lot of the western world got interested in the game via newspaper articles, advertising online and TV. It was cool and fun to play poker.




Sadly the chance of something above happening in the first place is very small.


Now you also have the problem with bots, AI and collusion online.




The good thing is that poker is still much bigger than is was before the boom.


And live poker will be good for many years to come.

Very good points I totally agree [emoji106]

 

[Nikolay Nakhaev]

Now our club is starting a series of excellent freerolls, so I think this is also a good boom for all club members and it will be very hot
Isn't that a poker boom?
the hype begins among the club players and this is great guys[emoji106][emoji106][emoji106][emoji122][emoji122][emoji122][emoji122][emoji122][emoji122][emoji122][emoji122]

 

[David macdonald]

I’ve said it for a while now and I still think it’s true, even if it hasn’t really built momentum at all just yet—I think the next great poker boom will be with a tremendous influx of women playing poker!

I realize that this boom is sadly, by most official accounts—such as the number of women in the WSOP is not happening just yet. I think it is going to take a couple of things at least, but they’re both things that I think are far more likely than not to happen in our lifetime:

1.) A “likable” woman making the final table and better still, winning the wsop main event—preferably in a year with high attendance or more media coverage than normal. Our female Chris Moneymaker if you will

2.) Poker companies-or at least a couple of major ones-recognizing the extreme long-term potential of women playing poker and choosing to cater to them (not above catering to men of course, just ALSO catering to women). Stars used to have an amazing women’s following that I was really sad to see them quietly cut years ago—I wrote an open letter to them that wound up getting quite a bit of hate from random people lol, but I still feel the way I did back when I wrote it.

I do believe the stars will align and this will all happen one day, even if not for a while!

Well live games are growing rapidly, there's plenty of good female players out there for sure. I am not sure there will be as many women as men playing the game though as I know alot of women despise gambling. I hope that women do cause the next poker boom though that would be cool.

 

[David macdonald]

Its difficult to predict the future, but overall poker does not seem to be doing that badly with this years WSOP main event nearly setting a new record. For online poker there are some challenges for sure, and I would put government regulations higher on the list than bots, colluders or AI software.

Poker sites are forced to pull out of market after market, and player pools are being segregated, even where online poker is legal. And of course this is not good for online poker. Its also not new and interesting, like it was 15 years ago, and with all the knowledge, material and software out there, games are never again going to become soft, like they were in the beginning.

But there are still recreational players coming on the tables to have some fun and donate their money to sharks, just not quite as many perhaps, as there was in the beginning

Yes poker players are stronger at the game now than ever.

 

[David macdonald]

I also think that you look at poker and its one off the easier ways to become a millionaire. If you can use your skills and trust your senses in the game you have a chance. I have just spent 5 hours watching the Pokerstars Carribean Adventure and Greenwood shoved all in bar a 5k chip lost the hand but with that 5k chip managed to ladder up quite a few more places. Chino made a massive fold on day 3 but still left him short stacked grinded onto the final table and just went into bulldozer mode and rolled over everyone.

Chip and a chair!

 

[David macdonald]

The record, or near record, registration level at this past WSOP was shocking. I don't know what that says about the state of poker. I can only speak about where I live, which is in Vancouver. Several casinos, including my local casino, have either dropped poker altogether or have shrunken their poker rooms. My local casino used to have a cheap morning tournament, which was designed to bring in traffic, and that went away a couple of years ago. Most of the casual players, those influenced by the boom on television, have gone away.

Interesting!

 

[David macdonald]

Are bots really threatening the online poker? I don't think so. Poker rooms can easily detect them.
Bots are available in open market. Anyone can buy. What poker room has to do is buy a sample of each bot that comes into market. Study them and incorporate a tool in their system which can detect them. I think all major poker rooms have their own qualified and specialized software engineers who can perform these jobs.
It should be a continuous job. Always looking to capture bots. If this happens then the players who use bots to make money will soon find that the money they invested in purchasing a bot is a wastage. Plus they might have to face law enforcing agencies and to pay compensations and refunds.
This will also in turn effect the open market of bots.

Yes but hackers are one step ahead, it's not so simple trust me.

 

[David macdonald]

I don't really know what to say. It is unfortunate that for many years American players cannot play online poker due to legislative problems. It's paradoxical in a way because live poker is thriving in the US we all know that Vegas is the world capital of live poker. I know that some players after "black friday" chose to move to Canada or Mexico but many were unable to play online because of the ban. I still hope they find a solution because it would revitalize the online poker game if americans will come back.

Do you think the Americans not playing online is helping increase the live tourneys?

 

[David macdonald]

Yes ofc. 3 steps are needed for new poker boom. Many players leave poker for different reasons, steps below can prevent players from leaving online poker and can make online gambling much more fair for the players.

1) Change rake to subscriptions, 10$ per month or 1$ per 24hrs spent in the poker room. Why? Because obviously there is no difference for a computer when it hosts a freeroll or 1.1MTT or $109MTT for 1K players. In all cases server will consume less than 1$ of energy and traffic. From any poker regs point of view it will be a good addition to his profit... Today poker rooms are robbing all players and biggest profit losses have players who play more games per day.

2) Change hidden algorythms and make them public. If it's 100% random and it's 100% legit, has no backend, no admins playing, no bots from pokerrooms side, then all code must be open source. Maybe blockchain can be used.

3) Ban HUDs and add streaming video from webcams to mid-high limits, so that players can recognise each other and see that they're not agains some AI. This way players will have to make notes and keep in mind info on their opponents. And also players will know for sure who their opponents are.

I agree with banning huds but how can they do it?

 

[martinf1971]

So realistically everyone is saying the game would be better without the software to help players play better. I think the software is there to keep players in the game rather than getting frustrated at making too many mistakes and leaving because they really haven't got a clue.

 

[Katie Dozier]

Well live games are growing rapidly, there's plenty of good female players out there for sure. I am not sure there will be as many women as men playing the game though as I know alot of women despise gambling. I hope that women do cause the next poker boom though that would be cool.

Women have been studied/shown as being more risk averse, that’s for sure. By nature I tend to match this description somewhat as well (don’t enjoy table game gambling unless it is for super low stakes for example, only things where I believe I have an edge) but the power to me is seeing it as different than common gambling—which is where the companies, with the ability to rebrand/change the optics on almost anything come in to play.

We don’t need as many women as men to play in order for it to be a boom, even half as many women as men playing would be astronomical for the game!

 

[FoxMS]

The number of poker players is constantly increasing, and every day this game is becoming more popular, so I am convinced that soon there will be a new poker boom.

 

[David macdonald]

Women have been studied/shown as being more risk averse, that’s for sure. By nature I tend to match this description somewhat as well (don’t enjoy table game gambling unless it is for super low stakes for example, only things where I believe I have an edge) but the power to me is seeing it as different than common gambling—which is where the companies, with the ability to rebrand/change the optics on almost anything come in to play.

We don’t need as many women as men to play in order for it to be a boom, even half as many women as men playing would be astronomical for the game!

Good point!

 

[Katie Dozier]

Good point!

Thanks!

 

[dlam]

The record, or near record, registration level at this past WSOP was shocking. I don't know what that says about the state of poker. I can only speak about where I live, which is in Vancouver. Several casinos, including my local casino, have either dropped poker altogether or have shrunken their poker rooms. My local casino used to have a cheap morning tournament, which was designed to bring in traffic, and that went away a couple of years ago. Most of the casual players, those influenced by the boom on television, have gone away.

I agree. It’s sad. I remember playing the River Rock about 15 years ago and there were so many tables and tournaments. Now it’s a shallow of itself the last time I played there
Now make days when I m in town I go to Parq , there a wait on the weekends but there are PLO which I like

poker games have changed when I played at the old Parq the Edgewater 15 years ago, it was mostly limit games with a few NL
Now it all NL HE
I think poker still remain popular with all the young players learning and playing online then coming to casino to play As long as poker remains televised There was a time when all I saw on sports channel was poker when pro sports league was on strike.

 

[DizzyDeb717]

meh. the less people play, the better the odds really
i can't see it growing at all unless they can find a way to gain people's trust again though..
i'm not sure i could ever totally trust online gaming tbh. that's why i stick to low stakes. it's more a time killer/entertainment for me anyway. cheap, and occasionally i get to make withdrawals and go shopping. win win lol